Element Collective??

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irieie

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Lucius Vorenus said:
Sorry amigo. My group has hundreds of thousands of dollars into this to try and help patients Legally. I don't have a lot of love for greedy fucks who just want to slang weed outside of the law.
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oh so you just love greedy fucks who want to slang weed inside the law then.
 
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IVIars

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Lucius Vorenus said:
Sorry amigo. My group has hundreds of thousands of dollars into this to try and help patients Legally. I don't have a lot of love for greedy fucks who just want to slang weed outside of the law.
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Did you forget your first post? The one where you were trying to sell weed for 350 an oz if i remember correctly. Then you edited it after getting flamed
 
phxfire

phxfire

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Isisyogi said:
No, I'm not. Friend of mine lives down the street from them, so we went in there to check things out. If you haven't been, it's worth a trip just to get the visual on how they manage things., and to talk to discuss their operation. Since they aren't a dispensary, they aren't allowed to sell directly to mmj patients (from my understanding after talking to 2 workers, though others say different), but they are allowed to exchange, sell, donate (however they phrase it) with other caregivers, thus being a Caregiver Collective. So they have a vending machine that dispenses the medicine. Next to it they have a touch screen that allows you to explore the options within the machine, what each strain does, what is recommended for what, etc. You can get mmj massages, I think you can get medibles, but I'm not clear on how they manage that, as it is usable mmj and both would be considered OTC and since they can't dispense it, OTC medibles seems odd to me. Same with the mmj massage as it is usable within the oils. It'll be interesting to see how things change once the dispensaries are up and running.

Im not clear on the AZ laws when dealing with medibles, topicals and delivery service. Those who make medibles aren't afforded the ability to grow their own product after dispensaries open, from my understanding. I would expect that after a year of the dispensaries being open, the laws will have to account for the many parts of the industry. I just don't clearly see the legal lines for it right now. If anyone has any input on the matter, I'd love to hear it.


AZDOH accounts for about 25,000 mmj card holders statewide currently. That's about 2,000 new card holders per month. With 124 dispensaries, it'll be interesting to see how things move along. I would imagine that the first 2 years of the process we will see many dispensaries closing down for a variety of reasons.
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A vending machine in possession of marijuana? Who gets the charge here? HA Good idea! Load me up with 350 credits so I can get an OZ and my caregiver will get $160 for the OZ!


Isisyogi said:
Its not that kind of model. Compassion clubs are places mmj card holders can pay to join and hang out, exchange, etc. Its a caregiver collective. I'm not sure if you have to pay to be a member. I know they offered to sign me up as a caregiver with the state and added a 10% charge, or $20 for that service. That's pretty standard in any biz. Had heard that originally they were asking for a half pound donation to get started, but no one mentioned that to me when I went there in January. I have since heard they don't do that any more. You can work in the place and you hourly rate is based on how many people you are caregiver to. Highest patient count equals highest hourly. It's still a small amount in my opinion. Especially since you have to pay over $1000 for state caregiver status, yearly, to boot! It doesn't seem cost effective. But in the absence of places, I guess they get away with it. They make $100 on every ounce they distribute, claiming expense coverage. I think it's a bit high, but they are still open. I'm not opposed to them making money, just this particular model seems to be a bit lofty.
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I question the man who know all too much!! Elements gets more than $100 an OZ my friend!!! True compassion right? I tell you this my friend!! Either you work with or for Elements or you have conformed to what "they" want! A non questioning person!! A person who accepts it for what it is and has no reason.. Am I wrong?


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I jump on every OP that is here for patients and all patients should question those who are here you Us!! Right? I am simple pulling in all the facts from my own experiences and others to come to my conclusion!!! There are many GREAT compassionate clubs out there.. You don't hear about them because they are doing it right!! Not ripping off patients... Would this all be talked about if it were not true? I tell you my friend, if there was a grievance there is likely others!!

You must see through the silk screen pulled down over reality!
 
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