Fire in the hole! 15 Timewreck super soil pheno hunt

ReefBongwell

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Still no luck on the double GA... guess i'll plant'em but not sure the point :)

Still waiting for new CCMs to come up... buried'em a bit deeper so not really worried.

Sprouts doing great and visibly growing every day.... still working on next leafset. Watered tonight probably the first time since being planted they had a real, thorough watering. Hoping for a good growth spurt tomorrow, but just wishing they'd grow faster in general :)

The BMF I tried to save definitely isn't making it, so officially 0 BMF sprouts. The one caliband still looks like it might make it, but still iffy.
 
Good luck with your pheno hunt. I did a 5 pack of timewreck ang got 2 female 3 males. The tw I have in flower right now is at 65 days and looks very frosty and chunky but no smell. When I say no smell I mean nooooo smell at all.not sure what the deal is
 

ReefBongwell

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i'm guessing if you brought a non-smoker to your grow room they'd say it smelled :) same way ace of spades smells to me like nothing other than black cherry soda... i'm sure if someone else who didn't smoke smelled they would smell more than that :) but growing indoors in a non legal state i'll take no smell over funky smell any day, so no TW smell sounds good to me. Others have said the smell is very low and what there is is an earthey, limey smell. Fine with that too.
 

ReefBongwell

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Got one of the new CCMs up above soil... waiting on the rest. Everyone's doing lovely first leaves 3-4x petiole size for most now (still some runts) and the little first multi fingered buds have turned into tiny forming leaves now so the next set is coming... I keep thing they're doing so slow but this is really the 5th day for them... not sure why it seems so long...

i'm so sick... already thinking of how i could grow'em so much bigger and better with more light and some more co2...
 

ReefBongwell

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I'm using this pic cuz I'm too lazy to take my own pic... just got these today... just in time to pop'em for this round... don't know where i'll get light for'em... but we'll work that out later...

 

ReefBongwell

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No pics yet I took'em out to water earlier they're doing good first leaves getting bigger and 2nd leaves about as big as petioles for most... they're just chuggin' along the ones in the slightly larger airpots are definitely ahead of the ones in the solo cups... may have to get more of those for starters - wish i had more for the chernobyl x space jill to go into but it'll be fine :)
 

whitey78

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I dont wanna tell you your method of germing is no good because if it works for you.....it works for you... But something I learned in my short time doing this, the one thing I've learned to do well is get seeds to sprout... I suck at most everything else but I got good at this.... You are soaking your beans way to long bro.... I know everyone says you need a taproot showing or the seed needs to start to split etc.... not true... The key to beans popping is the moisture.... once the seeds start to sink, which can be done in as little as 4-8 hours or less by giving them a stir once in a while, I use bottled spring water for the soaking part also.... Once you see the seed sink, that means its absorbed as much moisture as its going to.... Yes it hasnt split, and you arent seeing a taproot, 100% correct... but you dont need to see that, as far as I know roots dont like light and go the opposite way so why ever expose them to it is my take.... anyhow... onward...

Once you get them to sink, take a solo cup or whatever your gonna use to germ in, fill with your medium, I have had the best success with Fox farms light warrior, I only use it for germing seeds... anyhow soak the medium with aerated tap or whatever you use, dig in 1/4 to 3/8ths of an inch or so right in the middle, drop your soaked seed in with a tweezers and cover it back up.... After that I'll take a spray bottle with the aerated tap water and wet the top of the cup once more.... Put it under a CFL or the like and walk away...... within 2-5 days you'll have sprouts...

Theres even more to it if you wanna get real crazy as to which way you should point the seed as the tap root is going to come out one side or the other, if you look at the seeds you'll see where it detached from the plant it grew from, I am not 100% which end the taproot comes out of, but there is an article here somewhere that describes this in detail, I think sub wrote it so it may be in the stickies but I dont go that far, I just drop the seed in and let it do its thing... I dont put baggies on them, although its not a bad idea if you have a low humidity problem but my opinion on why you didnt get sprouts is because they were over saturated to begin with, then with the bag over them keeping the humidity at 100% they just kinda melted... Humidity should be high but not 100%....Also, these things need wet and dry cycles. If and when you try this method, you'll notice the sprouts actually pop out of the soil once it starts to dry a little.... I actually put a small fan in the area, not directly on the cups but in the general area just to keep some air moving...

Moisture is good... too much or too little is bad but the middle is a very broad spectrum and isnt all that important for sprouting seeds... having the humidity high in the 80-100% range is more important for clones, not so much for seedlings... I'd say 40-70% RH is fine... closer to 50-60%RH is what I'd go for..... but seeds are easy, you almost have to try and make them not germinate.... Since I started doing it this way I've never not had a seed sprout, I've had them push themselves out of the soil completely and die because I buried the seed on top of a big chunk of perlite, but they always sprout....

Give it a try....... Again, I'm not saying your method or anyone elses is wrong but the paper towel method is way to dangerous for me, and soaking them for more than the amount of time it takes them to sink is over saturating them, sub actually recommends not even soaking them.... but hes recommending that with his seeds, and you are correct TGA beans have a high germ rate but as long as a seed is viable it should pop if you follow my instructions....

I'm gonna be popping some beans in the very near future myself which I'll be documenting the grow so I'll show it in as real time as I can.... They will be TGA beans but I'll do a couple freebies I have just to show that it'll work with anything but try it next time, you wont regret it and most of all its easy and requires basically no intervention once you put it in the dirt which is a good thing, touching them and dealing with the taproot etc.. is just a way to screw them up in my opinion, the less human intervention the better, they didnt make it millions/billions of years because we jumped in to help.....
 

acclaym

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Reef, good luck with your grow. I'm very interested to see how this goes as I will be running TW in a few weeks myself.

Stay up
 

ReefBongwell

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Here they are... they may be a bit stunted... i checked the calibration on my pen a few days ago and it was wayyyyy off.... so they were getting the wrong ph water and i started to see a little yellow coming into the leaves... fixed the ph and they've been getting better and growing better. No chernobyl x space jill sprouts yet. Only 2 CCMs remaining haven't germed. One is in a dome just came up not sure if that one'll make it.

Chocolate Chunkey Monkey
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TimeWrecks
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ReefBongwell

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Those are 0.3 gallon airpots :) smallest size you can get

Pretty happy so far with the selection, always wishing for faster growth. Some good variety between hybrids to more indica leaning - not a lot of super sativa lookers so far... but then again that sometimes changes later in veg :) I just hope those chernobyl x space jill start sprouting and all make it.
 

ReefBongwell

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Yeeha! The first Chernobyl x Space Jill got above soil and started spreading it's wings today. It appears planting them 1/2"+ instead of 1/4" may have helped it was completely shell free and already spreading leaves... now to just hope all the rest of them come up.

What I think is going to be the last CCM had spread it's leaves nicely today and i took the dome off. There are still 2 CCMs unsprouted and don't believe those are going anywhere I dug through them last night and there were no sprouts.
 

ReefBongwell

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Nice... the lead growers are really taking off now growin' new leafsets, first full leafsets filling out... first time so far this grow that i've been happy with the growth rate... i'm keeping an eye on whether they are going to start needing a small nute dose soon... i didn't add anything to this soil base mix like i usually do (EWC) so they won't have that to back up on... 3 of the chernojill up and looking good, another came up with shell and i just removed the shell, so should have 4 chernojills... still waiting on the rest hopefully more tomorrow.
 

ReefBongwell

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4 ChernoJills up and going strong, one up and spreading leaves w/ dome on, one helped the shell off but it's working on getting out of the inner seed coating still... will help it later if it can't get out on its own.... so 6/10 ChernoJills look to be good so far... other 4 still no sign. I may start getting antsy tonight on the ones that haven't come up and start poking around looking for'em to see if they didn't germ or are just having a hard time.

As for the last 2 CCMs, I dug around in them this morning again to see what i could find... nothing in one... small sprout with a 1/4" curled tap in the other... recovered that one and remoistened the soil will see if it comes up but I think it's a dud, but I got way more than I really shoulda sprouted at this point anyway, so I'm not sweating any non-germers at this point other than I want a good selection from those ChernoJills.

The first sprouts are really taking off... way bigger than that pic from just a couple days ago putting out new leafsets, doing really good now. Waiting for all the other little sprouts to follow suit... i'll probably give'm a micro dose of 1-1-1 nutes next watering... at least the older, multi leafset ones.
 

Theowl

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Hey reef, sounds like its doing well over there!

Those CCM's are gonna blow up in about another week or so..
Mine are stout, stanky, and FAT ASS LEAVES!! Widest in the crew...
And I bet the Timewrecks do too ! (Blow up, that is..)

sorry I've been mia, this kid is about to be here! :D :)
 

ReefBongwell

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holy cow it's that time eh?? i kinda forgot about that! keep us up to date on how it's goin' text me.

I'm surprised yeah the CCM leaves are pretty fat I thought this was a sativa dom strain??

The timewrecks are already starting to take off they'll get their first small dose of nutes tomorrow for the multi leafset ones or any with light petioles. I'm gonna start transplanting the bigger ones into full size pots and giving them fractional nutes.

Looks like I'm set for the lineup for this batch... I've dug around in the remaining non-sprouts and I don't think anything is coming up, though I'm gonna leave'em for a week or so just in case. I found either nothing or unsprouted seeds in the remaining 4 chernojills. Should've waited longer but whatcha gonna do it's done. Hopefully 6 will get me at least one wicked female if not more.

15 Timewrecks
7 Chocolate Chunkey Monkeys (there could be another or two of these i'm going from memory)
6 ChernoJills (chernobyl x spacejill)

With that many we're looking at 20 females give or take one or two.
 

ReefBongwell

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Just transplanted the 15 timewrecks into their final homes while sitting on the back porch smoking and watching the Master... 12 into 1.5 gallon airpots and I took a bet on the 3 squattest, healthiest timewrecks being female and put them in 3.4 gallon airpots with a shitload of super soil... if 2/3 end up female i'll be happy with the decision... those pots are capable of yielding over 4oz with a well grown plant in super soil, so i got high hopes for those 3 especially if 2 or 3 end up female... shit if i could get 4oz each that'd be 12oz just for the 3 not even counting the rest... that'd be sweeeeeet. We'll see though, I only have 4 weeks til these girls gotta go to flower and they are all a little behind. 2 or 3 are pretty stunted and have barely regreened and mostly yellow... the rest are all light - med green and getting greener and will definitely thrive... i calibrated the pen today just to be on the safe side but it was still good. Meant to transplant the 15 smaller ones today but didn't get the chance to... will probably transplant them tomorrow night.

I moved the light up yesterday about 8-10"... i think the more stunted ones may also be light sensitive. They seem to be responding everyone's getting better or thriving... and the newer sprouts (chernojills) haven't had any issue.

I decided today that this is the last time I'll sprout into 16oz solo cups or small pots. There is a crazy difference between the airpots and the cups in the root systems. Not sure what to think of this new soil... I think it just needs more EWC & perlite added in... it gets a little too moist - the solos the root systems do not look that healthy... but the airpots the root systems look fantastic... so not sure if i can really blame the soil too much.

Oh there is one chernojill i don't think is gonna make it i haven't checked on it today but it started out looking healthy but seems like I maybe took the dome off too early (even though it already had green petioles and first leaf buds) it basically stopped growing after that at least last I checked... maybe i'll find a nice suprrise tonight... we'll see... but may only have 5 chernojill's.... there are 10 CCMs though (that count above is wrong). So there are 30 plants if that chernojill doesn't survive... 2 timewrecks on the borderline of not making it though... i'm adding a note to the ones that are most and least affected by the pH/light issue for final selection...

Pics coming, though there is not much to see... the older timewrecks are just nice small seedlings just starting to work on the transition from seedling to veg stage ranging down to new seedlings that only have one true leafset...
 
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