Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?

Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?

  • Yes, I believe employers should provide a living wage to their employees

    Votes: 27 48.2%

  • No, I believe wages should strictly be decided by the employer, at his/her own discretion

    Votes: 13 23.2%

  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 16 28.6%
  • Total voters
    56
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deadgro

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UncleBuck said:
see, there's the problem.

you are not anywhere close to a millionaire, so when i say that i make more than you, it simply means i am not getting paid a shitty wage to do shitty work.

but if you want to see a sample of some of the wealth i married into, i will be happy to post some pics of the half a million dollar wedding i just attended on long island. it was a black tie only affair. tuxedos and gowns. 17 piece band. a dozen hors d'ouevres stations. all the free 30 year aged scotch you could shake your dick at. all at a country club where you need a quarter million annually to even be a member.
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Please post the pictures.
 
gunnar&carey

gunnar&carey

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UncleBuck said:
see, there's the problem.

you are not anywhere close to a millionaire, so when i say that i make more than you, it simply means i am not getting paid a shitty wage to do shitty work.

but if you want to see a sample of some of the wealth i married into, i will be happy to post some pics of the half a million dollar wedding i just attended on long island. it was a black tie only affair. tuxedos and gowns. 17 piece band. a dozen hors d'ouevres stations. all the free 30 year aged scotch you could shake your dick at. all at a country club where you need a quarter million annually to even be a member.
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Go ahead and have ur mod friend delete my shit dude heres my ignore button
 
gunnar&carey

gunnar&carey

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Back to the wages...i think minimum wage shows how much the federal government wants to oppress ppl, how can u raise a country while holding ppl down? U cant but i thinks its the governments way of have a scap goat, they can blame the lower class for the problems they cant fix cuz they already fucked it up
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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gunnar&carey said:
Back to the wages...i think minimum wage shows how much the federal government wants to oppress ppl, how can u raise a country while holding ppl down? U cant but i thinks its the governments way of have a scap goat, they can blame the lower class for the problems they cant fix cuz they already fucked it up
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How is guaranteeing citizens a minimum allowable wage oppression?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
when i was 22 i was making about $20 an hour with full health benefits, 6% match on my 401k, employee stock sharing, and more.

i don't have to suck dick to sell weed either.
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That was a long time ago in an economic reality far, far away, too.

Since there's no shortage of people who need a good job- and so many jobs in America we apparently have to import people to work at them- somehow I think we can afford to pay folks a bit more. If it comes out of the pockets of the corporate fatcats, well that's only one in a thousand of us, in trade for ninety percent getting a raise. I think it's a good trade, personally. Why does that one greedy fucker in a thousand get his way instead?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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deadgro said:
Please post the pictures.
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here is the view of the clubhouse as you make the final turn down the secluded drive.



and here is the view from the clubhouse looking back down the drive



here is a shot i took of one of the holes you see looking out the back of the clubhouse



and here is the last shot i took of a 180 degree panorama view that you get when you walk out the back of the clubhouse



if peasants like deadgro and gunnar&carrey set goals and work real hard, my family can afford more memberships to exclusive long island country clubs like this.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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gunnar&carey said:
Back to the wages...i think minimum wage shows how much the federal government wants to oppress ppl, how can u raise a country while holding ppl down? U cant but i thinks its the governments way of have a scap goat, they can blame the lower class for the problems they cant fix cuz they already fucked it up
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It's not the government itself, it's the politicians who set its policies. Those politicians are bought and paid for by large corporate interests and their owners. Therefore, the Federal Government has become the tool- and the weapon- of Corporate America. Follow the money, it always leads to the answer.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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gunnar&carey said:
Because they raise prices for living u cant afford to live on minimum wage i live in denver and average rent is 1050$ a month at full time minimum wage u can barely touch that
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That doesn't answer my question

Wouldn't it be a much worse situation for the worker if their employer didn't legally have to pay them a minimum wage? Like the example I used earlier, if your employer only paid you $245/week, wouldn't that be much more oppressive than $600?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
UncleBuck said:
if peasants like deadgro and gunnar&carrey set goals and work real hard, my family can afford more memberships to exclusive long island country clubs like this.
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This is yet another good point; it turns out that building a strong middle class means that the millionaire owners of large corporations will see their revenues and profits increase, because they'll be building and growing their own customer base.

This is fundamentally what's wrong with republican economic policy, and why a shift to the left need not be a recipe for austerity.
 
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deadgro

Well-Known Member
UncleBuck said:
here is the view of the clubhouse as you make the final turn down the secluded drive.



and here is the view from the clubhouse looking back down the drive



here is a shot i took of one of the holes you see looking out the back of the clubhouse



and here is the last shot i took of a 180 degree panorama view that you get when you walk out the back of the clubhouse



if peasants like deadgro and gunnar&carrey set goals and work real hard, my family can afford more memberships to exclusive long island country clubs like this.
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That's it?
 
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deadgro

Well-Known Member
UncleBuck said:
how much money do you think you would have to pay to see that place if you weren't invited to a wedding there?
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Its no surprise that now we know your identity, you've gone from having superior ideals to having superior privilege and wealth. Classic troll behavior, needing to feel superior to everyone else.
 
gunnar&carey

gunnar&carey

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Yes that would be worse but ur argument is open-ended of course ots better to nake more but in america we have a minimum wage period
 
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