DWC Bubbler Grow (4 plants)

Starting a little late but here's a quick catch up starting at with plants about 10 days old. As you'll see, they were looking a little droopy, so I added an additional 2 valve pump so each plant has its own airstone. These pics are from about 11/15.

14 days old - These pics are from 11/17 after I'd lowered the nutes (think they were too high along with not getting enough air before). Did a flush with Clearex, let the system run on fresh R/O water for half a day. Then started back up with 1/4 strength Botanicare nutes.

System:

Mandala Seeds - 1 Hashberry / 3 Satori

Growbox approx. 2.5 x 2.5 x 5

Sunlight Supply System 2 - 250 Watt Ballast / Cool Glass

270 Watt Super Agro Lamp (20 Watts of Blue lighting)

Two 7 gallon rubbermaid storage bins

150mm case fan exhaust line hooked to hood

90mm case fan intake line

Botanicare Nutes (Pro Grow, Liquid Karma, Hydroguard, Cal Mag, Sweet)

3 Air pumps - 1 dual valve rated for 100 gallons / 2 single valve Petsmart standards

Circulating Fan

16 days olds - Here are pics from 11/19. Nutes are up to about 1/3 strength. Ph is between 5.7 - 5.8 (digital PH pen) and PPMs are about 450ish (digital TDS pen).

K, now we're up to date. Just topped (FIM'ed actually) all 4 plants last night and put the SCROG screen in. More pics will be taken shortly and posted soon!

Tank change this weekend and nutes will be brought up to 1/2 strength.

Any thoughts, questions, or insight is welcome and appreciated.

Day 18 - As promised, here are some pics with a new SCROG screen now in place. Satori 3 looks like it will be the first on to try to poke through. That bitch will be getting pulled back soon while waiting for the others, especially Ms. Hashberry, to catch up. Also shown is a pathetic, blurry shot of a fim cut of Satori 3.

Guess no one out there has any comments....

Here are the pics..

Wish these were feminized seeds. If one's a male (or more), there's going to be hell to pay cutting em out of that Scrog....

Right on, my first comment! Thanks bro!

hey thats the exact setup i want!! Nice work dude!

Thanks! (Nice "Little Homies" avatar you've got there!)

It's been getting refined a bit, but it should be pretty good to go now. The frame of the box is made of 2 x 2s with white laminate particle board. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Haha Thanks....yea Im Sure Illl Have Sum Questions As Soon As I Start Building It!

Day 21 and not all's well....

Growth has been intensive over the last 3 days as you'll see, but several leaves are now looking terrible. They have turned shiny and have started heavily curling inward. Often this is referred to as The Claw, but I find it very hard to believe that this is being caused by overnuting. My TDS level is in the mid 500s, which is about 1/4 - 1/3 strength of recommended dosing by Botanicare.

Quick Facts:

TDS Mid 500s
Ph 5.75
Air Temp 81 High / 68 Low
Light Dist. 15 inches
Water Temp Low 70s
Roots White, lots of air circulation
Fan Good circulation of intake and exhaust

Any suggestions? I can't think of anything I'm doing wrong, even slightly...

Any help out there? Please???

Day 24 Veg - Well, after some ups and downs, I think things are on the upswing again. After my last round of curling leaves over Thanksgiving, I've determined the plants got heat stressed. I normally leave the doors to the box cracked with an extra fan blowing and try to keep the temps around 75, but for 3 days over Thanksgiving, the doors were closed and the temps were in the mid 80s, even as high as 86, and with reduced circulation.

After a res. change and several days of running things cool and well ventilated, they're looking a lot better. I pruned quite a few of the older, larger, curled fan leaves that were under the canopy and were not getting light, as well as trained the tops throughout the SCROG. The new growth looks pretty good and most of the tops are above the screen, even after several training sessions.

Now to my question: SHOULD I START 12/12 NOW? Or give them a couple more days for the tops to fully clear the screen?

How much addtional height can I expect if I change to to 12/12 now?

How bout that trunk for a 3.5 week old plant??

No one has any thoughts, comments, or suggestions on when I should go to 12/12???

Anyone??? Buehler?......Buehler?.......

It's up to you, they are ready when you are...good luck

looks good, flower when the screen in 75% full. I'd say now.

There we go, there is life! Gracias bretheren....