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mike91sr

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Taking Super Silver Haze and Purple Kush clones this weekend myself, first batch of 7 Strawberry Cough's are looking like 100% survival as of right now. Only one showing roots so far, 8 days in, but they all look healthy and they're from the same plant so I'm hopeful. I'm excited to see your next grow Woodsman I haven't followed one yet, catching up on older stuff right now. Check mine out and let me know what you think, I'm hoping to flower by end of Sept. I'm going to be raising my side pots a couple inches today or tomorrow to get them more in the screen. Time to start training!
 

Heads Up

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Hello scroggers and thanks woodsman for the thread. I'm new to scrogging but I do remember that particular high times in your avatar. So I read a couple of pages and want to know what about supercropping an unruly branch that you can't pull back down through your screen?

This being my first scrog attempt but not my first visit to this thread I am proceeding thusly so far. A few days over six weeks of veg from seed for a critical+kali mist and two chocolopes. I have one clone each of a colombian gold and a super skunk going too. They are all in three gallon smart pots and have now been in 12/12 for two weeks. I have not topped any of these plants. Any constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated.

I am having a difficult time with the chocolopes which are supposed to be ninety five percent sativa. Too much sativa for an indoor grow using six hundred watt lights? I battled and am battling a case of the claw with them. I held back on nitrogen but they started to yellow and I'm not overwatering them and I ph all my liquids to about 6.3 before applying. None of the other plants are lagging like these two. It is also my first grow with any of these strains.
 

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Porky B

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I thought I would take a moment and share my outdoor SCROG with all of you.

Sometimes people get too hung-up on one type of grow style or technique - indoor vs outdoor, LST or lollipoping, organic vs hydro and so on, but these are all just different tools in the tool chest. A good workman matches the right tool to the right job. And in this particular case the right tool was the tried and true SCROG method.

For most outdoor strains I would usually let the plant bush out as much as possible, tying it up and out with wire and using netting and poles for support. But in this case I have a strain thats the perfect candidate for a big time SCROG.

This plant has several draw-backs outdoors - it needs a lot of training and support, and it also has extremely brittle branches that don't take kindly to being tied up or out.

The strain is called Purple Sour Diesel, it's one of the few good strains I have that flowers early enough to finish in October. (that's why I grow it)

This was what they looked like when they went in the ground on June 20. The first two rows are Purple Sour Diesel. Five plants in each row.



For my 'screen' I used 50'x4' roll of fence.

This was taken the day the fence was put on - July 23.



At this stage the plants are already flowering but they will continue to grow a lot and will remain pliable (bendy branches) for weeks to come.

The squares are the perfect size and spacing to train tops through.

This was shot on the same day - July 23.



A few days later it looked like this.


For the next few weeks I kept training horizontally; filling up as many squares as possible with tops.

If any tops got too tall they got popped over to an empty square.



Eventually it went from this....


To this....



As the stems started getting brittle and hard to bend I let everything go vertical. By then the space was pretty full.



This was taken at the beginning of September.



And this was taken last week.



As you can see...it's turning out very nice! (better then I expected)

So there you have it.

Nothing new or earth shattering. Just standard SCROG practices. Most people use it to maximize tops in the grow zone. I use it more for strength and support. It's the exact same techniques though, just on a larger scale.

I hope you enjoyed my take on the SCROG method!



Porky
 

mr.green123

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I thought I would take a moment and share my outdoor SCROG with all of you.

Sometimes people get too hung-up on one type of grow style or technique - indoor vs outdoor, LST or lollipoping, organic vs hydro and so on, but these are all just different tools in the tool chest. A good workman matches the right tool to the right job. And in this particular case the right tool was the tried and true SCROG method.

For most outdoor strains I would usually let the plant bush out as much as possible, tying it up and out with wire and using netting and poles for support. But in this case I have a strain thats the perfect candidate for a big time SCROG.

This plant has several draw-backs outdoors - it needs a lot of training and support, and it also has extremely brittle branches that don't take kindly to being tied up or out.

The strain is called Purple Sour Diesel, it's one of the few good strains I have that flowers early enough to finish in October. (that's why I grow it)

This was what they looked like when they went in the ground on June 20. The first two rows are Purple Sour Diesel. Five plants in each row.



For my 'screen' I used 50'x4' roll of fence.

This was taken the day the fence was put on - July 23.



At this stage the plants are already flowering but they will continue to grow a lot and will remain pliable (bendy branches) for weeks to come.

The squares are the perfect size and spacing to train tops through.

This was shot on the same day - July 23.



A few days later it looked like this.


For the next few weeks I kept training horizontally; filling up as many squares as possible with tops.

If any tops got too tall they got popped over to an empty square.



Eventually it went from this....


To this....



As the stems started getting brittle and hard to bend I let everything go vertical. By then the space was pretty full.



This was taken at the beginning of September.



And this was taken last week.



As you can see...it's turning out very nice! (better then I expected)

So there you have it.

Nothing new or earth shattering. Just standard SCROG practices. Most people use it to maximize tops in the grow zone. I use it more for strength and support. It's the exact same techniques though, just on a larger scale.

I hope you enjoyed my take on the SCROG method!



Porky
very nice mate fairplay +rep
 

woodsmantoker

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I'm new to scrogging but I do remember that particular high times in your avatar.

Good Times

So I read a couple of pages and want to know what about supercropping an unruly branch that you can't pull back down through your screen?

Elaborate on "unruly" a bit for me if you would, maybe an image

I am having a difficult time with the chocolopes which are supposed to be ninety five percent sativa.

Ill dig up some helpful info for ya. We love chocolope, its a must in our garden. Great Choices BTW
 

Heads Up

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Woodsman, unruly would be a bud site that is growing faster than the others and starting to block the light. I supercropped it yesterday. Any and all help with the chocolopes would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
 

woodsmantoker

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Woodsman, unruly would be a bud site that is growing faster than the others and starting to block the light. I supercropped it yesterday. Any and all help with the chocolopes would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Chocolope has a few pheno's that tend to be sensitive to nute's, where as others are cal/mag lovers and once you find the happy medium, they will then flourish with higher ratios of nutes. (my experience). I would say flush with a good PH'd water and take note over the next few days. If the problems persist, try a Cal/mag feed. Ill link you in a private message to a fella.

Can you post an image of your unruly area? I would not have suggested supper cropping it, sorry I didn't speak sooner. Suppercropping will likely further your issues. Post up some images from close as well as a few further away including lighting.
 

Heads Up

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Here ya' go woodsman. The orange looking pic is of the stem I supercropped. The others were taken using and incandescent setting on my camera to try to cut out the orange look of the hps. These were taken about an hour ago. I sent you a pm response. They are seventeen days into 12/12. Thanks again.

Edit. I'm using two six hundreds and they are about a foot above the canopy.
 

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Dayzt

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Here ya' go woodsman. The orange looking pic is of the stem I supercropped. The others were taken using and incandescent setting on my camera to try to cut out the orange look of the hps. These were taken about an hour ago. I sent you a pm response. They are seventeen days into 12/12. Thanks again.

Edit. I'm using two six hundreds and they are about a foot above the canopy.
I'm really liking the huge screen!! You're in for an amazing result once those girls finish the flowering stretch... great pics! :leaf:
 

mike91sr

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Anyone have some ideas on when I should be able to flower these? Left 4 are Strawberry cough (supposed to have pretty vigorous stretch). Middle is PK, not expecting it to fill much area. Right is Super Silver Haze, a high stretch plant (depending which pheno I have, idk yet).
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