I just started experimenting with it in hydro and due to the higher amount of N, I've cut the EC back by 15%. So if you were using 'grow' at 1.0 EC, try .85EC with foliage pro. I'm still figuring some things out so if you have any input or discoveries, feel free to share.
I've not messed with high N pro, not sure if I will since foliage pro's 9-3-6 isn't too far off from 10-5-5.
I too am experimenting with Foliage Pro in Veg only and I don't see any zinc def so far. I don't use Mag-pro at all so far, this is in Veg only. However, with FP I have to use a lot less protekt to balance the PH and little less FP than I would with grow since it burns my leaves a slight. Just like what HB said 15% less EC with FP should do the trickThe only thing I can say with certainty is that I am really liking the results of running the 7-9-5 for the first 4 weeks of flower. I have been running a 30/70 mix of well water/ro that gets my ec to less than .4. I am going to go 100% ro starting next week.
This last rez. change I mixed in 25% 7-9-5 into my second stage rez in flower and made the balance up with 3-12-6.Next rez. change I will prob. go 50/50 bloom/grow for rez 2.
I have also been running 2ml/gallon magpro and 2ml/gallon protekt in flower and veg. Which I am suspecting is too much in relation to the foliage pro, and to a lesser extent the grow.
I am showing what seems to be a zinc def. in veg now. I am not 100% on this though as the symptoms don't EXACTLY match the pics I have found online. It seems that no matter where you look deff. symptoms up they all use the same stock photos.
This last rez. change I cut out the magpro entirely and cut my protekt in half in veg. I made the balance up with the 9-3-6. This was yesterday tho so I don't know if this was good or bad yet.
I should add that I am just coming out of a major fungus gnat infestation and I caught some root aphids before they got out of control.
I got rid of the aphids with an imid drench in veg. about three weeks ago and have been drenching with gnatrol 2x a week since for the gnats so some root damage is present on the older plants that I am sure is causing some of the symptoms I am seeing.
Some of the recently transplanted clones were also starting to show def. symptoms prior to my rez change yesterday though so I am wondering if using too much of the magpro was locking out zinc. As the magpro is super high in p. I am just guessing here tho.
The gnats are damn near gone and I haven't seen an aphid in two weeks. I have some of the best roots I have seen busting out of the 10" netpots my moms are in and overall things are looking better than a month ago but I am still experimenting some in veg with the fol. pro.
If the def. symptoms don't start clearing up in veg. I'm gonna go back to the 7-9-5 I think next time.
Anyways, sorry for the absurdly long post but that's my story.
I agree, use it properly and you'll be deficiency-free. Water plays a big role though as sometimes unbalanced water out of the tap can lead us to believe that something is wrong with our plant food.
in veg.
ive been searching your threads. Not sure if I missed this or not but I'm starting DIY ebb n flo using dyna gro grow , bloom, proteck. Can you help me out on a feeding schedule? I know it varies with strain to strain just need some base number to go off of and if I c it's on the high side ill make adjustments. My clones were started on Rockwell cubes and are now in 1 gal pots. Using tap water starting at 200ppm 8.0 ph. Currently under fluorescent for 2 week veg then to flower under 600whps. Currently top feeding as I'm not sure how many gal of a Rez I need. I was going to use a 30 gal barrel but it limits my height availability. Would I be ok with say a 20 gal Rubbermaid from homedepot?
Maybe. The size of your res is sort of dependent on the size of your flood table and the number of plants you're running.
The quote you quoted in your post is my 'schedule' for flower. Cut that back to .7 EC for veg and don't use bloom. Simple stuff!
best grows ever since ditching everything but the foliage pro. I don't even really p.h anymore. The only thing I have to worry about now is the little effers that show up every summer.
I'm currently testing Foliage Pro in hydro but in promix, both Grow and Foliage pro are vastly superior to Bloom. Thus far, combos of Grow and Bloom in hydro work best for me, that could change soon though.
Not sure id want that much nitrogen in my bloom nute.
Hydro and 'dirt' seem to behave differently as my promix girls need more N to stay green as compared to my plants in hydro. Yes, a couple years ago I was saying 1-3-2 was 'ideal' for hydro and to this date, I've not found a ratio that surpasses the results I get when feeding around a 1-3-2. But just because that ratio 'worked' for me back then doesn't mean it's the best approach and I'm always tweaking what I do to find the BEST way to do things. I'm in the middle of some stuff right now for hydro which should clear some things up.
I agree with you, the Grow makes a good base nutrient for flower. It is not good for veg, if you want to run dyna-gro then go with something else for veg, maybe the foilage pro. I didn't get to try foilage pro, my local shop only carries the grow and the bloom. I had to supplement the grow with a high nitrogen nute early in flower to prevent early yellowing.