Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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hexthat

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Light has everything to do with it! Manipulating the genetics of cannabis is what INDOOR growing is all about. Genetics allow a plant to produce x amount in optimal conditions, now you as the grower(god) decides what type of growth. Lower bud site can be manipulated in a way that you now produce the weight heigher on the plant thus increasing bud size while eliminating the useless popcorn, by telling me you get popcorn outdoors speaks to your abilities or lack of. Sad you come here with bad info and cannot learn from someone with greater experience or ability, your loss.



WRONG AGAIN! My background is in the AG industry and my lab work and studies go way deeper than what you are reading on the net... but keep believing what you read from the kiddies who thinks he can grow a 1zip plant then post online about their GREAT technique or some out dated practices from a gone era. Manipulation of crops has grown in population in the last twenty years for only one reason INCREASED food production.



Gees! you sure can get your fact mixed up. You are correct in the thinking they are used for, but skewed on their job exactly. At a certain point in the life cycle they become a detriment to the plant and is at that point a good grower will reconize this and help their plant. Some strains will actually show you, have you ever wonderd why some leaf stems start to turn purple at a certain point?The plant is shutting down those leaves to increase growth elsewhere. Sorry roots do not store anything, their the transportation hub for moving product up the chain to be used or stored. Stems are like your backbone or at least someone that has one. You talk about fruits and veggies and make comparisons to them so much it makes me wonder if you grow cannabis at all?



This statement has said it all, you can't tell the difference between a plant that has been severly manipulated and one that isn't. This plant was stripped clean at the start of flower and a practice I call controlled removal right up to harvest. What you seem to think is lots of leaves is the re-growth from the manipulation. This is how my girls enter my flower chamber




You are the one that seems scared, my technique and ability speak volumes for advocating PROPER LEAF REMOVAL

Enjoy your popcorn bud if you want, but stop giving people bad advice from an era long gone.

Obviously you should stick to fruits and vegetables since your knowledge base seems to come from that. I think there a veggie grower forum somewhere...ask your internet buddies I'm sure they can point you in the right direction, after their diaper change that is...
... what happened to the bottoms? that there looks like less yield to me.
 

woodsmantoker

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hexthat, you missed the point, friend. Not upset a bit. I lost nothing. I "assist" upon request from individuals I agree to help.

Granted, the sick woman ended up with a giant crop of powdery mildew, that likely left someone a bit upset. But hey, they are selling it fast in a local "compassion club" without fail. Why would they be?

I am not going to elaborate on my points here, just simply enjoying you folks company, so I am here. HELLO!
 

Sir.Ganga

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Well I wish I had a pic of those girls finished. I run a perpetual system that pulls off weekly. Here is a pic of the same technique finished that same week.

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As you can see the timeline in the pics are of a set of girls going in and this is a set comming off. My technique was the same on both and is still the same until I find a better practice. Look at the girl behind her and you can see the shaved legs.

Whatever you take from the bottom you will get back further up the plant, you can I repeat, you can take this technique and leaf removal too far for sure but once you learn the curve you will never smoke or trim popcorn again.

This girl by the way produced over 1 pound herself.

PROPER leaf removal and timming can result in huge yeilds...so experiment a little and find what works best for your system.

But don't be scared to try something new and experience it for yourself first hand.
 

woodsmantoker

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Hex,
Jorge's cup winner, failed at removing a powdery mildew problem in a green house..A discredit to Jorge? No, simply a insight as to how things work, and how things can be deceiving. The fella charged a sick woman for a product that was suppose to work better than "diligence" and "diversity in product usage" which were my only recommendations, after I had already insured that there were products to be used (and books to reference). I think this is where you all sensed my dissatisfaction and if you at all know me it would only be obvious I would have a problem with that. Though, she was happy, and that helped me be OK with it, and at the end of the day, long after I was tinkering in other projects, pounds and pounds of mildew engulfed cannabis were harvested for sale at a compassion club. That's all.

So I did what I said I wouldn't and elaborated, but folks I love the chat but have to run. Thanks for the breakfast date Uncles!

Sorry again to the OP for the thread jack. I am out!

Woodsmantoker~
 

stumpjumper

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You can shove proof right up his ass but he wont believe you.

Of course apical dominance makes the top buds recieve most of the energy to grow. But you're still denying the fact that when you open up the light to that little whispy popcorn bud down below it IMMEDIATELY starts to green up, fatten and frost up and mature with the rest of the buds. Why, because the little leaves on that bud finally start getting some light to make it grow. When you strip a fan leaf there are still leaves on the buds to take it's place.

You need to try it instead of arguing about something your wrong about. As smart as you are Uncle Bud, you're too set in stone man.. Why don't you try to experiment a little bit. Just once.. So you quit making youself out to be foolish man. I know you're smart about plants, but you aren't always right, not this time.


It would only take one try to change your mind.. But I think you'd hack the plant all to fuck and deliberately fuck it up just so you could say "see I told you it didn't work" lol.
 

Uncle Pirate

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I agree totally with partial defoliation. I've seen buds stuck under huge fan leaves pale yellow from being smothered.
 

hexthat

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I agree totally with partial defoliation. I've seen buds stuck under huge fan leaves pale yellow from being smothered.

I've smoked fluffy buds that were white/yellow from no light on the very bottom branchs get me fucked to space were as the tops just got me high...
 

Uncle Pirate

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I've smoked fluffy buds that were white/yellow from no light on the very bottom branchs get me fucked to space were as the tops just got me high...
But if removing the one leaf that was covering it fattened it up 4x is it worth that leaf's sacrifice? What if its a cluster of nugs under the leaf? Some leaves are too big to simply tuck to the side.
 

hexthat

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The "shade leafs" grow them in the dark and feed them the sugars they make from the light creating better weed.
 
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