feminized seeds

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
How many of those who mistrust feminized seed have a good stock of good strains of regular seeds stockpiled and properly stored? If you think fems are a conspiracy to control pot but you don't have your stash of regular seeds (hopefully some landraces tucked in with them all) then all your protests are like so much fart gas.
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
How many of those who mistrust feminized seed have a good stock of good strains of regular seeds stockpiled and properly stored? If you think fems are a conspiracy to control pot but you don't have your stash of regular seeds (hopefully some landraces tucked in with them all) then all your protests are like so much fart gas.
What is the proper storage?
I am gonna guess a glass jar in the freezer, or is there more to it?
 

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
Man I will be 64. Smoking since 1963, growing since 1964. I planted some seeds in 1985 I found in an old film can from 1971 in my toolbox. That tool box was in shops that froze, had every sort of volatile parts cleaners available, heat in summer in AZ/NM/TX.

All but 3 sprouted, all those that sprouted lived. Damned good Mexican weed too. Seeds are extremely hardy but not indestructible.
 

bmeat

New Member
they cant be bred if theyre done right. there is no males or male pollen left in the population if done correctly.

this is the same thing monsanto was trying to do with its seeds. EXACTLY the same concept. and only they wanted to spray their females to make more seeds, and not let everyone else know how to do it. even if they knew, why the hell would farmers want to go through all these extra steps?

lucky for us, they stopped monsanto from doing it. we had enough of their b.s. unfortunately, since cannabis and its breeding is not regulated, termniator tech has been accepted in the form of feminized genes.

"Potential products[edit] Terminator seeds

Main article: Genetic use restriction technology
Genetic use restriction technology, colloquially known as "terminator technology", produces plants that have sterile seeds. If put into use, it would prevent the spread of those seeds into the wild. It also would prevent farmers from planting seeds they harvest, requiring them to repurchase seed for every planting, although they also need to do this for hybrid seeds, because second-generation seeds are inferior, and in cases of patented transgenic seeds, where patent-holders like Monsanto enter into contracts with farmers who agree not to plant harvested seeds as a condition of purchase.
Terminator technology has been developed by governmental labs, university researchers, and companies, sometimes in collaboration and sometimes independently.[SUP][94][/SUP][SUP][95][/SUP][SUP][96][/SUP] The technology has never been known to have been used commercially.[SUP][97][/SUP][SUP][98][/SUP] Rumors that Monsanto and other companies intended to introduce terminator technology have caused protests, for example in India.[SUP][99][/SUP][SUP][100][/SUP]
In 1999, Monsanto pledged not to commercialize terminator technology, and has kept that pledge on its website to the present day.[SUP][97][/SUP][SUP][101][/SUP] The Delta and Pine Land Company intended to commercialize the technology,[SUP][96][/SUP] but D&PL was acquired by Monsanto in 2007.[SUP][102][/SUP]
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navyfighter04

Active Member
they cant be bred if theyre done right. there is no males or male pollen left in the population if done correctly.

this is the same thing monsanto was trying to do with its seeds. EXACTLY the same concept. and only they wanted to spray their females to make more seeds, and not let everyone else know how to do it. even if they knew, why the hell would farmers want to go through all these extra steps?

lucky for us, they stopped monsanto from doing it. we had enough of their b.s. unfortunately, since cannabis and its breeding is not regulated, termniator tech has been accepted in the form of feminized genes.

"Potential products[edit] Terminator seeds

Main article: Genetic use restriction technology
Genetic use restriction technology, colloquially known as "terminator technology", produces plants that have sterile seeds. If put into use, it would prevent the spread of those seeds into the wild. It also would prevent farmers from planting seeds they harvest, requiring them to repurchase seed for every planting, although they also need to do this for hybrid seeds, because second-generation seeds are inferior, and in cases of patented transgenic seeds, where patent-holders like Monsanto enter into contracts with farmers who agree not to plant harvested seeds as a condition of purchase.
Terminator technology has been developed by governmental labs, university researchers, and companies, sometimes in collaboration and sometimes independently.[SUP][94][/SUP][SUP][95][/SUP][SUP][96][/SUP] The technology has never been known to have been used commercially.[SUP][97][/SUP][SUP][98][/SUP] Rumors that Monsanto and other companies intended to introduce terminator technology have caused protests, for example in India.[SUP][99][/SUP][SUP][100][/SUP]
In 1999, Monsanto pledged not to commercialize terminator technology, and has kept that pledge on its website to the present day.[SUP][97][/SUP][SUP][101][/SUP] The Delta and Pine Land Company intended to commercialize the technology,[SUP][96][/SUP] but D&PL was acquired by Monsanto in 2007.[SUP][102][/SUP]
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In other news...eating shit will make you stronger...See i can type a bunch of bs too..... I meant copy and paste.
 

bmeat

New Member
How many of those who mistrust feminized seed have a good stock of good strains of regular seeds stockpiled and properly stored? If you think fems are a conspiracy to control pot but you don't have your stash of regular seeds (hopefully some landraces tucked in with them all) then all your protests are like so much fart gas.
not a conspiracy, i dont believe in them, just humans not thinking about the damage that things will cause for future generations.

i alreay have my seed stock. we bred my landrace hindu kush female with my friends male landrace jamaican sativa :)

i will save these seeds, and when i move out i will breed them with a haze plant.

not shut down supertramp, but rather sold out to a company with higher morals..we can only hope. and navyfighter, its not b.s. youre just too stupid to understand.
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Alexander Supertramp

Well-Known Member
What is the proper storage?
I am gonna guess a glass jar in the freezer, or is there more to it?
Yep in a jar, add some dry rice and pop in the fridge. When you need beans allow the jar to reach room temp before opening to reduce the chance of condensation in the jar. As soon as you have removed the beans you want put the lid back on and pop them back in the fridge.
 

Alexander Supertramp

Well-Known Member
bmeat you read somewhere how hippies were down on Monsanto so you make a bunch of shit up to try and be 'cool'. Sorry little buddy wearing the helmet it aint working.
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
they cant be bred if theyre done right.
You are a liar. What are you basing your lies on?

there is no males or male pollen left in the population if done correctly.
You are a liar. What are you basing your lies on?

this is the same thing monsanto was trying to do with its seeds. EXACTLY the same concept.

Prove it. It should be easy to do. Provide a link.

and only they wanted to spray their females to make more seeds, and not let everyone else know how to do it.
monsanto? No, you are wrong. You are talking about something you do not understand and trying to apply it to cannabis. It is moronic.


even if they knew, why the hell would farmers want to go through all these extra steps?
You have no idea what you are talking about.


lucky for us, they stopped monsanto from doing it.
Who is they? Could you provide a link?



we had enough of their b.s. unfortunately, since cannabis and its breeding is not regulated, termniator tech has been accepted in the form of feminized genes.
Quit lying and post something to back up your bullshit.


"Potential products[edit] Terminator seeds

Main article: Genetic use restriction technology
Genetic use restriction technology, colloquially known as "terminator technology", produces plants that have sterile seeds.
That is completely different and has nothing to do with cannabis. Feminized cannabis seeds can be used for breeding, no problem. Terminator seeds have to do with corn.


If put into use, it would prevent the spread of those seeds into the wild. It also would prevent farmers from planting seeds they harvest, requiring them to repurchase seed for every planting, although they also need to do this for hybrid seeds, because second-generation seeds are inferior, and in cases of patented transgenic seeds, where patent-holders like Monsanto enter into contracts with farmers who agree not to plant harvested seeds as a condition of purchase.
Terminator technology has been developed by governmental labs, university researchers, and companies, sometimes in collaboration and sometimes independently.[SUP][94][/SUP][SUP][95][/SUP][SUP][96][/SUP] The technology has never been known to have been used commercially.[SUP][97][/SUP][SUP][98][/SUP] Rumors that Monsanto and other companies intended to introduce terminator technology have caused protests, for example in India.[SUP][99][/SUP][SUP][100][/SUP]
In 1999, Monsanto pledged not to commercialize terminator technology, and has kept that pledge on its website to the present day.[SUP][97][/SUP][SUP][101][/SUP] The Delta and Pine Land Company intended to commercialize the technology,[SUP][96][/SUP] but D&PL was acquired by Monsanto in 2007.[SUP][102][/SUP]
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Irrelevant to cannabis. You are an idiot.
 

nick88

Well-Known Member
Fem seeds produce half as much as regular seeds, the reason is half of them will hermie on you.



lmao jokes.

Seriously, if you get femm seeds watch out for late hermies.
If your getting 50% hermies from fem seeds, then you either need to switch seed banks, or change your method of growing. Ive run fems for a cpl yrs. The only hermie i had was an asian landrace sativa cross.
 

bmeat

New Member
no alex supertramp..i didnt read hippie blogs, i read the lawsuits that are public information dummy. from being the first to create pcbs, to create glyphosate herbicides (roundup) to creating mutated plants that withstand roundup, to creating plants THAT PRODUCE ROUNDUP INTO THE GROUND to producing the cow hormone thats makes our cows and milk sick (rBGH) to trying to make terminator seeds, to child labor, to false advertising, to disposing tons of fertilizer incorrectly, and the list goes on and ON!

why do you think soy quality used to be so good, now they are infection prone, crappy quality crops? becuase monstanto holds the patent to mutate them till 2014 along with a bunch of other crops!

do some reading!! fuck monsanto/mircal gro/scotts!!!

checkout their resume, sounds GREAT!! NOTTTTT!

"Monsanto Company (NYSE: MON) is a publicly traded American multinational agricultural biotechnology corporation headquartered in Creve Coeur, Missouri.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] It is a leading producer of genetically engineered (GE) seed and of the herbicide glyphosate, which it markets under the Roundup brand.[SUP][5][/SUP] Founded in 1901 by John Francis Queeny, by the 1940's it was a major producer of plastics, including polystyrene and synthetic fibers. Notable achievements by Monsanto and its scientists as a chemical company included breakthrough research on catalytic asymmetric hydrogenation and being the first company to mass-produce light emitting diodes (LEDs). The company also formerly manufactured controversial products such as the insecticide DDT, PCBs, Agent Orange, and recombinant bovine somatotropin."
 

bmeat

New Member
"SeedsMain articles: Genetically modified crops, Genetically modified food, and Genetically modified food controversies
As of 2012, Monsanto's line of seed products includes agricultural seeds and vegetable seeds.
Many of Monsanto's agricultural seed products are genetically modified for resistance to herbicides, such as glyphosate, which Monsanto sells under the brand, "Roundup" - Monsanto calls these seeds "Roundup Ready". Monsanto's introduction of this system (planting glyphosate-resistant seed and then applying glyphosate once plants emerged) provided farmers with an opportunity to dramatically increase the yield from a given plot of land, since this allowed them to plant rows closer together.[SUP][59][/SUP] Without it, farmers had to plant rows far enough apart to control post-emergent weeds with mechanical tillage.[SUP][59][/SUP] Farmers have widely adopted the technology - for example over 90% of maize (Mon 832), soybean (MON-Ø4Ø32-6), cotton, sugar beet, and canola planted in the United States are glyphosate-resistant, as described in the GM crops article. Monsanto has also developed a Roundup Ready wheat (MON 71800).
As of 2009, the overall Roundup line of products including the GM seeds represented about 50% of Monsanto's business.[SUP][60][/SUP] The patent on the first type of Roundup Ready crop that Monsanto produced (soybeans) expires in 2014.[SUP][61][/SUP] Monsanto has broadly licensed the patent to other seed companies that include the glyphosate resistance trait in their seed products.[SUP][62][/SUP] About 150 companies have licensed the technology,[SUP][63][/SUP] including Syngenta[SUP][64][/SUP] and Dupont/Pioneer.[SUP][65][/SUP]
In addition, Monsanto invented and sells agricultural seeds that are genetically modified to make a crystalline insecticidal protein from Bacillus thuringiensis, known as Bt. In 1995 Monsanto's potato plants producing Bt toxin were approved for sale by the Environmental Protection Agency, after having approved by the U.S. FDA, making it the first pesticide-producing crop to be approved in the United States.[SUP][66][/SUP] Monsanto has subsequently developed Bt maize (MON 802, MON 809, MON 863, MON 810), Bt soybean,[SUP][67][/SUP] and Bt cotton.
Monsanto also produces seed that has multiple modifications, also known as "stacked traits" —for instance, cotton that make one or more Bt proteins and is resistant to glyphosate. One of these, created in collaboration with Dow, is called SmartStax. In 2011 Monsanto launched the Genuity brand for its stacked-trait products.[SUP][68][/SUP]
As of 2012 the agricultural seed lineup includes Roundup Ready alfalfa; Roundup Ready canola; cotton with Bt, Roundup Ready, or both traits; sorghum hybrids; soybeans with various oil profiles, most with the Roundup Ready trait; Roundup Ready sugarbeet; and a wide range of wheat products, many of which incorporate the nontransgenic "clearfield" imazamox-tolerant[SUP][69][/SUP] trait from BASF.[SUP][70][/SUP]
Along with other ag-biotech companies, Monsanto has been working on developing drought-resistant GM crops.[SUP][71][/SUP]
Monsanto's vegetable seed lineup includes "4,000 distinct seed varieties representing more than 20 species" that are created through breeding, not through genetic engineering.[SUP][72][/SUP]
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created through breeding, and not genetic engineering..YEAH RIGHT!
 

prosperian

Well-Known Member
Man I will be 64. Smoking since 1963, growing since 1964. I planted some seeds in 1985 I found in an old film can from 1971 in my toolbox. That tool box was in shops that froze, had every sort of volatile parts cleaners available, heat in summer in AZ/NM/TX.

All but 3 sprouted, all those that sprouted lived. Damned good Mexican weed too. Seeds are extremely hardy but not indestructible.
Dam hotrod, you've been smokin and growin longer than I've been alive. Shame all these newb threads end with a bmeat round up. Confuses us new folks on the forum and makes the threads 1000 X longer to read.
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
Yep in a jar, add some dry rice and pop in the fridge. When you need beans allow the jar to reach room temp before opening to reduce the chance of condensation in the jar. As soon as you have removed the beans you want put the lid back on and pop them back in the fridge.
So the fridge not the freezer...
I like the rice thing, thanx for that info!
 

navyfighter04

Active Member
no alex supertramp..i didnt read hippie blogs, i read the lawsuits that are public information dummy. from being the first to create pcbs, to create glyphosate herbicides (roundup) to creating mutated plants that withstand roundup, to creating plants THAT PRODUCE ROUNDUP INTO THE GROUND to producing the cow hormone thats makes our cows and milk sick (rBGH) to trying to make terminator seeds, to child labor, to false advertising, to disposing tons of fertilizer incorrectly, and the list goes on and ON!

why do you think soy quality used to be so good, now they are infection prone, crappy quality crops? becuase monstanto holds the patent to mutate them till 2014 along with a bunch of other crops!

do some reading!! fuck monsanto/mircal gro/scotts!!!

checkout their resume, sounds GREAT!! NOTTTTT!

"Monsanto Company (NYSE: MON) is a publicly traded American multinational agricultural biotechnology corporation headquartered in Creve Coeur, Missouri.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] It is a leading producer of genetically engineered (GE) seed and of the herbicide glyphosate, which it markets under the Roundup brand.[SUP][5][/SUP] Founded in 1901 by John Francis Queeny, by the 1940's it was a major producer of plastics, including polystyrene and synthetic fibers. Notable achievements by Monsanto and its scientists as a chemical company included breakthrough research on catalytic asymmetric hydrogenation and being the first company to mass-produce light emitting diodes (LEDs). The company also formerly manufactured controversial products such as the insecticide DDT, PCBs, Agent Orange, and recombinant bovine somatotropin."
Im nick naming you the COPY AND PASTE KING, or MIS-GUIDED KING
 
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