DST's Vertical Step Grow - Headband and Cali Orange

DST

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easy big D have had a look on some external sites but cant find much anything about light overlap but from what i did read i'm not sure if it does? i'd love to find out other wise. i just kept on reading when light overlaps some people think its double 600+600 = x foot candles some think its a bit less due to distance etc.
know its meandering of the original peaks and troughs concept but do understand that principle but not sure its relative to light, otherwise things would disappear and reappear in front of our eyes all the time from various "fake" light, natural sun light and reflection of objects???

can any one clear this up lol

hows everyone this fine sunday?

fingerez
Alright Fingerez, all is good on this rainy Sunday.

Thanks for the comments, still investigating...

Just about to head out but wanted to share the good news. Barbagseed is a girl. So after being abandoned by someone in a bar in Amsterdam, it has now been cared for (kind of) and is now going to produce something what, we shall wait and see?!?

So here it is, little white hair just visible.



Yippee.

Peace, dST
 

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323cheezy

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So i think it is time D....
for what u ask???
There comes a time in ever growers life
When he/she (i am no sexist) looks in the mirror
and says damn im a sexy bitch..... oh wait maybe thats just me....smirk....
No !!! but really there comes that time when( i sound like a broken record) you think do i want to start breading ....
Make my own strains??? Start your own club..... not a stip club D ...simmer down...chuckle...
You seem to be on that cannasuer level now.....
Next up the breaders cup....

Ps..... the best cuts in the world are tightly held in A'damn...so i hear.... from my man rez......
 

Hayduke

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easy big D have had a look on some external sites but cant find much anything about light overlap but from what i did read i'm not sure if it does? i'd love to find out other wise. i just kept on reading when light overlaps some people think its double 600+600 = x foot candles some think its a bit less due to distance etc.
know its meandering of the original peaks and troughs concept but do understand that principle but not sure its relative to light, otherwise things would disappear and reappear in front of our eyes all the time from various "fake" light, natural sun light and reflection of objects???

can any one clear this up lol

hows everyone this fine sunday?

fingerez
I believe you are correct about light waves. Just the speed of light compared to speed of sound is so different...but I just found this:

Interference patterns

Animation of interference of waves coming from two point sources.


For two coherent sources, the spatial separation between sources is half the wavelength times the number of nodal lines.
Light from any source can be used to obtain interference patterns, for example, Newton's rings can be produced with sunlight. However, in general white light is less suited for producing clear interference patterns, as it is a mix of a full spectrum of colours, that each have different spacing of the interference fringes. Sodium light is close to monochromatic and is thus more suitable for producing interference patterns. The most suitable is laser light because it is almost perfectly monochromatic.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_(wave_propagation)

Is this why when we take a picture of HPS (I assume with flash) that it has lines across it?


:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

las fingerez

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I believe you are correct about light waves. Just the speed of light compared to speed of sound is so different...but I just found this:

Interference patterns

Animation of interference of waves coming from two point sources.


For two coherent sources, the spatial separation between sources is half the wavelength times the number of nodal lines.
Light from any source can be used to obtain interference patterns, for example, Newton's rings can be produced with sunlight. However, in general white light is less suited for producing clear interference patterns, as it is a mix of a full spectrum of colours, that each have different spacing of the interference fringes. Sodium light is close to monochromatic and is thus more suitable for producing interference patterns. The most suitable is laser light because it is almost perfectly monochromatic.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_(wave_propagation)

Is this why when we take a picture of HPS (I assume with flash) that it has lines across it?


:leaf::peace::leaf:
wow thanks for clearing that up, perfect bro ;) i'm not sure but i think the lines are there due to the light being 60hz and the phones catch ever so slightly the flashing of the lights (our hps flash at 60 times a sec for people unsure about what 60hz means, to do with the power they draw i think???) not the best at explaning things and this is only my own working out, not looked anything up ;)
 

DST

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think I'll stick to my full time job for the moment Cheezey. Amatuer breeding is a different thing though.

Hayduke, nice info post, thanks. I didn't think my memory was escaping me, even after all these years. So I think I will invest in seperating my lights a bit more!

And Fingerez is correct about the 60hz from the lights and the camera phones.
 

DST

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do any of you guys have problems with lighting on the the undersides of your leaves causing the leaves to curl?

here is my grow

http://www.verticalgreen.org/showthread.php?1487-3k-Figure-8&p=5731

at the end of the grow i started to get alot of leaves curling on my taller plants getting hit by light on the uderside.

Is this causing a problem? Will my plants be fine regardless of this leaf curling?
Ihave found through my grow that a lot of the leaves are strange shapes due to the positining of the lights. It doesn't seem to have affected the bud. Perhaps it looks a bit weird, but no biggie for me.

Will check out your grow.

Peace,

DST
 

bender420

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Ihave found through my grow that a lot of the leaves are strange shapes due to the positining of the lights. It doesn't seem to have affected the bud. Perhaps it looks a bit weird, but no biggie for me.

Will check out your grow.

Peace,

DST
Yeah same here man, i see some funky leaves here and there. I do get really bothered when there are only 3 or 5 blades and there are supposed to be 7 or 9 blades per leave.
 

DST

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so would this be counter-productive or not?
they are under 400w MH and the cfl in the reflector is 24w6500k and the big cfl is a 63w3000k.
No, I always think a good range of light spectrum is good, and you have got pretty much the lot, excpet may be 2100, which is more for flower.

Yeah same here man, i see some funky leaves here and there. I do get really bothered when there are only 3 or 5 blades and there are supposed to be 7 or 9 blades per leave.
that is a sign of stress.
I think it is a sign of stress, but then that is what we are doing....I think topping, LSTing, etc, and especially vert growing, does strange things to leaves.

how long dose it take for headband to bud
Depends on the cut, normally around 10weeks. But I have harvested below that (the pheno leaned more towards OG side) However, I also have some that are going over 10 weeks..

Need any more help just holler.

Peace,

DST
 

DST

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This morning I cut down my anasazi OG Kush girls, 3 of them including - for anyone who has been here from the start - Triple T (yup, Three Toed Tara made it!) Although she was left for 9 weeks and never got any lst'ing or topping etc, "so she is a straight up and down, ironboard backside, white cave bitch". sorry, no offence, just like that line.

Okay, since we were having a minor discussion on Benders thread about flushing, guess what, I didn't flush these 3!!! I just watered them with tap water a week ago and that has been it. When I chopped them today, I popped the bases into bottles of water, to ensure the plants keep soaking up that water. This is their flush I am afraid. I will probably chop them at the weekend.

Now the big mofo OG Kush just doesn't look ready yet. So she has been given a little drink and will be left for a few more days. Since the flush last week, the leaves have started to yellow so I think she is on her way now...

Veg tent, help help, need space. The girls are not looking voerly happy at the moment as they need to be repotted. The clones I took are now little mini plants and are pleading for more light and more space....hurry the fek up flowering room.

The last of the Headbands will come down next week I think, then it is the 10 week Blackjack and NY47 which will be put into darkness at the weekend....then chopped next week. This is the plan, it may change. Pics shortly.

Peace, DST
 

Don Gin and Ton

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hahahah spend your life wishing it away in this game D, re the flush ive heard of that method before the emergancy flush mo. basically the same as youve done but with an airstone in the bucket of water apparently you can do this with soil flush for 2 days and its good as gold but ive never put it to the test.

cant wait to see the finished ny47 n blackjack, where did that one come from seedbankwise?
 

bender420

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This morning I cut down my anasazi OG Kush girls, 3 of them including - for anyone who has been here from the start - Triple T (yup, Three Toed Tara made it!) Although she was left for 9 weeks and never got any lst'ing or topping etc, "so she is a straight up and down, ironboard backside, white cave bitch". sorry, no offence, just like that line.

Okay, since we were having a minor discussion on Benders thread about flushing, guess what, I didn't flush these 3!!! I just watered them with tap water a week ago and that has been it. When I chopped them today, I popped the bases into bottles of water, to ensure the plants keep soaking up that water. This is their flush I am afraid. I will probably chop them at the weekend.

Now the big mofo OG Kush just doesn't look ready yet. So she has been given a little drink and will be left for a few more days. Since the flush last week, the leaves have started to yellow so I think she is on her way now...

Veg tent, help help, need space. The girls are not looking voerly happy at the moment as they need to be repotted. The clones I took are now little mini plants and are pleading for more light and more space....hurry the fek up flowering room.

The last of the Headbands will come down next week I think, then it is the 10 week Blackjack and NY47 which will be put into darkness at the weekend....then chopped next week. This is the plan, it may change. Pics shortly.

Peace, DST
Definitely an interesting subject, for someone new like me there are way to many schools of thoughts on flushing to comprehend.

I will do some thinking and let you folks know what I decided on, and of course we will find out from each other and see how the shizz turns out.
 
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