Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)
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PCXV
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Homebrewer,
I'm an indoor soil Dyna Gro user with Foliage Pro, Bloom, Mag Pro, and Protekt. I've had problems with nitrogen deficiency early in bloom and was wondering if you could supply me a basic nutrient schedule for these products. I know you have success and instead of continuing to go back and forth on formulating the NPK ratios, I thought I would ask you. I use tap water mostly with a PH of 6.3-6.8, for flushing I use distilled water.
I will read through this thread to see if you have already supplied this information, but at 100 pages it's going to take a while.
I'm an indoor soil Dyna Gro user with Foliage Pro, Bloom, Mag Pro, and Protekt. I've had problems with nitrogen deficiency early in bloom and was wondering if you could supply me a basic nutrient schedule for these products. I know you have success and instead of continuing to go back and forth on formulating the NPK ratios, I thought I would ask you. I use tap water mostly with a PH of 6.3-6.8, for flushing I use distilled water.
I will read through this thread to see if you have already supplied this information, but at 100 pages it's going to take a while.
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homebrewer
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They really are stupid simple formulas to use and that fact comes with no compromises. Glad the garden is doing well over there!
homebrewer
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Read through the last 20, I'm sure you'll find your answer.
PCXV
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I've read through the first 40 and the last 20, and I have found a lot of useful information. I also want to know if I should order a TDS meter (http://www.tdsmeter.com/products/tds4.html) or an EC tester (http://www.tdsmeter.com/products/ec3.html)? What do you use? When you say 1.2 EC is that the same as 1.2 µS/cm?
Also, how many times do you flush soil with DG? I've heard once before bloom, once halfway through bloom, and once at the end of bloom to flush with 6-10 gallons of water to remove salt build up. I assume you add nutrients after the flush. Do you recommend this?
Unti I get a meter I suppose I won't know for sure, but judging from the info I've gathered from this thread so far, how does this feeding schedule look in your opinion?
2ml Foliage Pro, 1ml Protekt *Veg week 3-5
3ml Foliage Pro, 1ml Protekt *Veg week 6-7
2ml Foliage Pro, 1ml Mag Pro, 2ml Protekt *Veg week 8 + Bloom week 1-2
1ml Foliage Pro, 2ml Bloom, 2ml Protekt *Bloom week 3-4
1ml Foliage Pro, 2ml Bloom, 1ml Mag-Pro, 2ml Protekt *Bloom week 5-6
1ml Foliage Pro, 2ml Bloom, 2ml Mag-Pro, 2ml Protekt *Bloom week 7-8
2ml Bloom *Bloom week 9-10
Thanks for your time, I know you've answered a lot of the same questions in this thread so I don't want to grind your gears, just can't pass up getting information from a trustworthy source.
SamsonsRiddle
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You're making this too hard on yourself. If you're in soil, only use foliage pro and protekt all the way through. don't worry about bloom or mag pro in containers.
If you are feeding at a good level (which means you aren't burning the shit out of your plants by "pushing them to their limits"), then you don't need to flush at all. You will want to reduce your nutrients during the last couple weeks, but flushing is something people do who have messed up and you shouldn't be planning on that
You want an ec or ppm meter. EC is a universal number. For example: .5 ec is .5 ec is .5 ec. However, .5 ec can be 250 ppm or 350 ppm depending on the scale you are on. I recommend ec, which will make it easier to know exactly what you're saying when you say it without too much math.
Here's a simple conversion chart: http://www.dutchmaster.com.au/?language=english&page=growers_guide&topic=ppm_ec_cf_conversion
http://www.dutchmaster.com.au/?language=english&page=growers_guide&topic=ppm_ec_cf_conversion
A simple feeding schedule would be like this:
1ml protekt - 2ml foliage pro during veg
.5ml protekt - 4 ml foliage pro during flower
PCXV
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Samson, thanks for the info on EC vs PPM. I value your input but would also like to hear from Homebrewer as he has stressed the advantage of a 1-3-2 NPK ratio in bloom. What my schedule above does is start at 3-1-2 in veg, and then use 1-1-1 to transition to 1-3-2. Veg has been easy, it's going into bloom that has been tough and I think your plan would help my plant stay green but how would the low P values affect flowering and bud production?
Resinhound
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High p bloom formulas are basically Bullshit, cannabis actually has a greater need for potassium during bloom than phosphorus.
3-1-2 works great all the way through the grow
PCXV
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Resinhound, I'm actually leaning towards that line of logic based on my very limited experience, but it is a tough picking out the truth from what are seemingly contrary opinions. Just to clarify, you are suggesting there is no benefit or reason to use Bloom or Mag-Pro throughout any stage of flowering?
Resinhound
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If you are in soil or any kind of soilless medium foliage pro works great all the way through, the only thing I would add in flower is some type of potassium... Most people would say protekt, but I prefer plain old potassium sulfate.
But ya absolutely no need for a high p formula whatsoever.
The ceo of dynagro has said the same thing as well... There are high p formulas because people asked for them because they think they are needed, in truth, they aren't at all.
homebrewer
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These guys are saying the same things that I'd have said to you. Foliage pro from start to finish will do you well.
koda7225
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Why cant i see pictures?One thing I want to point out is the difference between DynaGro and Connoisseur even at 2 weeks into flower. The first picture is DynaGro at day 15, the second is Connoisseur at day 14 (same picture as above). I'll let you decide who has the advantage.
DynaGro day 15....
Connoisseur day 14...
Jason9922
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Not seeing any pictures or videos
koda7225
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None just where they should be with a big red X
homebrewer
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The site where they were originally posted reformatted and the pics were lost. I still have them somewhere.
koda7225
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Id like to see the final outcome, i am just switching to dyna-gro this time around...
Curious as to what you have found to be the best ratio (or simple for me ml/gal of gro and bloow and protekt) for grow and bloom, i know its in the thread somewhere but i keep missing it with all the offshoots to other things in the thread
koda7225
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Oh that would be in a recirculating system fyi
homebrewer
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The results are on page 25.
koda7225
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If you can dig up the pics would you message me?