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WoodyHaze

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I suggest you get some Proactive for your azz, and I suggest you read up on the original C99 from brother grimm then you say what you say about Docs..period end of story..another question is why would you let another man kiss your azz???? sounds gay but if thats the way you roll more power to ya, but I like women..my wife to be exact..
Londonfag, wytefairies alter ego, lmao
 
Joeyweed has C99 F2 for 57 a pack..also Moscaseeds has C99 BX1 for about 79 bucks....both are awesome...was leaning more toward Joeyweeds, but then came across a fruitpunch pheno from Moscaseeds that got me stuck...my question with Docs is the grow time ...true C99 ( which was from Brothers Grimm) takes no more then 55 days....both Joeyweeds and Mosca finish in that time period..
I saw the Moca seeds strain on attitude seeds, but I did not see the Joeyweed C99 listed on hempdepot, only several crosses (who I believe is their only distributor). Is it just that they are just out of stock and simply not listed anymore? Or did they completely stop carrying C99?
 

Brick Top

New Member
Originally Posted by Brick Top
[I am only one year short of four decades of growing. If in your mind that equates to me being a; "wannabe botanist," then call me that if you desire.
I guess I'll have to crater face 'cause this summer is my 40th annivesrery of growing.
I am impressed. I never knew that you had grown cannabis for 40 years now. That means you have me beat by a whole year. I am very surprised though that in that many decades of growing cannabis you did not learn more than you evidently have.

What would have really helped you is if a few of your family moved from behind the mule team and plow and left the farm and earned college degrees, especially in horticulture like four of my family members did ... all the rest of us earned degrees in business and various other fields, but when it comes to growing there is nothing better than having four horticulturists to have handy to ask questions if you ever have any.
 

SCARHOLE

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An auto flower is defined by its ruderallis genes?
I thought it was a sativa?....




http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3033.html
What is Ruderalis?
Cannabis Ruderalis is a subspecies of Cannabis Sativa. The term was originally used in the former Soviet Union to describe the varieties of hemp that had escaped cultivation and adapted to the surrounding region.

Mighty Mite ( or Iranian Autos )effectively incorporated the auto-flowering trait, while retaining the habit and potency of its drug cultivar heritage.

Many Indica varieties begin to flower when the day length drops to about 13 1/2-14 hours, while Sativas will often not begin to flower until less than a 12 hour day length is achieved.

DJ Short has recently speculated that Ruderalis introductions into the drug cannabis gene pool likely came from repeated selections for early flowering traits from Indica based lines rather than actually being imported from Russia or surrounding countries (CC#39, Breeding Tips)
 

Brick Top

New Member
An auto flower is defined by its ruderallis genes?
I thought it was a sativa?....




http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3033.html
What is Ruderalis?
Cannabis Ruderalis is a subspecies of Cannabis Sativa. The term was originally used in the former Soviet Union to describe the varieties of hemp that had escaped cultivation and adapted to the surrounding region.

Mighty Mite ( or Iranian Autos )effectively incorporated the auto-flowering trait, while retaining the habit and potency of its drug cultivar heritage.

Many Indica varieties begin to flower when the day length drops to about 13 1/2-14 hours, while Sativas will often not begin to flower until less than a 12 hour day length is achieved.

DJ Short has recently speculated that Ruderalis introductions into the drug cannabis gene pool likely came from repeated selections for early flowering traits from Indica based lines rather than actually being imported from Russia or surrounding countries (CC#39, Breeding Tips)


Cannabis is a genus of flowering plant that includes one or more species. The plant is believed to have originated in the mountainous regions just north-west of the Himalayas in India , though it could also have come from Northern Africa . It is also known as hemp , although this term usually refers to varieties of cannabis cultivated for non-drug use. As a drug it usually comes in the form of dried flowers ( marijuana ), resin ( hashish ), or various extracts collectively referred to as hash oil .


The genus Cannabis was formerly placed with nettles in the family Urticaceae or with mulberries in the family Moraceae, but is now considered along with hops (Humulus sp.) to belong to the family Cannabaceae. All strains of Cannabis can interbreed, and produce fertile offspring, which means all known Cannabis plants satisfy one criterion for a single species type called (Cannabis sativa L.) The current Cannabis species model is classed as:
Cannabis gigantea hort. -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa
Cannabis indica Lam. s -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E. Small & Cronquist
Cannabis indica Lam. var. kafiristanica Vavilov -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E.Small & Cronquist var. kafiristanica (Vavilov) E.Small & Cronquist
Cannabis ruderalis Janisch. -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. f. ruderalis (Janisch.) Chu -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E. Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E.Small & Cronquist var. indica -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E. Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E.Small & Cronquist var. kafiristanica (Vavilov) E.Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. ruderalis Janisch. -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa var. spontanea Vavilov -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebrjakova -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. var. afghanica hort. -> ?
Cannabis sativa L. var. indica Lam. -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E. Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. var. kafiristanica ( Vavilov ) E.Small & A.Cronquist -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E.Small & Cronquist var. kafiristanica (Vavilov) E.Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. var. spontanea Vavilov -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.


Cannabis has shown three distinct landrace "land-race" known as Cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica and Cannabis ruderalis that are geographically isolated. Botanists, especially cannabis specialists, breeders and seed breeders, often refer to these three cannabis landrace as separate species or subspecies types. Whether the different strains of Cannabis constitute a single species (Cannabis sativa L.) or multiple species has been a contentious issue for well over two centuries.


It is traditionally (albeit contentiously) divided into at least five subspecies, indica/sativa, pure indica, pure sativa, mostly sativa and mostly indica, each found as a cultivar and a wild variety. Cannabis sativa male plants show evidence of selection for traits that enhance fiber production and seed-oil for fuel but the female plant produce seeds for food and flower buds that can be used as a psychoactive substance because it has higher levels of the psychoactive delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), whereas Cannabis indica was primarily selected for drug production and has relatively higher levels of cannabidiol (CBD) and Cannabinol (CBN) than THC.

Some Cannabis sativa seedsBotanists Richard E. Schultes and Loran Anderson also conducted taxonomic studies of Cannabis, and concluded that sufficient evidence exists to support recognition of three species, Cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica Lam., and Cannabis ruderalis. According to their species descriptions, C. sativa is tall and laxly branched with relatively narrow leaflets, Cannabis indica is shorter, conical in shape, and has relatively wide leaflets, and Cannabis ruderalis is short, branchless, and grows wild in central Asia. This concept was embraced by cannabis aficionados who commonly distinguish narrow-leafed "sativa" drug strains from wide-leafed "indica" drug strains.


A recent study of genetic variation in Cannabis supports recognition of C. sativa and C. indica as separate species, although the existence of a third species, C. ruderalis, is less certain. This study assigned hemp (fiber/seed) landraces and feral populations from Europe, central Asia, and Asia Minor to C. sativa. Cannabis indica includes both narrow-leafed drug NLD and wide-leafed drug WLD strains, as well as southern and eastern Asian hemp strains and feral Himalayan populations.


In 2005 a DNA study of the variation in Cannabis according to the DNA in their mitochondria and chloroplasts was conducted. The results showed three distinct "races" of cannabis, including the newly discovered Cannabis rasta. In central Asia the THC-rich indica predominated, while in western Europe sativa was more common. In India, south-east Asia, Africa, Mexico and Jamaica the rasta variant predominated.


It looks similar to the sativa subspecies, but generally contains higher levels of THC.
Some authors now refer to C. indica as the subspecies Cannabis sativa subsp. indica and C. ruderalis as the variety Cannabis sativa var. ruderalis reflecting the fact they may not be distinct enough to be classified as separate species. Several other botanical names have also been applied.


There may be political pressures to maintain that "all" Cannabis is designated Cannabis sativa L. for the purposes of avoiding challenges to current laws in various countries.
 

SCARHOLE

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So Taxonomists thought ruderallis is its own sub-species. (Indica, sativa, ruderallis)
But Genetics proves the 3 types are Indica, sativa and Rasta.

Interesting read Brick top. Thanks for sharing that one with us.

"The results showed three distinct "races" of cannabis.
In central Asia the THC-rich indica predominated, while in western Europe sativa was more common.
In India, south-east Asia, Africa, Mexico and Jamaica the rasta variant predominated. It looks similar to the sativa subspecies, but generally contains higher levels of THC."
http://www.newscientist.com/article....mg18725175.200

Sound like Docs Iranian auto an the other Canadian photo sensitive autos are just as legit of an "Auto" as any .
If Ruderallis isn't even a sub species then a requirement for its genes to be present in a "Auto" strain would be ridiculous?
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
I saw the Moca seeds strain on attitude seeds, but I did not see the Joeyweed C99 listed on hempdepot, only several crosses (who I believe is their only distributor). Is it just that they are just out of stock and simply not listed anymore? Or did they completely stop carrying C99?
just check and yes Joeyweeds seems to be sold out of C99...his C99 x Apollo 11 is great too...and Moscaseeds seems to be sold out as well...that should let you know how great these are..but again try that C99 x A11 ( read about it..its just like the description)
 

stonedmetalhead1

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So Taxonomists thought ruderallis is its own sub-species. (Indica, sativa, ruderallis)
But Genetics proves the 3 types are Indica, sativa and Rasta.

Interesting read Brick top. Thanks for sharing that one with us.

"The results showed three distinct "races" of cannabis.
In central Asia the THC-rich indica predominated, while in western Europe sativa was more common.
In India, south-east Asia, Africa, Mexico and Jamaica the rasta variant predominated. It looks similar to the sativa subspecies, but generally contains higher levels of THC."
http://www.newscientist.com/article....mg18725175.200

Sound like Docs Iranian auto an the other Canadian photo sensitive autos are just as legit of an "Auto" as any .
If Ruderallis isn't even a sub species then a requirement for its genes to be present in a "Auto" strain would be ridiculous?
The whole point of an auto is that it's not photo-period sensitive hence the name "auto" as in it automatically flowers regardless of the photo-period while relying on age to start the flowering process.
 
just check and yes Joeyweeds seems to be sold out of C99...his C99 x Apollo 11 is great too...and Moscaseeds seems to be sold out as well...that should let you know how great these are..but again try that C99 x A11 ( read about it..its just like the description)
Thanks man, def a strain I am interested in. Soo many genetics to choose from.
 
I dont get the problem with him charging what ever he wants. An ounce of good weed goes for far more then 100$. If your getting more then an ounce per seed your saving money either way. The best part is noone is going to put a gun to your head and force you to buy anything, Seeds are purchased by people that dont want to waste there money giving it to some dealer. You spend 200$ on 2 seeds and make at least a pound of high quality smoke and you still do better then you wouldve on the street. quitchabitchin
 
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