Epic 4x4 Flowering Smackdown : 96 Elites vs 288s

StickyBudHound

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StickyBudHound

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Or_Gro said:
Documenting 12:12 defol

4x96:
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8x288
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OK, now we're talking! These are how I expected to see them after you defol. Lol, smooth shave is always fun!

WTH happened to my notifications, I wonder? You have like 40 more posts on here since the last one I got for your grow.
 
Or_Gro

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StickyBudHound said:
OK, now we're talking! These are how I expected to see them after you defol. Lol, smooth shave is always fun!

WTH happened to my notifications, I wonder? You have like 40 more posts on here since the last one I got for your grow.
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Not sure whats up with alerts, rb told me he’s having same prob with my thread,

Anyway, last grow, i gave them their brazilian about a week or so before 12:12, decided this time to see what happens if they have it at 12:12.

Another change this time, is that i’ve brought out to perimeter the main tops as well as the 2 pairs of laterals i would normally lollypop at 12:12. They are long enuff, and all tied at same height relative to canopy top. This gives me about 40 tops per plant at this point, this will certainly increase as more laterals emerge from the tops...And, with plenty of space to fill in the centers...could be a f’ing cola jungle in there...

Yesterday most of the newly tied tops were sideways. this morning, every top was vertical, with larger leaves, and greening up. They must be in very high photosynthesis mode with the lights cranked to 950-1050ppfd, co2 at 800+ppm, temp at 78-80F, rh 55-60%, and huge, healthy root balls relative to canopy. At this pace, they’ll be bushed out again by the end of their first week.

If they keep this pace up, i’ll jack up the temps some more and boost co2 to 1500ppm...go full monty on them...for peak photosynthesis...

Interested to see if the light intensity is strong enuff to control internode length...may end up testing out higher ppfd...

Lookin good for now...
 
led1k

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Or_Gro said:
Not sure whats up with alerts, rb told me he’s having same prob with my thread,

Anyway, last grow, i gave them their brazilian about a week or so before 12:12, decided this time to see what happens if they have it at 12:12.

Another change this time, is that i’ve brought out to perimeter the main tops as well as the 2 pairs of laterals i would normally lollypop at 12:12. They are long enuff, and all tied at same height relative to canopy top. This gives me about 40 tops per plant at this point, this will certainly increase as more laterals emerge from the tops...And, with plenty of space to fill in the centers...could be a f’ing cola jungle in there...

Yesterday most of the newly tied tops were sideways. this morning, every top was vertical, with larger leaves, and greening up. They must be in very high photosynthesis mode with the lights cranked to 950-1050ppfd, co2 at 800+ppm, temp at 78-80F, rh 55-60%, and huge, healthy root balls relative to canopy. At this pace, they’ll be bushed out again by the end of their first week.

If they keep this pace up, i’ll jack up the temps some more and boost co2 to 1500ppm...go full monty on them...for peak photosynthesis...

Interested to see if the light intensity is strong enuff to control internode length...may end up testing out higher ppfd...

Lookin good for now...
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Can't wait to see the comparison between the Brazilian shot and the final before harvest. I'm betting it will be the best argument for heavy HEAVY defol.:hump:
 
Or_Gro

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led1k said:
Can't wait to see the comparison between the Brazilian shot and the final before harvest. I'm betting it will be the best argument for heavy HEAVY defol.:hump:
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Harvest? Next week it should be close to what it looked like on monday, may be even more...and all that energy is going straight to the tips...lol

Apical dominance makes defol a big gun in a grower’s arsenal...
 
StickyBudHound

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Or_Gro said:
Not sure whats up with alerts, rb told me he’s having same prob with my thread,

Anyway, last grow, i gave them their brazilian about a week or so before 12:12, decided this time to see what happens if they have it at 12:12.

Another change this time, is that i’ve brought out to perimeter the main tops as well as the 2 pairs of laterals i would normally lollypop at 12:12. They are long enuff, and all tied at same height relative to canopy top. This gives me about 40 tops per plant at this point, this will certainly increase as more laterals emerge from the tops...And, with plenty of space to fill in the centers...could be a f’ing cola jungle in there...

Yesterday most of the newly tied tops were sideways. this morning, every top was vertical, with larger leaves, and greening up. They must be in very high photosynthesis mode with the lights cranked to 950-1050ppfd, co2 at 800+ppm, temp at 78-80F, rh 55-60%, and huge, healthy root balls relative to canopy. At this pace, they’ll be bushed out again by the end of their first week.

If they keep this pace up, i’ll jack up the temps some more and boost co2 to 1500ppm...go full monty on them...for peak photosynthesis...

Interested to see if the light intensity is strong enuff to control internode length...may end up testing out higher ppfd...

Lookin good for now...
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Those 40 tops each is gonna be amazing to see in there. I'm looking at around 48 on the JH with the current plan. MHM should ready to begin training the laterals out today. LHZ and PYC aren't far behind. This flux method has huge potential!
 
Or_Gro

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Moms at 8 weeks, some of them have trichs starting to get milky. Prob do preflush this weekend on the milky ones, flush a few days after, repeat on others.

Some pretty big colas for not doing anything other than adjusting water. Rock hard nugs, and super effing stiiiiii...iiicky!

Can’t wait to see what more intense mgt and co2 supplementation can do.

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Original Glue, aka gorilla glue #4 (middle plant, right side)

2nd largest main
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Trainwreck (back plant, right side)

Second largest main
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Or_Gro

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StickyBudHound said:
Those 40 tops each is gonna be amazing to see in there. I'm looking at around 48 on the JH with the current plan. MHM should ready to begin training the laterals out today. LHZ and PYC aren't far behind. This flux method has huge potential!
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I’ve read a lot of his threads..great technique, basically a low, long nebula haze mainline. Main drawback is time to layout and veg, but huge potential yielder, depending on conditions...great matchup for your timeframe and conditions...should be monster city...

Pics please..

It was great to see that thread of his again...helped convince me to pull all those laterals out to the perimeter....turning mine into nugbuckets mainline with nebula haze tops....lol, best of both worlds, with that huge center space to play around in...
 
StickyBudHound

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Or_Gro said:
I’ve read a lot of his threads..great technique, basically a low, long nebula haze mainline. Main drawback is time to layout and veg, but huge potential yielder, depending on conditions...great matchup for your timeframe and conditions...should be monster city...

Pics please..

It was great to see that thread of his again...helped convince me to pull all those laterals out to the perimeter....turning mine into nugbuckets mainline with nebula haze tops....lol, best of both worlds, with that huge center space to play around in...
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It was so coincidental that you posted to his thread. The flux has been on my back burner since I started in late 2017. I'm finally comfortable with it and keeping up without the second guessing or worries of causing detriment to the plants.

Last grow, the timing wouldn't work at just 5 weeks of veg so it became a mostly Nebula mainline. This grow has purpose. Much better planning went into it. I think the 10 week veg goal should play out great!

I'm taking it a step further by super cropping after all branches are 3 to 4 nodes above scrog.
 
Or_Gro

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Previous grow with 8x288 and diff strains:

Defol 9 days before 12:12
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8 tops per plant

At 12:12
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Current grow with same lights:

Defol at 12:12
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~40 tops per plant!!!!

10 days from now?
 
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Steakbomb

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Or_Gro said:
Wazzup?
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You may recall my hazes are growing quite short. You may also recall that I need to go 13.5:10.5 by March 15th to leave time to harvest before I get my addition put on my house this summer. There is no way I can hit and fill my screens by then... I tried to put them in and set them short last weekend, but my chiller loop hose is in the way at that height.

So - I'm just gonna flip this weekend w/o screens and have a plain old-fashioned manifold on my hands.
 
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Steakbomb said:
You may recall my hazes are growing quite short. You may also recall that I need to go 13.5:10.5 by March 15th to leave time to harvest before I get my addition put on my house this summer. There is no way I can hit and fill my screens by then... I tried to put them in and set them short last weekend, but my chiller loop hose is in the way at that height.

So - I'm just gonna flip this weekend w/o screens and have a plain old-fashioned manifold on my hands.
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Cool man, you’ll undoubtedly learn some new shit...an adventure not a setback, enjoy....

You'll have some haze to smoke when that basement nursery, behind the new furnace, is ready for occupancy....
 
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Shit I'll probably still have 0.75-1 lb of this Blue around when this haze is done too - gonna be well stocked to keep us supplied for the 2 month grow hiatus and lengthy grow afterwards.
 
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Haha! I set up this username a few days ago and was having trouble getting the email confirmation... so I just got the 48hr trophy already. I think that means I can start a thread now... Grow Journal subforum?
 
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