Drooping after topping

MikeTahoe

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Hey all,

Last night preformed my first top on a plant, it was clean and the under growth has already shown progress, but today after turning the lights back on it appeared to be drooping pretty bad. Is this normal? It's in a 1 gallon pot with FFOF under a mars hydro ts1000. I've attached a pic from last night and today. Thanks for any help.
 

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Herb & Suds

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How many plants are you trying to grow under that little light , cause food and water uptake is directly related to light output?
 

MikeTahoe

Active Member
How many plants are you trying to grow under that little light , cause food and water uptake is directly related to light output?
I have 3 plants in 1 gallon pots under that light, all of which i plan to top to allow the others to catch up. I have another light on the other side of the tent (2x4) lighting up 4 seedlings. Im only planning on keeping 3-4 plants total for flower. Just waiting to see which plants are the healthiest/most promising, then chopping the rest
 

hotrodharley

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Hey all,

Last night preformed my first top on a plant, it was clean and the under growth has already shown progress, but today after turning the lights back on it appeared to be drooping pretty bad. Is this normal? It's in a 1 gallon pot with FFOF under a mars hydro ts1000. I've attached a pic from last night and today. Thanks for any help.
Overwatered
 

Flowki

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Hey all,

Last night preformed my first top on a plant, it was clean and the under growth has already shown progress, but today after turning the lights back on it appeared to be drooping pretty bad. Is this normal? It's in a 1 gallon pot with FFOF under a mars hydro ts1000. I've attached a pic from last night and today. Thanks for any help.
Those leaves have that same look as plants grown with under powered cfls. With such low W you need to ensure your temps are around 70f at the pot level, while getting the lights as close as you can to increase leaf temps. If you can't do that then you will likely be forced into once per week watering, with very slow progress. The organic soil probably isn't helping the situation either, as it slows things down to begin with.
 
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twentyeight.threefive

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Those leaves have that same look as plants grown with under powered cfls. With such low W you need to ensure your temps are around 70f at the pot level, while getting the lights as close as you can to increase leaf temps. If you can't do that then you will likely be forced into once per week watering, with very slow progress. The organic soil probably isn't helping the situation either, as it slows things down to begin with.
Why 70F?
 

Flowki

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Lower or higher temps mess with ph, and that begins to mess with micro/macro uptake along with microbe functions. 70f ensures ingoing water is brought up to temp sooner, speeding up water use. 70f will also lead to more evaporation of upper soil, which will then wick moisture from below, further reducing the chance of wet feet, or over watering. More moisture enters the air, also reducing the change of nute burn and heat stress. However that can slow down uptake and lead to over watering by being over zealous ''they must feed every 3 days because that's what the internet says''.

Similar applies to coco, consistent high or low pot temps in relation to opposite water temps mess with ph, however, since oxygen is more available, it isn't near as punishing until the extremes. It is why ingoing water temps during the winter are so important to keep above 65f, to reduce the impact of the above, slow growth and massive ph swings. I assume the reverse is true, constantly supplying cooler water to a sealed 85 ambient room maintains a root temp balance. Some people use the ph swing in their favour, but you have to use a consistent water temp and a consistent room temp to start seeing any level of consistency.

I don't track that stuff so much in the summer, but I track it like a mad man in the winter, low ingoing water temps and sub 70f root zone temps will even get you wet feet and over watering in coco, it's the only way I've ever seen it happen.

Most people will have indirectly noticed the above with pots near a cool air in-take. That is why they never get as big, cold roots, and why you should never have cool intakes pointing toward pots.
 
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