First Grow! Sealed/Closed Room, 2400 watts, CO2, Mini-Split AC, SmartPots, Dehum!

This late in flower you might throw in some Cal/mag, I started at 1/2 dose @ 2 weeks.

Bonzi Lighthouse said:

This late in flower you might throw in some Cal/mag, I started at 1/2 dose @ 2 weeks.

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Botanicare calmag + is given at 5mL / Gallon. Do you mean some kind of powder to add to the soil? I also have some dolomite lime in my soil mix that ive added. Isnt that enough calmag?

Nope that is what I ment, nothing really to do but wait for the flush.

So I'm bored at the house and all of a sudden the doorbell rings! Who could it be? Why its UPS with my brand new Aluminum 50 Lb. CO2 tank from AquariumPlants.com. The best price on the internet, $270 with free shipping (thats a fucking lot considering its a 50Lb. tank being shipped). Plus, the $270 is like 100-200 less than most garden sites (or local shops)...great deal! Gonna have to get it filled this week and replace the 20 Lb. tank with this 50 Lb. monster! Mwahaha..

Just felt like sharing..pics of my CO2 tank below..

UPDATE! Day 32 of Flowering, Day 92 total..

So today I have noticed much more "burn" looking spots and edges on several of the leaves on plants that weren't burnt initially...initially when I fed the first Bloombastic feeding, I also gave tiger bloom and my ppm was like 1300ppm. I think I burnt a couple of them, so I backed off and dropped the Tiger Bloom completely...

Now following the Week 5 of Fox Farm's Feed Schedule, this week I gave them a feeding on Sunday, a watering on Tuesday, and another feeding today....the feed I gave them sunday and today is the following per gallon of RO water:

5 mL Cal-Mag+
5 mL Silica
15 mL Fox Farm's Big Bloom (micro)
10 mL Hygrozyme
2 mL Bloombastic (recommended dosage until next week, week 6 goes to 4 mL)

550ppm / 6.4 pH

The problem is... is that they now seemed to be developing deficiencies from UNDER FEEDING. I have seen more "burn" looking crispy black spotted leaves at the tops of the buds on the large fan leaves, and the small bud leaves have yellow tips like nitrogen or cal-mag deficiency. I think they are underfed.. I raised my lights and its not hot to my hand at the canopy, so I doubt its heat stress, especially for it just to show up now, and never before....but I think its probably deficiencies from UNDER FEEDING THEM. 550 ppm the last two feedings is SUPER LOW...but since I cut out Tiger Bloom there isn't anything else to give...Big Bloom, the silica, the cal-mag, the hygrozme, and then the Bloombastic...and it only comes out to 550 ppm, 1.1 EC. Thats ridiculously low isn't it?

Am I starving them? Did I create these problems by under feeding now?

Should I just double up on the Bloombastic next feeding in two days go ahead and give the 4mL of Bloombastic now to help compensate? Or I thought maybe I should start giving small doses of Tiger Bloom with the plain water to help supplement food. Thoughts?

I'm confused...because it looks like some more burn, but it is now coming in on plants that weren't burnt initially, and I HIGHLY doubt a 550ppm feed solution should burn them again...WTF??

PLEASE HELP GUYS! I NEED LUMI AND LF TO GIVE ME SOME GUIDANCE!!! :>

Thanks,

X

Also, it turns out the 50 Lb. CO2 tank will pay for itself in a year or two as it costs me $28 to fill the 50Lb. tank and $17 to fill the 20 Lb. tank. Given that the 50 Lb. tank will last 2.5x as long, thats a pretty decent savings on gas with each fill up. I'm using about 20 Lbs of CO2 every 6 days right now, so thats a decent savings.. over the course of a year or two the 50 Lb. tank will pay for itself.

add a little grow big to your mix...need the n...awesome 'bout the tank-to about 650 ppm total....in other words use same mix and add grow big to up total ppms to 650-700=1.3-1.4 ec


Namaste'

Illumination said:

add a little grow big to your mix...need the n...awesome 'bout the tank

Namaste'

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What about the black spots? Getting black spots like small burn or edge cal-mag def's on top leaves....this is on plants that weren't burnt initially...thik the Grow Big will help offset that too?

Also the other leaves, look super dark green. I mean they are not light green at all.....like typical low Nitrogen plants.....it looks like plenty of nitrogen, I'm wondering if the spotting/burn marks/heat stress looking marks are some kind of deficiency? You think its only Nitrogen Lumi? Seems unlikely to me given I just fed a lot of Grow Big last week, but I suppose its possible....week 3 and 4 (last two weeks) require Grow Big and I fed it full strength 2 feedings per week on both of these last 2 weeks so I doubt its that...this week (week5) is the week Fox Farms quits using Grow Big for the rest of the cycle...any further thoughts?

I'll get pics up tomorrow to help show what I'm talking about..

X

cut back to 2 ml on the silica and 8 ml on the cal-mag

namaste

ps while it may appear that they need more they are actually blocking each other...so need to reduce the K or silica

Illumination said:

cut back to 2 ml on the silica and 8 ml on the cal-mag

namaste

ps while it may appear that they need more they are actually blocking each other...so need to reduce the K or silica

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I was thinking there might be some form of lockout...my meter was slightly off and I recalibrated it yesterday, found it off about 0.2 pH, so it could have been a bit low on the pH the last week and some lockout could have occured.

2 mL Silica, Check!

8 mL Cal-Mag, ??? You want me to increase the Cal-Mag from 5mL to 8 mL?

Just wanna be sure I dont fuck this up, as I'm gonna water tomorrow and will use plain RO water with the Silica and Cal-Mag and a dash of Grow Big..

I never have even read a feeding schedule ...read the plants...there was no n whatsoever in your last feed aside from the smidgen you get from cal mag and that's if everything breaks down right but I doubt that is occurring much..so try out the recommended mix...and pour 2 gallons straight ph'ed water through them before you feed 'em....and do not wait..right after the 2 gallon rinse feed 'em as suggested and let's see what happens..

Namaste'

include the bloombastic just dont up it yet

Ok ok lemme recap. Tomorrow gonna pour 2gal water (plain pH'd RO water nothing added) through them as a mini flush. Then immediately feedthem a gallon of :

2 mL silica
8 mL calmag
10 mL hygrozyme
20 mL big bloom
2 mL Bloombastic

..... And maybe like 3 mL grow big?

Did I get it?

xivex said:

Ok ok lemme recap. Tomorrow gonna pour 2gal water (plain pH'd RO water nothing added) through them as a mini flush. Then immediately feedthem a half gallon of :

2 mL silica
8 mL calmag
10 mL hygrozyme
3 mL big bloom
2 mL Bloombastic

..... And maybe like 3 mL grow big?

Did I get it?

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Yes ...once everything but gb is in use gb to get to 700 ppm...and at least 20 ml bb...if 3 gallon containers use 1 gallon of feed water each...if 5 use 2 gallon feed water...you will see why

Yeah sorry, meant to put "15 mL Big Bloom"..was thinking 3 teaspoons, 15 mL and wrote 3 mL... LOL. I'll edit the post. Got it, updated the post with your recommended 20 mL big bloom. Will give em 2 gal plain then 1 gal feed at the listed recommended ppm's..

OH and Lumi...Thanks man! Made my night...will do this tomorrow afternoon and try to get pics up tomorrow evening sometime late..

X

Update! Day 34 Flowering, Day 94 Total...

So today I did the flush....I followed Illumination's guidelines.....I setup my 2'x4' Botanicare Tray with Sump pump in it and put two plants into the tray at a time. Poured 2 gallons of plain RO water, pH'd to 6.4-6.5, into each plant container. I then followed that immediately with 1 gallon of feed solution of the following mix:

20 mL Fox Farm's Big Bloom (micro)
2 mL Bloombastic (bloom)
8 mL Cal-Mag+
2 mL Silica
10 mL Hygrozyme
3 mL Fox Farm's Grow Big (Grow)
850 ppm, 6.5 pH (EC x 0.5 TDS Scale)


I'm hoping this fixes any problems, plus its good to do a flush before upping the Bloombastic from 2 mL to 4 mL in week 6 (next week). So this should prepare me for that nicely.

Should I still supplement Myco in week 6 one last time? Or just leave it that my last time I supplemented was week 4.5?

The buds seem to be thickening up this week, as they look much fatter than the last time I saw them about 2-3 days ago..hope they continue to put on weight! Shooting for day 60'ish harvest, will watch and see!


Group Shot of most of the plants at once...




Misc LSD Plant shots....see the burn/cal-mag spotting on several of them?





The lone Jock Horror pic..still looking good!




THOUGHTS? COMMENTS? IDEAS?

THANKS RIU!

X

look at more like 70-75 days on the lsd...probably even longer on the jock horror


looking awesome

Namaste'

Illumination said:

look at more like 70-75 days on the lsd...probably even longer on the jock horror


looking awesome

Namaste'

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Thanks man! You think the Jock is gonna take longer? Maybe the pic is deceiving because in person to me it looks like its a week ahead of the LSDs...much more frosty and thicker bud. Supposed to be about a 60 day strain for the Jock and 60-65 for the LSD, but your right I've heard the LSDs run long, so I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it goes to 70-75 days, particularly the sativa phenos, they are def about 10 days behind the shorter indica phenos.

X

after the pistils recede and the calyxes swell then it is all trich color which decides for me

Namaste

Looking rock star! I had faith that you would do really well. I think your fine without adding more myco. They reproduce on their own and I'm sure they are loving that soil and hygrozyme. Nice to see a proper, non cheap skate grow.

Wait till the last 2 weeks, the swelling will blow your mind!