Dwc Grow Club

Yea I thought he showed us some pix of a tub with some seedlings in it.

I like lizzard. I think he might have some type of tourettes tho. Lmao.
I have typing tourettes.

Typing tourettes?!?! hahah how does that work.

I kinda just blurt out things typingly

Pirate I think we have a prospective member that needs some girl Grow Club finesse.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/142537-all-about-size-rockwood.html

I have made a bracket to support my new bulb on the unsupported end.I think i have given up on digi cams,with two paperweights worth almost $800.I may break down and get a cheap one just for this.OPH

netpirate said:

Good info about the CFL's. Hopefully you get some pics up so we can all check it out!

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net, they're beautiful. how long into 12's is the jenna haze top? mine are almost 2 weeks and hairy as hell, but nothing really cool is happening at the top yet. about the air curtains, i bought one for my next grow and hooked it up in my tub, they're pertty cool. i'm gonna run a 24 inch down the middle of my tub in an s-shape. that's why i was thinking the stronger pump. i've already got a 30 gallon one from walmart i use in my AG.

both plants are 4wks in 12

onthedl0008 said:

Pirate I think we have a prospective member that needs some girl Grow Club finesse.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/142537-all-about-size-rockwood.html

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she is so cute!

Ok just updated Grow Plan with topics on lighting:

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Just thought id share my happiness with the club! Updated pixels of my clones in the tub. 4 days after transplant to the tub...... Damn this is sick!

Anyone just starting out or are interested in DWC should check this out.DWC for beginners

Grow room Design=Lighting.
An experiment conducted to show the effects of different lighting used during the different stages of growth. Newbie answers to lighting: HPSvsCFL During Flower = Quantity and Quality

Also how to design lighting set-ups for individual grows.
Total reccomended watts/sq.ft. Is 50



Heres a very simple way to get started in DWC> DIY HYDRO.DWC= Build ur own.Easiest method of HYDRO simple,inexpensive and easy.
Keep in mind U can replace the tub with a bucket and get a cheapy Air pump with stone for 20 bux less.

On Edit: Heres a simple way people can clone in DWC> Cloning in a cup of water.

Great post!

Hey onthedl,

I dont mean to hijack but.................. I was hoping you could help me with my clone issue. I have be reading alot of your posts and threads like this one and "DWC for beginners" and was hoping you could help. I am using rockwool to clone and am having no success. I am doing everything by the book.

For Light: 4 24Inch Floros 20Watt.(3 of them 5000k and 1 3500k)
Constant temp: 77F
Constant Humidity: 98%
Clonex Rooting gel
Clonex rooting solution used in rockwool soak for 24hours
45 degree cut and then quickly dip into rooting gel.
then the outer "skin" shaved carfully. but only after i have dipped to avoid air from entering stem
Once completed they go directly into the RW

The clones are in a 10X20 tray with a 7inch humidity dome. I lined the bottom with perlite for help with humidity. The temps stay constant and there doesnt seem to be a need for my heatmat. The lights are right above the dome. which is creating the heat. Could this be too much light?

The Problem: Every clone about 3 hours after put into the tray fall over after a ay or two some of them straightened up but some stayed bent. After about 6-7 days most of the Stems turned dark purple and the leaves a mild yellow, starting at the tips and working back. (Damping-off maybe?) After about 11 days I pulled one of the clones to see if there were and roots and............ nope. I am hoping it is not the strain (Kush Hybrid from GHS) because it is an amazing girl.

I am interested im building a DIY EZ-Cloner but havent seen any of them with a Humidity dome. I would assume that unless you can keep the enviorment at 80% humidity or above they will die for sure. I need a humidity dome or it will drop to the 30's

Thanks in advance for your help and appologize for being so long winded

Pe@cE

Hydrokronics said:

Hey onthedl,

I dont mean to hijack but.................. I was hoping you could help me with my clone issue. I have be reading alot of your posts and threads like this one and "DWC for beginners" and was hoping you could help. I am using rockwool to clone and am having no success. I am doing everything by the book.

For Light: 4 24Inch Floros 20Watt.(3 of them 5000k and 1 3500k)
Constant temp: 77F
Constant Humidity: 98%
Clonex Rooting gel
Clonex rooting solution used in rockwool soak for 24hours
45 degree cut and then quickly dip into rooting gel.
then the outer "skin" shaved carfully. but only after i have dipped to avoid air from entering stem
Once completed they go directly into the RW

The clones are in a 10X20 tray with a 7inch humidity dome. I lined the bottom with perlite for help with humidity. The temps stay constant and there doesnt seem to be a need for my heatmat. The lights are right above the dome. which is creating the heat. Could this be too much light?

The Problem: Every clone about 3 hours after put into the tray fall over after a ay or two some of them straightened up but some stayed bent. After about 6-7 days most of the Stems turned dark purple and the leaves a mild yellow, starting at the tips and working back. (Damping-off maybe?) After about 11 days I pulled one of the clones to see if there were and roots and............ nope. I am hoping it is not the strain (Kush Hybrid from GHS) because it is an amazing girl.

I am interested im building a DIY EZ-Cloner but havent seen any of them with a Humidity dome. I would assume that unless you can keep the enviorment at 80% humidity or above they will die for sure. I need a humidity dome or it will drop to the 30's

Thanks in advance for your help and appologize for being so long winded

Pe@cE

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Bro. Check out the last to posts i posted earlier today in the thread im not done yet but heres the first.
Originally Posted by onthedl0008
U dont have to water from the top as long as U place ur water level @ or a lil above the bottom of the pot. I have 4 8 inch stones in mine on 2 pumps. Bubble penetration forces plenty enuff water up into the rock and keeps it "moist" Not WET. They will look damp.
Ive told people in the past to take it easy on the water until they get a feel for it. I suggest sometimes to water from the top only to help people out in not damaging or prolonging seedlings and clones.THey like air at this stage.

Once my Roots pop out and begin growing down or into the water I back my water off to 1/2 inch below the pots.
I begin feeding when they hit the water.

I do not place my clones in the cup in the dark. Never had to. They get placed directly on the side of the mom right after the Cut,Scrape, And dip process.
However, I just attemted a method of another grower here using upside down peat plugs.A nursery tray, A horticultural heat mat and a dome and acquired 100% success. The clones in the dome OLD in the ways style actually cloned quicker.Im addopting his method to keep my tubs full. This method does require 12 hrs of darkness before hitting lights and u dont dome them or place them on the mat until they are ready for light.
I would suggest anyone tho, To get a lil practice with the cup first, Learn what to expect and get some confidence in cloning before trying a more difficult Method.

In the end its all really simple. I used to make it alot harder than it should be.
Hope that helps bro.

And it not a problem we all goof of alot but we are all here to help.

CocoTek Coconut Coir Brick Organic Growing Media
CocoTek coconut brick is a compressed brick of low sodium coconut coir. Growers are encouraged to mix CocoTek Organic Growing Medium with an equal amount of Hydroton (clay pellets), or combined with other hydroponic media in various proportions. Our new highly-compressed and improved brick absorbs moisture more quickly, giving users the same amount of coir as our previous larger sized brick after expansion. CocoTek makes messy brick separation unnecessary. Just drop CocoTek in approximately one gallon of fresh water or light nutrient solution and allow it to expand to approximately 1/3 of a cubic foot of CocoTek coir. Try this brick and you'll be astounded!
Compressed bricks of ground coconut fiber. Add one brick to about two gallons of water and the brick breaks apart to make a good growing media for plants. The mix can be added to Hydroton to increase moisture retention in non-re-circulating systems or used to fill 10x20 tray inserts for propagation. This is a major step forward in hydroponic media technology. This is the first "organic" medium which offers top-performance in modern hydroponic applications. Coconut fiber offers many unique advantages - it maintains a larger oxygen capacity than the finest rockwool. It offers superior water holding capacity to rockwool, a real advantage for intermittent irrigation systems. Coconut fiber is not a biohazard or disposal problem like rockwool - it is completely natural and not environmentally aggressive as rockwool is. Coconut fiber contains organic compounds which other hydroponic media lack. When coconuts float around in the oceans for months they are still able to sprout roots upon becoming beached - extraordinary natural chemistry - very high in rooting hormones. Coconut fiber also offers a measure of protection against root diseases including fungus infestation. Coconut fiber is a completely renewable resource, unlike peat moss which is rapidly becoming depleted from overuse. Dutch growers are finding that by blending a mix of 50% coconut fiber with 50% Grorox clay pebbles they achieve the perfect organic-hydroponic media. This blend is rapidly gaining favor with the biggest Dutch growers when used in Dutch Pots - a simple but powerful technology. One note of caution; there is a lower grade of coconut fiber which can lead to disappointing results when used for hydroponic cultivation - coconut fiber which is high in sodium (sea salt), and which is very fine grained lowering the oxygen content within the fiber when irrigated. This lower grade of coconut fiber is becoming more and more available at garden supply shops and is fine when blended with good potting soil - not so good for hydroponics. We only offer the finest grade of coconut fiber, in fact the fiber we sell is the only coconut fiber which can be used in Holland by commercial growers who purchase crop protection insurance - Yes, believe it or not, the big growers will buy insurance to protect their enterprises against crop failure - a million dollar loss could financially ruin commercial growers and they have learned the hard way that insurance is a good investment - we only offer the coconut fiber and Grorox that the Dutch growers use.

do you use that pirate? i've been thinking about using it, but havent really found any reviews yet

I used it and now SWEAR BY IT!

Hydrokronics said:

Hey onthedl,

I dont mean to hijack but.................. I was hoping you could help me with my clone issue. I have be reading alot of your posts and threads like this one and "DWC for beginners" and was hoping you could help. I am using rockwool to clone and am having no success. I am doing everything by the book.

For Light: 4 24Inch Floros 20Watt.(3 of them 5000k and 1 3500k)
Constant temp: 77F
Constant Humidity: 98%
Clonex Rooting gel
Clonex rooting solution used in rockwool soak for 24hours
45 degree cut and then quickly dip into rooting gel.
then the outer "skin" shaved carfully. but only after i have dipped to avoid air from entering stem
Once completed they go directly into the RW

The clones are in a 10X20 tray with a 7inch humidity dome. I lined the bottom with perlite for help with humidity. The temps stay constant and there doesnt seem to be a need for my heatmat. The lights are right above the dome. which is creating the heat. Could this be too much light?

The Problem: Every clone about 3 hours after put into the tray fall over after a ay or two some of them straightened up but some stayed bent. After about 6-7 days most of the Stems turned dark purple and the leaves a mild yellow, starting at the tips and working back. (Damping-off maybe?) After about 11 days I pulled one of the clones to see if there were and roots and............ nope. I am hoping it is not the strain (Kush Hybrid from GHS) because it is an amazing girl.

I am interested im building a DIY EZ-Cloner but havent seen any of them with a Humidity dome. I would assume that unless you can keep the enviorment at 80% humidity or above they will die for sure. I need a humidity dome or it will drop to the 30's

Thanks in advance for your help and appologize for being so long winded

Pe@cE

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bro heres the last post explaining my exact cloning procedures and everything i do in the room. Copy this i can ensure u success with cloning. Ive listed all the tools and can help if u have specific questions regarding these methods of cloning.
Originally Posted by SlowToker
Thank for the info, I have read "Oldintheway"s methode as well as Al B.
Looked to me you had a little different and easy way there.
I'm a newby water guy yet old fart at durt farming. Hydro is a very interresting thing for me. I have a RN tub 18gallons and two 6 inch stones. Guess I need two more stones and another pump. I miss the part where the water is to bubble to the point of splashing up to the stones.
But ya live, read, farm & learn!

Peace
Bro I also grew in soil for awhile before switching over to DWC. The biggest reward comes during VEG time I think. Its like putting a super charger on ur car. I still have a plant flowering from my last grow at this moment.I harvested my DWC plants a lil over 2 weeks ago and im already smoking out on the harvest.

Yes the clone in a cup method is the simpleist.Cut @ a 45 degree angle set direclty in a cup of water. Move to the scrape spot.Take the clone and lightly remove the outside layer of "skin" over the bottom 1/2 of the stalk.Dip in cloning solution of ur choice. im using superthrive.dip for 30 seconds.I place in a small plastic cup cut to size to fit " hold up" the fan leaves.My clones are bigger now so i dont have to cut the cup.
I put only enuff water in the cup to cover the stalk i scraped.About a half inch to an inch and just change and refill it daily. Im getting clones in a week this way.

What ive done with OLD in the ways method.
I flip my plugs over. Use a shishkabob skewer and place my own small whole in it. I take my clones the same way for the cup. After i cut i put them in water and get set-up to scrape,dip and place in the plug.
I used superthrive this time.
Each cutting I get in the plug goes directly into the tray. And then i take the next and repeat the process.
It took me prolly a half hour to do my first 4 hah.
I just did 10 this way in about the same amount of time.
From There this time i went with 6 hours of dark.Then on the mat and under the dome.I think the trick is just making sure u cut,scrape, dip and place in plug the proper way.
I used a small aquatic cool blue aquatics lamp both times.Directly over the top of the dome. I cracked the dome Twice a day.To water with 5-10 ml of water each time.
I got roots this way in 4 days.It took the other 2 another day to catch up.

Hope that helps. Thats my entire cloning process right there.
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Its awesome and maintains moisture for days and keeps your ph well balanced... its ORGANIC AS WELL!!

netpirate said:

I used it and now SWEAR BY IT!

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what form do you get it in? those little cubes or the bricks that you break up yourself? is it re-useable? i think this is what i'm going to use. i'm biding my time and saving my money, buying one component at a time so i can afford to spend a little more and try to get a little better quality stuff. the light is my next purchase. i'm trying to find a good digital ballast for cheap on ebay or craigslist. what kind of light(s) do you use?

Im currently using the brick form. It is not reusable BUT your root ball will thank you for it! Also when you add the water to the brick, it expands and all you need is just a healthy pinch of it, then you can bag the rest and save it for later grows!!!!!

Im running 3- 6500k's, 2- 2700k's and one 70w HPS lamp. I wish i had more though. But this will do for now.

Also I must add that the cocotek has a very unique drainage. Unlike the rockwool, cocotek will drain most of the excess water. You cant really go wrong with the tek!