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FADING-SILHOUETTE

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Weaving really isnt needed. I just reached under the screen and pulled them back under. Not all that difficult.
Scrog screen is just a simple way to control your canopy, no other aids are necessary.
I made no adjustments after 3 weeks into flower.
To a degree i agree, but some larger stubborn conopy stems some times additionally need tying down as well..i never weave though.. STELTHY :leaf:
 

oldskoolnewskool

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So I should let them grow upwards for more than a day and tie the tie down the hard ones vs constantly pushing them down?
if you can, when they poke thru a couple of inches, pull down the top and up on a string and move outward a square at a time, opens up
the inside of your stems for more light,, allows room for secondary branches to come up thru,

if they get too far above the screen to move a square, tie them down in the same outward pattern, put SOME strain downward, by the
next day they will be ready to be pulled down a little further if pulling it all at once seems too much for a branch to take
 

FADING-SILHOUETTE

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So I should let them grow upwards for more than a day and tie the tie down the hard ones vs constantly pushing them down?
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I find a screen or net works fine on its own.....until she gets to a certain size...i like to do compact but fairly large scrog grows my current one completely fills a 3 x 3 in veg... As soon as i topped her for the 1st time at about 14 inches tall thats when I started to tie down the thicker stems and branches with wool.. Because said branches become too strong at that point and will literally force the scrog net upwards thus untraing some of the lower areas of the canopy - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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woodsmantoker

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if you can, when they poke thru a couple of inches, pull down the top and up on a string and move outward a square at a time, opens up
the inside of your stems for more light,, allows room for secondary branches to come up thru,

if they get too far above the screen to move a square, tie them down in the same outward pattern, put SOME strain downward, by the
next day they will be ready to be pulled down a little further if pulling it all at once seems too much for a branch to take
"Pull and place"
 

gr865

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Am I seeing a trend of greater g/w in your results of horizontal or "scrog" runs? It appears that your highest g/w harvests were horizontal or scrog.
I have to do a screen, not a scrog, because I can't get under the plants the way I use too. If I grow vertical I can remove the plants from the tent to work on them. Can't do that with either a Scrog or ever a support screen.
I wish I lived in a legal state where I could have a whole room to grow in, instead of a 4 x 4. 72 years old and a bad back make it tough to work on the plants the way I used too.
 

gr865

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@gr865 back problems is why i run multiple small screens they just support the plant on its own and simple to move about. Maybe worth looking at.
How big are the screens? With my vertical setup I have over 25 sqft of grow area, compared to 16 sqft of my 4 x 4 tent.
What are you pulling from that form of grow? Doesn't the screen move on you?
Interesting concept.
 

Hippieryan

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I am just new today, hey everyone, I tried to use the search so I am not asking the same questions? But I couldn’t type? I am planning on a screen of green for my next grow, even though it a couple months away.
I was thinking of using a cheap winch system to lift the hole unit up including screen and tops of containers for water changes in my hydro set up? What do you guys think? Or am I getting to technical?
I like to piss around with stuff and try new things all the time for best results? Any input would be great.
I am planning on having4 plants under a 4x3 screen. Should I make my holes 2” or 3”?
 

zypheruk

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@gr865 im usually pulling 11 oz per plant when using 2.5ftx2.5ft screens 2 x screens per shelf in the cabinet so around 20oz+ under 300 watts per shelf total about 40+oz under 600 watts depending on strain. cab size is about 8ft tall x 2.5ft wide and 4.8ft long. I supercrop the plants on the main stem then every node after that by the time i put the screen on and weave the branches into the net they support themselves. Atm im running 3 x screens on the top shelf and a 2.5ftx2.5ft on the bottom. I am also adding more led strips to each level so i can run them even more efficent and at about 250 watts max will aim to have 3 shelves in that cabinet once im done with the grow competitions this summer. Grow style will be more plants grown shorter in rockwool cubes. So things are going to get rather productive to say the least. Vertical i looked at but it takes way to long to grow them to 8ft.
 
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zypheruk

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Did you end up going with your side lit cab plan?
Corey i got hit with spidermites and gave up lol, but as said going stacked horizontal small plants as it uses the lights more efficent less wasted light bouncing nowhere but directly on the canopy.
6inch rockwool cubes and 6 inch colas hits the spot of solid nugs and very little power required just loads a single row strips.
 
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coreywebster

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Corey i got hit with spidermites and gave up lol, but as said going stacked horizontal small plants as it uses the lights more efficent less wasted light bouncing nowhere but directly on the canopy.
6inch rockwool cubes and 6 inch colas hits the spot of solid nugs and very little power required just loads a single row strips.
Damn those bastards to hell!
 

zypheruk

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Damn those bastards to hell!
Yeah im still fighting the cunts lol, just ordered predator mites to clean up on the current vegging plants.
When i get the cabs new levels and air circulation sorted i will post a full diary with all the specs and photos to match. I think my competition diaries end in June cant recall lol.
 

gr865

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@gr865 im usually pulling 11 oz per plant when using 2.5ftx2.5ft screens 2 x screens per shelf in the cabinet so around 20oz+ under 300 watts per shelf total about 40+oz under 600 watts depending on strain. cab size is about 8ft tall x 2.5ft wide and 4.8ft long. I supercrop the plants on the main stem then every node after that by the time i put the screen on and weave the branches into the net they support themselves. Atm im running 3 x screens on the top shelf and a 2.5ftx2.5ft on the bottom. I am also adding more led strips to each level so i can run them even more efficent and at about 250 watts max will aim to have 3 shelves in that cabinet once im done with the grow competitions this summer. Grow style will be more plants grown shorter in rockwool cubes. So things are going to get rather productive to say the least. Vertical i looked at but it takes way to long to grow them to 8ft.
What is your pot size? I don't grow vert to 8 ft., they are around 4 to 5 ft at max. and I vegged for about 5 weeks and flipped on 1/1/20. So 11 to 13 weeks total grow time strain dependent.

You plants look great.
 

Just Be

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I am just new today, hey everyone, I tried to use the search so I am not asking the same questions? But I couldn’t type? I am planning on a screen of green for my next grow, even though it a couple months away.
I was thinking of using a cheap winch system to lift the hole unit up including screen and tops of containers for water changes in my hydro set up? What do you guys think? Or am I getting to technical?
I like to piss around with stuff and try new things all the time for best results? Any input would be great.
I am planning on having4 plants under a 4x3 screen. Should I make my holes 2” or 3”?
Welcome to RIU, Hippie. I'm not sure what you have planned for a res (or if this will even work in your application) but this guy on Reddit came up with a 3D printed device that allows him to lift his screen and res lid at the same time. You'll have to scroll through the comments (I haven't) to see if he's made them available. https://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/f5r6qo
 
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