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Wilksey said:
You mean the social engineering where they take you out and shoot you if you don't follow their fucked up orders? Is that the kind of social engineering you're talking about?

Most Germans would NOT tolerate outright murdering anybody, period, and certainly not the standard German soldier. However, the fucked up regime was smart enough to recruit brain dead fanatics to their cause, and gave them the authority to MURDER those that didn't toe the line.

OUR military is basically doing the same g'damn thing, except instead of "yes men" willing to kill jews, they're looking for "yes men" willing to toe the "equal opportunity" and "diversity" party line. Standards don't mean a g'damn thing anymore. It's all about the "yes men".

How long will it be before they unleash those fuckin' retards on citizens to uphold their world view of "equality" I wonder?
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Dude, there are plenty of armed soldiers who will visit death upon any person in the middle east with enthusiam, just like the SS did. The German people really did think the Jews caused all their problems and were vermin.
 
NoDrama said:
You said Hitler killed 6 million all by himself. Just correcting you since no one has the time to run a country, plan a war AND kill 6 million people all by themselves, not without a time travel device anyway, you aren't saying hilter traveled time are you?
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Not to the past, that's impossible.

But Hitler lead an organization that did all of those things.

People commonly say TR built the Panama Canal, that Nelson defeated the French and Spanish in the War of Spanish Succession, that Caesar defeated the Gulls when he besieged Getereks, and that Alexander the Great conquered the world.

These men were heads of organizations... they passed out orders and directives to upper management (so to speak) who planned and further delegated and so on until soldiers, sailors, and people did things to accomplish those ends or goals.

Yes, we can say that Hitler did all that because he gave the orders that got it done, and it's consistent with how judge others.
 
Wilksey said:
You mean the social engineering where they take you out and shoot you if you don't follow their fucked up orders? Is that the kind of social engineering you're talking about?

Most Germans would NOT tolerate outright murdering anybody, period, and certainly not the standard German soldier. However, the fucked up regime was smart enough to recruit brain dead fanatics to their cause, and gave them the authority to MURDER those that didn't toe the line.

OUR military is basically doing the same g'damn thing, except instead of "yes men" willing to kill jews, they're looking for "yes men" willing to toe the "equal opportunity" and "diversity" party line. Standards don't mean a g'damn thing anymore. It's all about the "yes men".

How long will it be before they unleash those fuckin' retards on citizens to uphold their world view of "equality" I wonder?
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wow, you are completely fucked in the head.
 
NoDrama said:
Dude, there are plenty of armed soldiers who will visit death upon any person in the middle east with enthusiam, just like the SS did. The German people really did think the Jews caused all their problems and were vermin.
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kinda reminds me of wilksey's views on minorities.
 
reasonevangelist said:
the person following the order can choose otherwise...

In fact, look up "psychiatry in nazi germany," for a somewhat in-depth look at how the nazis didn't even have to coerce most of the participants in the holocaust. They went along with it because they believed they were doing the right thing, not because they were "ordered to do so." Maybe some of them... but not most. Social engineering is powerful stuff; that's where the U.S. learned some of its most potent tricks. Checkout "Operation Paperclip."
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What do you think happened to people who told Hitler "no sir" in Nazi Germany?

Perhaps early retirement with a partial government pension?
 
SmokeyDan said:
What do you think happened to people who told Hitler "no sir" in Nazi Germany?

Perhaps early retirement with a partial government pension?
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does it matter?

How many people would you unjustly exterminate in order to appease your Fuehrer?

And why do you think a dissenter would stand alone in refusal of unacceptable orders? Is it perhaps due to the fact that most of them actually agreed with the orders? It's not like they were a hopeless disarmed populace of malnourished weaklings.

Also: what do you think happens to people who tell police "no sir" in Nazi America?
 
reasonevangelist said:
does it matter?

How many people would you unjustly exterminate in order to appease your Fuehrer?

And why do you think a dissenter would stand alone in refusal of unacceptable orders? Is it perhaps due to the fact that most of them actually agreed with the orders? It's not like they were a hopeless disarmed populace of malnourished weaklings.

Also: what do you think happens to people who tell police "no sir" in Nazi America?
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Yes it matters. In nazi germany they wouldn't just kill you, but your family also.

So to answer your first question, all of them. I would kill everyone they told me to kill because their life comes second to that of my child's.

As to your other question, nothing quite often. I had speeding ticket court the other day. The state trooper who wrote my ticket didn't make it to court. A couple of people who had tickets from the same trooper hired an attorney, and the attorney got the ticket dismissed because of the troopers absence.

When it was my turn I requested that the judge dismissed the ticket because of the troopers absence.

He said we could just reschedule for a time when the trooper was present.

I demanded a trial that day, right now.

I could tell he was somewhat upset but he dismissed my ticket.

I've refused to give ID to cops before while being a pedestrian. They asked more firmly a second time, which I more politely refused.

So the answer is, when you tell law enforcement no in America, they bluff you a little first, to try to get you on the second go, then they follow the law. Just be sure it's on your side when you say no.
 
SmokeyDan said:
Yes it matters. In nazi germany they wouldn't just kill you, but your family also.

So to answer your first question, all of them. I would kill everyone they told me to kill because their life comes second to that of my child's.

As to your other question, nothing quite often. I had speeding ticket court the other day. The state trooper who wrote my ticket didn't make it to court. A couple of people who had tickets from the same trooper hired an attorney, and the attorney got the ticket dismissed because of the troopers absence.

When it was my turn I requested that the judge dismissed the ticket because of the troopers absence.

He said we could just reschedule for a time when the trooper was present.

I demanded a trial that day, right now.

I could tell he was somewhat upset but he dismissed my ticket.

I've refused to give ID to cops before while being a pedestrian. They asked more firmly a second time, which I more politely refused.

So the answer is, when you tell law enforcement no in America, they bluff you a little first, to try to get you on the second go, then they follow the law. Just be sure it's on your side when you say no.
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Ha. I will refer you to this thread:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-pigs-are-out-of-control.832223/
 
reasonevangelist said:
Ha. I will refer you to this thread:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-pigs-are-out-of-control.832223/
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Dude, I'm as opposed to this police state as it gets. But it pales in comparison to Nazi Germany.

The problem with cops is it is only a minority that would ever be unnecessarily violent with you or me. The bad thing is that the vast majority of the cops who wouldn't do it would help their buddies who did get away with it.

The good ones cover for the bad ones. Which makes them bad, but not as bad.

And nazi germany was far worse in every way.
 
SmokeyDan said:
Dude, I'm as opposed to this police state as it gets. But it pales in comparison to Nazi Germany.

The problem with cops is it is only a minority that would ever be unnecessarily violent with you or me. The bad thing is that the vast majority of the cops who wouldn't do it would help their buddies who did get away with it.

The good ones cover for the bad ones. Which makes them bad, but not as bad.

And nazi germany was far worse in every way.
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It's not that they don't want to be as bad as Nazi Germany, but that they learned from Nazi mistakes, and have refined the methods to be integrated into a less overt implementation of the exact same principles. It's just more sneaky now. In this day and age, the gov't would provoke an insurrection (not to mention U.N. intervention) if they went around acting like Nazi Germany. It's beneficial to their aims, to dial it back a bit. Which is exactly what they've done.
 
Back to the Ebola,
I was watching the news about a guy taking a flight out of Africa.
Airport security asked him if he had any sickness and some other questions during his stay.
He said NO.
Basically it's an honor system and God knows how fast this could spread.

It is interesting why do we want to ship the two infected back to Texas.
A cure or a new bomb?
 
londonfog said:
I want Red to tell me the way he died. He said it was painless
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He swallowed a cyanide capsule and then shot himself in the head, so yeah, painless. No where near the pain and suffering he caused for millions of others. Why is it you want me to tell you? Is Google broken? Or are you one of those idiots who think everyone who suffers deserved it? Or just a plain old, run of the mill idiot?
 
schuylaar said:
typically ie; minimum wage, but in this case the benefit is from fed therefore, i believe argument will be just that.


it had been said from the beginning that if state wouldn't do it, fed would..money has already been earmarked for me.
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No, state do not supercede's fed. Apparently, you don't know what "minimum" means. Does any state have a minimum wage LESS than Federal?
No, and no, again. Your name appears on no Federal earmark.
 
schuylaar said:
i'm not worried a bit as it was monies ALREADY earmarked for my state and me.
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There were Medicaid funds earmark for the state, but none for you. The state declined to accept those funds and the gigantic financial loss that accompanied them.
 
reasonevangelist said:
It's not that they don't want to be as bad as Nazi Germany, but that they learned from Nazi mistakes, and have refined the methods to be integrated into a less overt implementation of the exact same principles. It's just more sneaky now. In this day and age, the gov't would provoke an insurrection (not to mention U.N. intervention) if they went around acting like Nazi Germany. It's beneficial to their aims, to dial it back a bit. Which is exactly what they've done.
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U.N. intervention is pretty much an empty threat.
 
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