Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)
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homebrewer
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I have no idea what my yields would be if I used a 1000. I actually don't like 1000s as I think they're best utilized in setups other than where the light is static and overhead. 1000s will also grow bigger flowers and I already need to watch out for mold in the headbuds grown with my 600s.
These concrete mixing tubs I use for flood tables are 2x3 I think so there is a pretty small footprint there. As you can see, there is no space between the plants at the canopy but the blocks are about 6 inches apart.
NaturalBornCarny
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Hey HB you say you run 9 plants under the 600w in your footprint? Is it just me or in a lot of your pics it looks like I only see 6? Just curious love your threads thanks for all your quality work
homebrewer
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...in promix.
NaturalBornCarny
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No with your 6 inch cubes in your flood tray.
homebrewer
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You counted correctly.
NaturalBornCarny
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Alas my eyes didn't deceive me. So are your hydro plants pulling the 20 ounces? I thought you said just over 2 ozs a plant but hell that could have been 2yrs ago when you originally posted. I read through your journals in the past 2 days so I may be confused.
NaturalBornCarny
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I have been growing for a while, mostly outdoor, and have had good success. My first indoor was great. In hindsight I realized I had some luck because after that I went through a span of bad genetics and over complicating things. Chicago is the closest I can go to a store for advice or just general browsing and is over 3 hrs away. I learned A LOT through trial and error. I have to say your threads, when they stay on track lol, have been very informative and reading your journals all at once I have seen your experience grow as well. Thanks and stay safe
homebrewer
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It's strain-dependent of course but it's pretty easy to land in the 18-21 ounce range in my hydro setup. In promix, 2-3 ounces per plant is average I suppose (18-24 ounces as a group) but I've been testing the use of more promix in the pots to see how that affects yields given the same amount of veg time and same plant height as they move into flower. In promix though, I never 'mono crop' as I'm not a cash cropper so it's not unusual to have 9 different strains under 1 light. My goal is not so much focused on yield as it is keeping the plants healthy and in their own space. My Kalis get tall and can sometime lean over two other plants if they're not tied up. I just pulled down some Ethiopian landrace that grew past my lights so again, this is a hobby for me that my patients benefit from. I'm interested in the science behind what we do, I'm always pushing the limits of quality and it's fun looking for those exotic strains that will rip you to the moon.
KrAzY80
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Ive ran just about everything AN has in soil and hydro and never hit above 20 ounce per 1000w light. I have also used tap, well and Ro and narrowed my problems done to one thing ( my nutes ). I never had a perfect run from start to finish and micro defeciencies in mid flower was the most common. Everytime I tried to correct them I would get N toxicity. The best results I had were when I supplemented magpro. I broke every bottle down in Canna stats and found alot of important elements were either missing or in abundance. Just my experience and I was hell bent on making AN work for 2 years but never could.
KrAzY80
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My intentions are not to bash AN and I havent tried the ph perfect line. I know to some 2 years experience isnt much but I invested alot of that time experimenting and ran perpetual and only used AN nutes. It did produce some nice end product and yield but not a healthy crop from start to finish. I think that bigger yields system is only comparing yield to their own lol. Why would they have a complete base and offer a shit ton of supplements? Thats where the marketing comes in.
HB do you use dyna grow for rooted clones and seedlings or a root stimulater or b vitamin supplement? Also would you recomend the aqua flakes or dyna for the most complete base with minimal need for supplements and ease of use?
HB do you use dyna grow for rooted clones and seedlings or a root stimulater or b vitamin supplement? Also would you recomend the aqua flakes or dyna for the most complete base with minimal need for supplements and ease of use?
homebrewer
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I 'use' clones from a mother that came from a regular serious seeds pack. Nothing against fem'd beans but I prefer regular beans.
I use DG from seed/clone to harvest. The only time I use any 'root products' are when I clone. I like KLN and Clonex.
DG is the best all around plant food, IMHO. Aqua Flakes did really, really well in hydro but I would not want to deal with a 2-part for promix growing. As far as AF being complete; I have no idea what elements are in those bottles as H&G labels their products one way, yet registers them as another. DG is upfront about what elements they are supplying which makes feeding plants very easy. If I need more N than P, I know which bottle to grab.
MaineWeed
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My AK stretched for just over 2 weeks..a lot the first then it slowed
homebrewer
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It doesn't stretch all that much in promix but it'll come close to doubling in height in hydro. Three weeks for the stretch maybe?
scooby419
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Just finished reading all 118 pages of this grow journal! Thanks HB for all the info in there! I have read your other journals and my notebook is filled with great notes to dial in my new hydro set up! Knowledgeable growers like yourself are a breath of fresh air in a world of useless/biased/unsubstantiated information! 
homebrewer
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It depends on your wattage.
Under 1000w ushio