First grow, help is appreciated

hempstead

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Some pics. I didn't have much time but I snapped a few decent ones. No time to take em out from under the light, chinese food is on the way. heh I have nothing for the weekend and it is my b-day this weekend so I picked myself a flower. It is the smallest branch from the bottom. The northern light is taking well to the LST. I hope she stretches more because I wanna work it all the way around. heh
 

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wyteboi

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hempstead said:
I didn't pH my water for my plants. I know the soil buffers the pH. But if the soil pH is off then the pH is off. lol Unless every bag is mixed individually I don't think it can be very consistent. ([FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]Perfect for containers and ready to use right out of the bag. Ocean Forest® is pH adjusted at 6.3 to 6.8 to allow for optimum fertilizer uptake.) I am sure occasionally some is over 7 and some is under 6. MagiCal sort of works like adding lime to a soil but faster from what I have read.[/FONT]
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What is MagiCal ?
You can add lime to the soil and if their is a prob it will help to fix, but it will take along time.
Did you test the second runoff ? Even if you test the regular run off it should not go from 7 to 5 , but them meters are very finiky.
 
hempstead

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wyteboi said:
What is MagiCal ?
You can add lime to the soil and if their is a prob it will help to fix, but it will take along time.
Did you test the second runoff ? Even if you test the regular run off it should not go from 7 to 5 , but them meters are very finiky.
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Using the liquid drops to test pH.
I am still waiting on pH buffer solution. NEhydro sucks.
 
hempstead

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wyteboi said:
Are you talking about Calmag ?
http://www.planetnatural.com/site/cal-mag.html

yes you need the calibration fluid for the ph meter , they need calibrated alot , even the expensive ones go out quick and need calibrated alot.
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heh Close but no cigar MagiCal is by technaflora
http://www.technaflora.com/products.php?product=19

I dried out my birthday flower the old school way my buddy's hippy momma used to when we were kids. heh A paper plate on top of a lampshade. Gotta use old incandescent bulbs though cfls don't get warm enough. I cut it up into tiny nuggets and it dried enough to vape in about 2 hours. I just vaped half a disk and I am quite toasted. Vaping is definitely different than puffing. I don't get the anxiety with vaping like I do with smoking. I kinda like the anxiety though along with a paranoia. It is fun to giggle at. lol
 
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Thats always how i dry my "wet tester" ..foil on top of a light bulb! Congrats!

the magical is just calmag , its Ca an Mg .....its not needed when using tap water and/or food with your micronutrients in it.
if you use a RO filter then it might help , but that stuff is mainly if u have a ca or mg deficiancy. (wont help with ph, but i think your ph is fine or it wouldnt be green)
 
hempstead

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Well I know my 2 northern lights were becoming like the wet rat and they were very dry so it wasn't from overwatering. I flushed all 3 with RO then watered them with MagiCal and the little girls got nice little growth spurts. So I did something right. heh One other thing it could be if not pH is too much nitrogen. I got The Marijuana Garden Saver hand book and it shows a nice pic of a plant showing the same signs as mine and it says it is an OD of N.

All I know is my woman went out with friends and the baby is asleep and I am baked out of my tits watching Harold and Kumar on TBS. heh The vaporizer works better drawing off it like a pipe. A few hits had me choking. The balloon is ok but too much work and the hits don't seem as good. I grinded up a nice nugget and letting it dry out a bit and then I am gonna pack up the dugout. heh Vape is too much work.
 
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An od of N is alot more possible then a ph prob. That was my next suggestion. if you know your moisture is right , then its something to do with food, either too much or not enough. i would go 2 or 3 waterings with no food, if you are using ro water , then a drop or 2 of calmag wont hurt. Pics for deficiencys are very hard to use. Most of those pics are "control plants" that have had a perfect amount of everything but the one thing they are talking about. So yes , thats what that def looks like but add that to a OD of N and a short of K and you end up with leaves that match a zinc def. so they are just very hard to read.
If your food has micro-nutes in it then the extra shit is completly unessacary. Its just a matter of using the right ratio's of NPK and micro-nutes. I would have to know the npk of all your foods combined to help with that.
if you dont mind post all your foods/additives NPK and i'll try to figure it out.
 
hempstead

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An od of N is alot more possible then a ph prob. That was my next suggestion. if you know your moisture is right , then its something to do with food, either too much or not enough. i would go 2 or 3 waterings with no food, if you are using ro water , then a drop or 2 of calmag wont hurt. Pics for deficiencys are very hard to use. Most of those pics are "control plants" that have had a perfect amount of everything but the one thing they are talking about. So yes , thats what that def looks like but add that to a OD of N and a short of K and you end up with leaves that match a zinc def. so they are just very hard to read.
If your food has micro-nutes in it then the extra shit is completly unessacary. Its just a matter of using the right ratio's of NPK and micro-nutes. I would have to know the npk of all your foods combined to help with that.
if you dont mind post all your foods/additives NPK and i'll try to figure it out.
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I have only feed the thing once, like almost 2 months ago. I gave it a little magical the other day. Other than that, just plain RO water. Another thing is maybe the salt from my water softener isn't getting filtered out enough from the RO. I just changed my membrane the other day but I haven't got a chance to check the ppm because I am still waiting on my buffer solutions. heh I emailed NEhydro and they still haven't replied and it has been 48 hours. They won't get my business again.

I woke up singing this today. I don't know why. But Mary J rocks.
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Well if its been that long then maybe they need a good dose of food? There is no way to OD anything without feeding for that long.
I bet it is just your food ratio........its never the ph in soil, they can say it all they want,but show me!
the only thing i can think of that is a soil/soiless medium where the ph is gonna be off would be peat moss, that has a very low ph (around 4) All the other mixes out there are close to neutral if they are maintained properly. And once the plant gets put in it and the biology gets rollin , then the biologicals will do the rest.
If you mix the Earthjuice line then the ph will be around 4 , and i have never seen a problem from using that. You can add ph up if you want but it would do more harm then good.

Sorry for ramblin in your thread hemp. just wanna get people aware that mj plants are like any other plant.
 
hempstead

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wyteboi said:
Well if its been that long then maybe they need a good dose of food? There is no way to OD anything without feeding for that long.
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When I fed them is when it started happening. Short riders are very sensitive to nutes so maybe the soil has enough food for them already. I have read about some people complaining the Ocean Forest is too hot and they mix it with perlite. I did not mix mine with anything. I think it is too late to do anything now. The wet rat is almost done. I am just waiting for it to be ripe.
 
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hempstead said:
The wet rat is almost done. I am just waiting for it to be ripe.
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o well hell. mission accomplished bongsmilie

yea the FFOF is really good, rich soil , it is hot at first but any mj plant will use the food quick. The strains do vary , but they all need a proper npk ratio. Some more, some less , thats where trial and error comes in :bigjoint:
 
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at that point , the soil was probably too hot to add more food. :weed:
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Do you think I should feed em? Maybe I will to see what happens heh. My ag yield will be enough to last til my my northern lights are done so I am not scared to lose it. These were all test runs really but it looks like they are gonna pay off.
 
hempstead

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KittyCat said:
Why are we talking about soil in a Hydroponics / Aeroponics forum in a Aerogardeners sub-forum?

I'm a newbie following a stream of a few posts and then I read something about soil. No wonder I have problems growing a weed! :grin:
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The answer is there for you go back and read the 30 something pages and stop bothering us. heh Just kidding. I have a few plants going. I started with an AG which is almost done but also have a few going in soil.
 
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