Nutes and Nugs
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An that is calling the kettle black!
You almost made me piss my panties.
Thanks for the lol's.
does nature have intentionality?
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You almost made me piss my panties.
Thanks for the lol's.
twostrokenut
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I believe in a "creator" or an "engineer" if that's what you're getting at. I also believe in evolution pretty hard to deny that flounder I gigged a coupla months ago.
As I said on the post that prompted this thread...I don't presume to know all the details I do like ancient aliens though....seems as valid a theory as any.
shaped your tool to a point yet? You've been building this one up a bit too hard.....its show and tell time.
twostrokenut
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Yeah I found one where he admits to being john galt....I find the irony amusing.
Padawanbater2
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What makes you think ancient alien theory is valid?
Zaehet Strife
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I think so.To survive and reproduce in order to insure the survival of the next generation.
Padawanbater2
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What are you defining as 'nature'? Of course you don't think other things in nature have intentionality, like hurricanes and volcanoes. I agree with you that our basic instincts are pointing towards reproduction, but I wouldn't necessarily call that intentionality, I don't see any active aspect in the process. Similarly, I wouldn't call blinking or breathing 'active'
MISSPHOEBE
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Nature is Awesome!
I love me some Nature!
I love me some Nature!
smokejoint
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explain to me how nature could have an "intention".
MISSPHOEBE
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like if you leave the washing OUT on the line - nature "rains"
and if you have taken the washing IN - then nature can't be bothered!
this is just one of her simple tricks...
Dr.J20
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intentionality implies consciousness. without understanding consciousness fully it would be hard to assert either way that nature is possessed of consciousness, and, by the transitive property, intentionality.i have heard several right wing folks tell me that nature has intentions lately.
you guys want to have at it for my amusement?
Dr.J20
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but Fibonacci developed the sequence; it was recognized from nature and structured by human pattern-making consciousness and exists separate from phenomenal reality (math is pure abstraction). Fractals are compelling too, but they aren't indications that there lies an intentionality in nature; i'd say they indicate the capacity for pattern recognition/construction of the human mind.
Beefbisquit
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UncleBuck
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no, i'm talking about nature.
like i told bigotednbushy, if you want to start a thread about your weak mind that must rely on some odd notion of a creator, start that thread somewhere else.
GOD HERE
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tyler.durden
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There is nothing to indicate that nature has intentions. It is interesting that many things in nature have the appearance of design (esp. life), and natural selection has it's own strict rules for the way life evolves. But it is a Blind Watchmaker with no apparent intention. Dawkins book of the same title is an excellent read, as in Climbing Mount Improbable. I highly recommend these books to achieve a clear understanding of how these processes work. Possessing a notion that there is a benevolent, conscious force directing things can be comforting if one is ignorant enough, or desperate enough, for that to work. I do not have that option...
twostrokenut
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How would you presume to know? Can you say, as fact, the universe is NOT infinite? And natural?
twostrokenut
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Oh how I laughed at this one....belief in something bigger than yourself is weak minded? What then is the collective?
I digress.....I will leave you to play with your football bat.
Padawanbater2
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The universe is not infinite, that is a fact.
The universe is natural, that is also a fact.
twostrokenut
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I'm a lean mannish boy, I can make love to ya woman, in 5 meenuts tyme.
That's the only fact in here.
That's the only fact in here.