Fems own Regs - the best out of 200 female genotypes

Thin mint came from herm seeds right?
Like most of the clone only..

I have found a keeper or 3 in every pack I have popped (over 50 packs)at 12 seeds a pack,from 1 breeder..all reg seeds..
I care less about turn around,I'm not in a rush,to grow nugs..
I put 25 regular seeds down not 2 long ago,out of them I got 15 females...and I know for a fact each one will be a "keeper" in one way or another. ..

genuity said:

Thin mint came from herm seeds right?
Like most of the clone only..

I have found a keeper or 3 in every pack I have popped (over 50 packs)at 12 seeds a pack,from 1 breeder..all reg seeds..
I care less about turn around,I'm not in a rush,to grow nugs..
I put 25 regular seeds down not 2 long ago,out of them I got 15 females...and I know for a fact each one will be a "keeper" in one way or another. ..

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Funny thing is I don't know and I'm going to make some fem seeds with it for backup lol.

genuity said:

Thin mint came from herm seeds right?
Like most of the clone only..

I have found a keeper or 3 in every pack I have popped (over 50 packs)at 12 seeds a pack,from 1 breeder..all reg seeds..
I care less about turn around,I'm not in a rush,to grow nugs..
I put 25 regular seeds down not 2 long ago,out of them I got 15 females...and I know for a fact each one will be a "keeper" in one way or another. ..

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If one of them was objectively more desirable than the other siblings, wouldnt that be the only keeper?

SupraSPL said:

If one of them was objectively more desirable than the other siblings, wouldnt that be the only keeper?

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Yup...

I'm only looking for 2 real keepers out b of that bunch,something I can run for a few yrs..
But the banana puff is staying for sure,both phenos..which I'm counting as one keeper. .lol

genuity said:

Thin mint came from herm seeds right?
Like most of the clone only..

I have found a keeper or 3 in every pack I have popped (over 50 packs)at 12 seeds a pack,from 1 breeder..all reg seeds..
I care less about turn around,I'm not in a rush,to grow nugs..
I put 25 regular seeds down not 2 long ago,out of them I got 15 females...and I know for a fact each one will be a "keeper" in one way or another. ..

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That's because you are the biggest fanboy of that company I have ever seen, those packs don't all contain keepers you just think they do because you are blinded by your love for the company. I would advise taking what this guy says with a grain of salt.

2ANONYMOUS

the banana story is good for people to know..

but has nothing to do with cannabis selfing

and as far as hermi's... selfing removes the male...

its handy and awesome plants can come from it..

and as far as using "chemicals" to reverse..being a negative..not really ..its a tool

and is basically the on ly way to get bench mark clones to people who do not have the clones

because of geography and/or hoarding

just like cannabis ..and organic vs mineral salts..imho organically cannabis tastes like what it

was grown in..

mineral salts will add extraneous taste if used in too high ppm's..other wise i find it has less

invasive extraneous taste than most organic


you type some good stuff

Yodaweed said:

That's because you are the biggest fanboy of that company I have ever seen, those packs don't all contain keepers you just think they do because you are blinded by your love for the company. I would advise taking what this guy says with a grain of salt.

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Hahahaha....lol.

So sad,learn to grow..

I always look at all angles and possibilities, when i talked to DJ couple years ago, i asked him why he never played with fem seeds, His answer was with so many outstanding regular seeds outs there, i have so much better work to do .. Today seems like a learning day so schooling begins hope you enjoy
One of the biggest things people get mislead into is
True hermaphroditism is relatively uncommon in cannabis. A true hermaphrodite is a plant that bears both staminate and pistillate parts on the same flower. The term "monoecious" refers to plants that bear male and female flowers on the same plant, but in different locations. Being that cannabis is a diocious plant, monoecious plants are much more common than true hermaphroditic plants are.
Hermaphroditism is very common in nature, but usually associated with true-flowering plants... the majority of plants and most flowering annuals/perennials in your yard are hermaphrodites, aka self-pollinating flowers. Hermaphroditism is considered 'perfect' flowers and Cannabis has what is considered 'imperfect' flowers.

Understanding epigenetics can be challenging. Epigenetics is the study of cellular and physiological trait variations and functionally relevant changes made to the genome NOT caused by changes to the DNA sequence. Genetics are based on changes made to the genotype, however, changes in gene expression or cellular phenotype of epigenetics have totally different causes. These epigenetic changes may last one generation or they may be multi-generational, even though they do not involve changing the underlying DNA sequences... it is non-genetic factors that cause these genes to express themselves differently.

With that said i am presently working on is environmental effects on one of my male plants ,, running temps hotter and more intense lighting creating more sativa coming out of the plant same thing i noticed when running temps cooler same strain bringing out the more indica dominating traits
The temps i have been working with is 90 degrees for Sativa's and 16 - 18 degrees for indica's
What my goal is next is to breed it in both environments 2 different rooms and watch the off springs traits
I am guessing that with environment change causing the sativa to show more dominence the off spring seedlings from get go will be sativa leaning same rule apples to the indica test side the seedling will show indica traits right off the bat
my goal is to see there off spring ??? seedlings to see if i am right if so then i am going to try to turn the sativa leaning to indica and indica to sativa reverse it back by room temps and light intensity
proving dormant traits can be woken up and i am seeing it so far
PS i stressed it so bad by temps . lights etc that this new strain is of breeding quality 3rd year working same strain

There is also a misconception, When talking elite plant this can vary widely and can be opinionated , to say the least resin output, structure, yield , ????
A Elite plant must be able to create off spring better then her self , But for a lot of people a Elite is simply better smoke then anything else in my area. how do we know that Feminized plant is a elite We don't
I am not saying that is a wrong view point, I just think that ultimately, once you have 40 Elite moms in a room and you still have 5 or 6 that outshine the others ?? well, are the other 35 Still Elite ,,, Perhaps NOT
Think of it as much as the same way as professional sports , and athletes To get the the NBA- you are literally the top 1 percent of ALL college players , You are you the top .03 percent of all High school players. That by all means makes you a Elite player, However , even in the NBA you still have those that Rise above the rest and become superstars , Those are truly Elite among the Elite
Like Tom Hill and i agree 100 percent the true outliers are found in F2 populations not F1 the genetic recombination in a F2 population being so much greater and more diverse, You have a much higher chance of finding something unique or Elite as you call it
The whole Elite TAG - out of the 100's that carry it i have found 15 - 20 that truly deserve it and many of those plants are not widely recognized by the community at large

@2ANONYMOUS Sounds like an interesting science project you have going on. Nice.

Id be pissed if all them seedlings would be male. Im glad i have 2 fem ghost train haze and one bubba kush there. I usuall grow more than 20 plants at the same time, and usually half of those would be male. I only keep those that stand out and make a few seeds. But i wouldnt really need 10 males

REALSTYLES said:

Well why doe cannabis hermie in the wild and when a female plant hermies it has only female genetics those producing only female plants. Here's a video you should watch

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fast forwarding to 9:30 will save any future readers about nine minutes and 30 seconds of a guy that can't pronounce "s"

borbor said:

fast forwarding to 9:30 will save any future readers about nine minutes and 30 seconds of a guy that can't pronounce "s"

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lol i tend to stay away from people that slur and have really little biology backgrounds

here is a question for him first year biology question

Question 1 (28 Points). Your lab is studying a novel thermophilic eukaryote called S. mokin that has an optimum growth temperature of 75°C. Surprisingly, it has a circular genome and your student has decided to identify its origin(s) of replication. Another student has found that some S. mokin cells contain a 4 kb plasmid that confers resistance to Chromium. Based on this finding, your student wants to use a plasmid rescue assay to identify the genomic origin in S. mokin. As a first step, they use 2D gel analysis to locate the origin of replication in the plasmid and obtain the following results. Bam HI Probe 1 Probe 2 4000/0 1000 2000 3000 Sal I Probe 3 Sma I Xho I Eco R1 Hind III Eco RI and Sma I/Probe 1 Bam HI and Sma I/Probe 2 Increasing Shape Increasing Size Increasing Size Increasing Shape Increasing Size Increasing Shape Increasing Size Increasing Shape Hind III and Sal I/Probe 3 Eco RI and Bam HI /Probe 3 1A (6 Points). Based on their data, what two enzymes do you suggest that your student use to cut the plasmid and genomic DNA for the plasmid rescue assay? Explain your reasoning.

75 c is hot as balls

edit- upon further testing, way hotter than balls
oh, that would mean it's thermophillic, nevermind

Bad ass list on page one. Youve done some amazing work there. Plus rep. Its no surprise to see the breeders in there that are there. I was thinking about cc alien og for a while but theres already someone around me who runs it. I just started cali connection grape kush and i noticed youve run it but it didnt make the keeper list. Was it gawd awful or decent? Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

GroErr said:

People, he didn't exclude any specific breeders, he simply posted a comprehensive list of strains by seed type based on what he's grown out over a few years. I've never seen such a comprehensive list of strains someone has grown first-hand, tracked by seed type and breeder. That's first hand experience over a few years posted right there, invaluable information/reference. idk that I agree with the findings (fem vs. reg) as technically it's not a big enough sample, but damn, that's a nice top ten list! Just saved me a few months if I can fit in a few new strains to try next year, thanks again @SupraSPL

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I didnt read the whole thread but it sounds like theres haters as usual. Yelling about science again? Probably. I always laugh at those guys, like the person doing the experimenting isnt doing a good enough job and they are wrong. Peanut gallery strikes again hollering from the side line with no 200 strain test of their own. Babies.

2ANONYMOUS said:

lol i tend to stay away from people that slur and have really little biology backgrounds here is a question for him first year biology question

Question 1 (28 Points). Your lab is studying a novel thermophilic eukaryote called S. mokin that has an optimum growth temperature of 75°C. Surprisingly, it has a circular genome and your student has decided to identify its origin(s) of replication. Another student has found that some S. mokin cells contain a 4 kb plasmid that confers resistance to Chromium. Based on this finding, your student wants to use a plasmid rescue assay to identify the genomic origin in S. mokin. As a first step, they use 2D gel analysis to locate the origin of replication in the plasmid and obtain the following results. Bam HI Probe 1 Probe 2 4000/0 1000 2000 3000 Sal I Probe 3 Sma I Xho I Eco R1 Hind III Eco RI and Sma I/Probe 1 Bam HI and Sma I/Probe 2 Increasing Shape Increasing Size Increasing Size Increasing Shape Increasing Size Increasing Shape Increasing Size Increasing Shape Hind III and Sal I/Probe 3 Eco RI and Bam HI /Probe 3 1A (6 Points). Based on their data, what two enzymes do you suggest that your student use to cut the plasmid and genomic DNA for the plasmid rescue assay? Explain your reasoning.

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I don't mind considering growing advice from a person that has zero academic burden. When we see problems like this come up in agriculture, it might be a clue that we are barking up the wrong tree. In other words, practical experience and ability to reason is much more valuable than hyper specific knowledge. Some of the best ways to grow cannabis:

-throw a piece of meat in a maggoty bin for 6 months
-bubble some shit/rotten fish tea
-dig muck and rotted leaves from the forest floor

These crude methods will put trillions of microbes to work and grow mind blowing cannabis, regardless of whether you know their names. In many cases academia can actually get in the way of progress, prosperity and health. Consider the state of finance, economics and health. Ben Bernanke had a 1590 SAT score and works in the interest of the banksters. The CDC recommends 69 doses of vaccine injected into children by the age of 18. The deadly food pyramid we were all taught...you get the idea.

I can only imagine what the world would be like if we had our best minds learning from people like this, rather than learning pharmacology, symptom based medical treatment, tax law and fraudulent accounting tricks for Enron/Goldman etc .


Wow, major tangent I guess you hit a sore spot @2ANONYMOUS , I like to encourage people not to get hung up on minutia, unless it truly empowers them or they are called to specialize. But every person I have ever met is smart enough to understand the really important concepts in life, which tend to be very simple when they are explained by someone who truly understands it.

Alienwidow said:

Bad ass list on page one. Youve done some amazing work there. Plus rep. Its no surprise to see the breeders in there that are there. I was thinking about cc alien og for a while but theres already someone around me who runs it. I just started cali connection grape kush and i noticed youve run it but it didnt make the keeper list. Was it gawd awful or decent? Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

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Thank man, I only ran a single fem bean of the CC - Grape Kush. It yielded great (over 100g from a 5 gal bucket of ROLS) and got my wife very high which is saying a lot for its potency. I will definitely run it again before letting it go but the reason I did not list it as a keeper the stank was not strong enough and not frosty enough compared to the top 20. I wouldn't judge the variety a flop unless I ran at least a pack of fems without finding something interesting though.

the "scientist" is doing some interesting tests...

Supra, your post about academia was SO well said..