dying during flowering :(

1/3 of my plants in the same system is looking like its not going to make it another week,
can anyone tell me what they think is going wrong here - this is my first time in hydro and the system is outside.

We had crazy wind last week which beat them up real good and the plant that doesnt look so great is now even worse than it was.

one photo is of a healthier looking plant next to the troubled one.

looking for some much needed guidance.

Thanks all.

Looks like pretty dark roots.

Why is water so foamy

in the system are as follows


organica nutes
epson salts
good bacteria
mag cal
ph down
molasses sugar

im not sure why its so foamy but it just gets like that.. im going to change out the water today but wanted to show you guys first.

Ok, no clue then with yer own makeshift nutes and stuff.

Good luck

If I was in that foamy ass water Id prolly die too.

hivealive said:

molasses sugar

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why?
molasses feeds microbes in soil, not water.

are these outdoors? spider mites maybe.

root rot maybe?

i was advised on here to add the molasses to feed the good bacteria..

yes its foamy i dont know why. its my first hydro grow :/

hivealive said:

i was advised on here to add the molasses to feed the good bacteria..

yes its foamy i dont know why. its my first hydro grow :/

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not sure who advised you but trying to run organics in dwc in your first grow is not what i would advise.

not that it can't be done but synthetic nutes would be much easier.

rkymtnman said:

not sure who advised you but trying to run organics in dwc in your first grow is not what i would advise.

not that it can't be done but synthetic nutes would be much easier.

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thanks for the advice on that.. so despite what the bottle says its not good for hydro :/ ive learn alot from this first grow thats for sure..

im going to change the water and scrub the tubs now..

rkymtnman said:

why?
molasses feeds microbes in soil, not water.

are these outdoors? spider mites maybe.

root rot maybe?

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i dont see any mites which is good, im guessing its some sort of root issue but was hoping someone on here would provide some concrete solution as to whats causing it.. im slowly understanding things arent always straightfrward in this area of growing!

Thanks for the reply

hivealive said:

i dont see any mites which is good

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you can't see them with a naked eye. did you use some type of magnifier?

can you get different nutes?

and what good bacteria are you using?

SpawnOfShulgin said:

If I was in that foamy ass water Id prolly die too.

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HAHA! Man! once someone told me the ocean was foamy and salty because whales mate like wild animals

hivealive said:

im guessing its some sort of root issue but was hoping someone on here would provide some concrete solution as to whats causing it.

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With your self designed nutes it's impossible to really know why.

As mentioned start with a normal regimen of nutes and we can asses the issues

Humidity in the area may be high - check your PH also.

The leaves rotting and curling look like my pumpkins when they are too humid. My guess is that your mixutre of nutrients is effecting the level of PH and you are ading in more PH DOWN which is locking out key nutrients that are needed to flower

also maybe remove the epsoma solts

Reduce ur nutrient formula to 1/2 strength/ take out the salts and PH DOWN - stop adding good bacteria !! only once every two weeks

The lime green is probably from the PH locking out the CAL MAG! but liek stated above ur home made recipe is hard to correct

mistergrafik said:

The leaves rotting and curling look like my pumpkins when they are too humid. My guess is that your mixutre of nutrients is effecting the level of PH and you are ading in more PH DOWN which is locking out key nutrients that are needed to flower

also maybe remove the epsoma solts

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thats exactly what im having to do...

i bought some dutch pro A and B with the Boost today, took out the epson salts and added a little peroxide to the mix with a small amout of ph down which has me at 6.1 - i am waiting until tomorrow to see if the ph shifts any lower...

i also flushed the system with clean water twice and wiped the buckets i had access to.

already the plants are lifted so fingers crossed! thanks alot for this advice!

hivealive said:

thats exactly what im having to do...

i bought some dutch pro A and B with the Boost today, took out the epson salts and added a little peroxide to the mix with a small amout of ph down which has me at 6.1 - i am waiting until tomorrow to see if the ph shifts any lower...

i also flushed the system with clean water twice and wiped the buckets i had access to.

already the plants are lifted so fingers crossed! thanks alot for this advice!

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well done. you'll make life much easier with "normal" nutes.

what ppm/EC are you at? and what is your water temps ? if you did have rot, the peroxide will kill it. but it will use up the peroxide quickly too. are any of the roots falling off in the res yet?

no they are not falling apart, what i think the issue was, is that i had some additional herbs in the same system from the very beginning..
basil, corriander, parsley and such, that was a big mistake as they are the reason why i am having root issues now i believe..

i will check water temps tomorrow but it is getting a bit colder this week... before temps were between 18 and 21 degrees.

i do not have a meter for ppms etc. how essential is it i get one of those?

thanks alot for your help its really appreciated