DWC Lowryder - Attitude Seed Bank

Im not sure but yellowing usually is a nitrogen deficiency are you giving them nitro?

Hey green, those look like the same ones I have. A couple more of those would be good. You could add a couple more as the plants grow you don't need to get them all right away. The nice thing about these is they don't put out much heat and you can put them in a cabinet or something and keep them out of site. The yellowing looks like burn to me but can't say for sure. But that was one problem I was having, seeing something like that and thinking it needed something. I've found that burn does not always look the same. Deff not an oxygen problem. Even though I let my pumps run when the lights were off I know you don't have to. Low oxygen would show up as a leaf wilting not changing color. See how the tips are browning, that makes me think it's burn. Where do you have it, about 1700 ppm? Late for work, better get dressed and go.

At the point that you are at in flower, your fan leaves turning yellow is perfectly normal.

The buds are sucking up all the food from the leaves!

You could give it a dose of nitrogen, but you don't need to.

I dont have any nitrogen or any way to give it nitrogen... Im going to get my system setup so the timmer is on the light only and not the fan or air pump. My ppms are around 1700 or 1600.. ill try to cut back a bit and see if that helps any... if its the buds suckin the life out of the leafes then thats cool.. its only happening to some leaves spratically on my plant...

I quick dried a bud and smoked it last night... it barley got me high.. hopefully its because i picked early and its the lower buds.. im sure the main cola which is getting massive is going to be better.. i hope... ill be gettin the cfl thing setup sometime this week

theres nitrogen in fox farms grow big and in most nutes its that in flower they need less the bottle of nutes tells you what amount your putting its the 3 numbers on the bottle of the bottle the n-p-k ratio tiger bloom(2-8-4) and big bloom(0.01-0.03-0.07) have very low amounts of nitrogen grow big has 6-4-4

IMO it's to early for the leaves to be turning yellow. But I could be wrong. They are not just turning yellow, they are brown on the tips, edges and spots on the leaves. Looks like burn. A couple day's of plain water wouldn't hurt. That's been my biggest problem so far though, burning them. And an N deficiency should be the lowest leaves I would think. That Cha-ching is some pretty strong stuff, go easy with it. Check out this thread:https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/158144-never-ending-abuse-phosphorous-bloom.html

I did a partial res change... i took a few cups of water out of the res.. poured some grow big in.. poured the last 1/2 gallon of distilled water in the res.. checked the ppm... fuck 2400 ppms lol.. i screwed up so i took a few more cups res water out... poured some tap water in there.. checked the ppm fuck 2100 lol... so i took the whole damn bucket of water to the bathtub dumped 3/4 of it out.. filled it with water.. and fuck... it worked lol my ppm is now floating a little under 1000 and ill leave it like this for a while

i had some yellowing of the bottom leaves for that past month.. nothing big... but it wasnt till i got the 400 hps, started using major doses of cha ching, and cut the grow big out of the equation completely ... thats when the leaves started yellowing towards the top... and now there gettin big black dark circles on the yellow leaves... the res change should clear all issues up

greenearth5 said:

I dont have any nitrogen or any way to give it nitrogen... Im going to get my system setup so the timmer is on the light only and not the fan or air pump. My ppms are around 1700 or 1600.. ill try to cut back a bit and see if that helps any... if its the buds suckin the life out of the leafes then thats cool.. its only happening to some leaves spratically on my plant...

I quick dried a bud and smoked it last night... it barley got me high.. hopefully its because i picked early and its the lower buds.. im sure the main cola which is getting massive is going to be better.. i hope... ill be gettin the cfl thing setup sometime this week

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Your air pumps need to be running 24/7!!!

I switched my equipment around so the light is the only thing on the timer... the fan and air pump will be on 24/7 now

greenearth5 said:

sweet dude.. i posted in your journal but its not much.. im not much of a typer but more of a picture reader haha... if i got 3 oz off this plant i would be totally satisfied.. ill weight what i got off these lower branches after a few days or maybe even tomorrow... since you have experience growin lowriders can you give me any advise how to 100% make sure my next batch of lowriders dont grow very tall.. i dont mind if they are wide so long as they arent tall... im considering the cfl vegging or getting a mh to veg with.. prob wont do soil just yet but rather stick them in a small tub for another DWC grow

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MH is ideal for keeping the plant short and node spacing tight. But in an absense of a MH, just use cfls in the daylight spectrum. Lot's of em though. You'll only use this type of light fixture for about 2.5 weeks (until you can see sex). Then it's HPS time.

Feel free to LST lowryders as well. Just no topping or fim'ing. They're veg cycle is too short for the high stress training methods.

Also, and this is still theory as I haven't done it enough to prove it but, try to find a shorter rez. Let me explain a bit, say you have a 5 gallon paint bucket that you'll use for the DWC rez...and on the other hand you have a 5 gallon storage tote that's shorter that you can use as well....

With the taller rez, the roots don't meet any "resistance" in their growth until they hit the bottom of that bucket, probably a few weeks in. I theorize that this results in a rather explosive growth phase in those deeper DWC that result in taller plants.

Whereas the shorter 5-gallon rez plant meets vertical resistance much quicker, thereby slowing the vertical height. The DWC that I used was about 4"-5" tall (3 gallon rez) and was modeled after Diggity's DIY tote (you da man Diggity ). She still got over a foot tall, but it was managable.

But obviously lighting and the height of the lighting are probably the 2 most important factors in managing the height of these strains.

And yes, keep the air pumps runnin 24/7. Mo bubbles = Mo betta bud + Mo bud

Saw that you mentioned adding tap water to the rez to lower the ppm in case of nute burn. Did it sit out for 24 hours to let the chlorine evaporate off or did you add it direct from the tap. Not sure but I think that could cause some dischord in the system and the plant.

Thanks for checkin in on my journal boss.

-Butters

Don't worry about chlorine, people! Simply pouring the water from the tap to whatever container releases 90% of the chlorine into the air. It is nothing to worry about. I always pour my water from the sink, mix in my nutes, correct the pH and then fill 'er up.

I have had zero problems from chlorine.

diggitydank420 said:

Don't worry about chlorine, people! Simply pouring the water from the tap to whatever container releases 90% of the chlorine into the air. It is nothing to worry about. I always pour my water from the sink, mix in my nutes, correct the pH and then fill 'er up.

I have had zero problems from chlorine.

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Ty Diggity.

diggitydank420 said:

Don't worry about chlorine, people! Simply pouring the water from the tap to whatever container releases 90% of the chlorine into the air. It is nothing to worry about. I always pour my water from the sink, mix in my nutes, correct the pH and then fill 'er up.

I have had zero problems from chlorine.

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That's ok as long as your not using any beneficial bacteria's because you will probably kill them.

I do believe the reason you see faster growth with the taller containers is because you end up with more of the root system in the air and not in the water. Allowing much more oxygen to the root zone. It's the same theory behind an NTF system and how it works. That is the type of system I use when I do hydro/aero.
http://www.simplyhydro.com/system.htm

Hash Lover said:

That's ok as long as your not using any beneficial bacteria's because you will probably kill them.

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No organic ferts in my garden.

well guys... shes dead.. dead as a freakin door knob... i wont go into much details but lets say my x girlfriend was really pissed last night and the plant came tumbling down.. its dead... ive salvaged some buds but they are way way way premature and prob worthless .... they are green with barley a hint of the hairs turning red.... why couldnt she wait 3 weeks to pull this shit ***shakes head in disgust

Dude!!! Man that sucks!! That"s one of the problems with this stuff, you can't piss anyone off that knows. Now I feel bad posting pics of my new light up. Was just going to download them and post. I guess I will anyway I figure you will want to see them. Was it the one from the pics that you posted before?

Well her it is. I don't have the second ballast yet but should have it early next week. At least the hard part is done and I'll just have to mount the ballast and plug it in when it comes. So what's your plans now for growing? Going to have to wait?

It was a strange and unpredictable circumstnace... but its over for now.. hopefully for good... i did salvage the bud and its hanging but its probably no good at all.. its 99% green and 1% red hair... so its prob freakin junk but ill cure it and see if it does anything

For the next grow.. i just started to germ 7 lowrider seeds... i dont know which method i will use to grow it but if you have suggestions then plz let me know asap... i am either goin to get some dirt and grow in soil or ill grow in some tub that i have lieing around... whichever i decide i want to make sure these lowryders grow short as heck.... also i went and got some Y light bulb plugs so i can throw some cfls up... which cfls do i need? I went to the store and there were alot to choose from and i didnt know what is what... so alls i need are some cfls for early veg.. maybe a 400 MH for later veg.. and then i can throw them under my 400HPS for flowering... unless i can veg them under cfls sucessfully all the way....

Hash.. should i do dirt or hydro with these lowryders... also should i veg under cfls only or cfls early on and MH later on in veg...

Peace love and chicken grease people