Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

homebrewer

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joe macclennan said:
no pics of plants while in flower?
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I'm doing two tests right now, one in hydro and one in promix. The 'promix test' is being journaled at a private forum. The hydro test is is not being photographed, really for no reason other than I'm busy with other things. One of which is a breeding project. I'm currently searching through some Kali Mist x AK47 plants right now looking for a solid male. I think I found one.
 
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joe macclennan

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homebrewer said:
The hydro test is is not being photographed, really for no reason other than I'm busy with other things. .
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aren't we all.
How long does snapping a few pics take? Seriously not trying to flame you here but when you claim that grow nutes are producing comparable results to bloom nutes pics are in order to back this up.

No offense intended here HB I was really hoping to see some pics of your test.
 
blazedgeek

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Hey HB need some help.. Im in coco "dirt" im in bloom using bloom formula at 1 - 1.1 in week 3 of flower and noticing burnt tips and red petioles a sign of P def i think not because not really any light foliage.. Am i still feeding to strong my runoff ec matches whats going in or lower i feed everyday and some days if the ec goes up ill drop feeding down to .08 for a few days.. Thanks for the help and cant wait to see the results im sold on DG if i can just get the right feed goin
 

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joe macclennan said:
aren't we all.
How long does snapping a few pics take? Seriously not trying to flame you here but when you claim that grow nutes are producing comparable results to bloom nutes pics are in order to back this up.

No offense intended here HB I was really hoping to see some pics of your test.
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No offense but I actually don't need to back up shit. Even if I say that such-and-such works 'better' than what you're currently doing, it'd be wise for you to 'test' that on your own to make sure it works for you, your strains and your environment. Good luck!


blazedgeek said:
Hey HB need some help.. Im in coco "dirt" im in bloom using bloom formula at 1 - 1.1 in week 3 of flower and noticing burnt tips and red petioles a sign of P def i think not because not really any light foliage.. Am i still feeding to strong my runoff ec matches whats going in or lower i feed everyday and some days if the ec goes up ill drop feeding down to .08 for a few days.. Thanks for the help and cant wait to see the results im sold on DG if i can just get the right feed goin
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Honestly, I'd ditch the bloom and switch to grow or foliage pro for your bloom cycle. I'd also lower your EC to .7. It's hard to tell but I think that plant looks pretty good, don't over-think this, look at the health of the entire plant before making any elemental changes. But it's definitely safe to drop the bloom in coco.
 
chuck estevez

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I'm using foliage pro now and seeing spectacular results. Jacks 20-20-20 on the last run killed it. using the foliage pro at this point seems to have the edge, still a couple weeks from final results.
 
blazedgeek

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homebrewer said:
Foliage pro in dirt/coco/promix is damn hard to beat.
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Wait wwwwwhat! Damn and i just picked up a new bottle of bloom. HB thanks for the reply and im dropping down to .7ec and im seeing 1.-1.2 in coco is hella hot! HB hows the results going with the foliage pro? Same recs on ec leves for veg and bloom? Why the switch a more complete nutrient profile?
i do also remember somewhere in one of these journals that the Dyna guy was saying gro and foliage can get you through flower and that bloom was just created to pacify the public thinking you needed high Phos values in flower...?
hey HB what about using the Mag pro as a booster during weeks 3-5 varying like when people use a PK boost?
Its also crazy that .7 ec is more than enough here i was thinking 1.0 ec in coco was light but as soon as my runoff hits 1.0 ec i get leaf tip burn. It seems .7 is to light but is making sense i have been feeding to much and shows how strong Dyna gro is

Take it easy
 
homebrewer

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blazedgeek said:
Wait wwwwwhat! Damn and i just picked up a new bottle of bloom. HB thanks for the reply and im dropping down to .7ec and im seeing 1.-1.2 in coco is hella hot! HB hows the results going with the foliage pro? Same recs on ec leves for veg and bloom? Why the switch a more complete nutrient profile?
i do also remember somewhere in one of these journals that the Dyna guy was saying gro and foliage can get you through flower and that bloom was just created to pacify the public thinking you needed high Phos values in flower...?
hey HB what about using the Mag pro as a booster during weeks 3-5 varying like when people use a PK boost?
Its also crazy that .7 ec is more than enough here i was thinking 1.0 ec in coco was light but as soon as my runoff hits 1.0 ec i get leaf tip burn. It seems .7 is to light but is making sense i have been feeding to much and shows how strong Dyna gro is

Take it easy
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I was mixing grow and bloom for my promix plants and found that 'grow only' worked best from start to finish. Foliage pro is a great option too from start to finish. I don't use magpro in the dirt, I'd venture to say that as long as you have fairly balanced N, P and K values, a PK booster is the last thing you need. I do like magpro in hydro though.
 
blazedgeek

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homebrewer said:
I was mixing grow and bloom for my promix plants and found that 'grow only' worked best from start to finish. Foliage pro is a great option too from start to finish. I don't use magpro in the dirt, I'd venture to say that as long as you have fairly balanced N, P and K values, a PK booster is the last thing you need. I do like magpro in hydro though.
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Thanks HB so Gro has more than enough, .7ec falls under 5 ml per gal for me which seems like it wouldnt be enough but Dyna gro is no joke on strenghth. thanks again for your imformative journals as you have turned me into a dyna user and have taught me a lot. Im going even lighter in feed than what i thought was already light at 1 ec

thanks
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Oo S0uP oO

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HB, sorry ahead of time because Im sure its already in this thread somewhere but could you please give me a link to your foliage pro only grow I just wanna get some insight before I start my flood tables up and running. I really wanna get some great results out of this to blow some people away. Currently I use the grow,bloom and protekt with success (I still play around with additives I have laying around) I dont use the mag pro cause of the NPK values on it and if I wanted to add Mg I just add some epsom salts to my res The grow and bloom both seem to provide enough Ca by themselves (I never take it over 1000ppm with dyna gro) so... anyways thanks for the info if and when you can.~S0uP

Edit would also like a PM on the great white results if you have a chance as I was toying with adding ORCA in addition to my floralicious plus. Thanks again.
 
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Oo S0uP oO said:
HB, sorry ahead of time because Im sure its already in this thread somewhere but could you please give me a link to your foliage pro only grow I just wanna get some insight before I start my flood tables up and running. I really wanna get some great results out of this to blow some people away. Currently I use the grow,bloom and protekt with success (I still play around with additives I have laying around) I dont use the mag pro cause of the NPK values on it and if I wanted to add Mg I just add some epsom salts to my res The grow and bloom both seem to provide enough Ca by themselves (I never take it over 1000ppm with dyna gro) so... anyways thanks for the info if and when you can.~S0uP

Edit would also like a PM on the great white results if you have a chance as I was toying with adding ORCA in addition to my floralicious plus. Thanks again.
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My foliage pro test was at a private forum and it was in promix. As of now, grow, bloom and protekt are all that you need to kill it in hydro.
 
BudHound

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Homebrewer many thanks again for all the knowledge you have given us! I tried gro dan and had many success, but my concern was if it biodegrades easily? Trying to stay green! Read around that it does not. I have since switched to sunshine #4, but have not been able to get same results as with gro dan. Current setup is ebb and flow, 3gal smart pots, sunshine #4 without vermiculate as it is a recirculating botanicare table, PH 6.4-6.5. I only turn on the resvoir pumps when i start to notice dirt drying out. My feed is protek 2ml/gal, grow 1ml/gal, bloom 2ml/gal. I am tweaking it out still on how to adjust the FFW regimen. Any helpful input would be apprecaited as to what you may think. If memory serves me well you spoke in another topic that one can get away without water week if PPM's are kept at 350 or less? I'm using a .5 blue lab combo meter? Correct me if im wrong. I will post images later of this report on here to see how it turns out.
 
homebrewer

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BudHound said:
Homebrewer many thanks again for all the knowledge you have given us! I tried gro dan and had many success, but my concern was if it biodegrades easily? Trying to stay green! Read around that it does not. I have since switched to sunshine #4, but have not been able to get same results as with gro dan. Current setup is ebb and flow, 3gal smart pots, sunshine #4 without vermiculate as it is a recirculating botanicare table, PH 6.4-6.5. I only turn on the resvoir pumps when i start to notice dirt drying out. My feed is protek 2ml/gal, grow 1ml/gal, bloom 2ml/gal. I am tweaking it out still on how to adjust the FFW regimen. Any helpful input would be apprecaited as to what you may think. If memory serves me well you spoke in another topic that one can get away without water week if PPM's are kept at 350 or less? I'm using a .5 blue lab combo meter? Correct me if im wrong. I will post images later of this report on here to see how it turns out.
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I'm not a huge fan of bloom in promix.

As far as a feeding/watering schedule goes, I think you can go one of two ways. You can either feed higher less frequently or feed lower more often. The choice is yours, do what is easiest as both seem to get you to the same place in the end.
 
BudHound

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Cut out bloom as I started to notice nitro def even at 1ml per gal along with protek and bloom. I cut back bloom and just used 2-3ml protek and the rest grow to make up about 350ppm. I started to see vigorous compact bud growth within first week of switching cocktail nut mis. Hope this helps any dyna doubters! Here's an image. Still have about 4-6 weeks left as some are ogs and take longer to finish.
 

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Lucius Vorenus said:
you using the Bloom or Foliage Pro in bloom?
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This harvest was grown using rockwool cubes. I did use bloom along with protek, grow and sometimes id throw in some magpro. I always kept EC at 1.2 and last two weeks I bring down EC to about .8 or so on a bluelab meter and week before harvest I flush with Hygrozyme (not needed, can get way with just water!)
 
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joe macclennan

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been running gro for the first four weeks of flower along with 2ml of protekt and 2ml of magpro. Pretty happy with it so far. I am deff. getting a bit more stretch than with bloom nutes but far less leaf drop.

Just got some foliage pro. Gonna give it a try. I like how it has a bit more nitrogen. Should give me a little faster growth in veg.


Thanks for the idea homebrewer.
 
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