Do Not Vote For Legalization Or You Are Stupid

Resinator420

Resinator420

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The whole point of the union was to show retards like you that decriminalization is actually a way better way to go but obviously you didnt pay much attention
 
greensister

greensister

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Star7827 said:
I compleatly agree, if they give me the chance to vote on it i will marijuana should be legal and for those of you that say it shouldent because your gonna loose a buck, get over and get a real job until then be happy with what ya got.
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You mean you completely disagree.

Because, yes they can arrest us all. One at a time.
 
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jonbobsmith

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in the union they actually say, " if you think about it decriminalization doesn't make much sense" THEY ACTUALLY SAY THOSE WORDS!
what am i missing?
 
Swill

Swill

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dontexist21 said:
Everything that you say about legalization of marijuana is false. Legalization of marijuana will actually lead to MORE jobs AND less people being thrown in jail. In your argument, which I find ill informed, you state that 90% of money created in the United States comes from the marijuana industry. This is wrong, there is no way that this could be true since most of our economy in some way shape and form is actually fueled by the major corporations. Unless Ford is creating cars that run on hemp, there is no way that this company is profiting from the sale of marijuana to support these claims.

If you imagine a small town in America, one which has mostly American made cars you will see that 99% of those people do not acquire their income from the Black Market. This hypothetical town can be seen as a representation for the rest of America in terms of what they buy and where the money goes to and circulates in the rest of the economy. Now take your drug dealers in the economy, some of them might acquire their product by growing it themselves. While this might be a few people, it will be a minority of people. Most of the dealers will acquire their product from a larger distributer. This weed will most likely come from Mexican drug cartels, or some other gang affiliated entity. Most of the time the money that they acquire does not go back in the economy, it usually get stashed away, where it will later be used to fund other CRIMINAL enterprises.

If you legalize weed, you will allow for job creation through means of creating places such as coffee shops where weed can be purchased, creating a industry for hemp, allowing breeders to be open about their trade. Other side business will also be created, shops which only sell awesome baked cannafood. What makes you think that these people who would sell weed would not put the money back into the economy. Most of these people have kids, homes, cars, and all of the other things that normal people have and want. They will also be able to be more open about their income, which means that would be able to buy what ever they want without giving the DEA a reason to throw them in jail. Decriminalization does not allow for ANY of these things. It means that people can have a small amount for personal use, but they will STILL GET ARRESTED FOR SELLING AND GROWING. Which still assures that people are getting sent to jail over a plant. Legalization basically means that I have the right to do what I want with the plant, and NO ONE can tell me other wise.

Even Amsterdam is having problems with their policies where you can sell it, but it is still illegal to grow it. Which is counterintuitive since that means that black market still has control over the industry. This keeps prices up since you are still taking a risk in selling the product. I do not understand why you would be for decriminalization, you would still be able to get arrested for weed, if it is above a certain amount.

Calling people stupid when you do not understand the issue your self makes you seem ignorant. I have seen The Union, read on this issue, and have debated many times with people on it. The Union was created to explain the on the Black Market marijuana industry is run, no where in documentary did it ever state that America was run on weed. You must have been to high to actually understand it.
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Basically everything I was going write about this topic has already been written. I agree with the quoted post above and completely disagree with the author of this thread.

Legalize marijuana so I can finally become a pot farmer without fear of going to jail.
 
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tombgreen3

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good argument but did you think that if we aren't buying weed from the dealers we would have more money and buy our weed from stores with tax and we would have extra money because it wouldn't be as expensive therefor we would be buying more of every day things and the economy would boom. instead of one dealer buying every day supplies every stoner in wherever they legalize it would be...does this make sense to you?

Just a quick argument to one of your statements.
 
figtree

figtree

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This is funny, dont legalize it so the dealers can still make their money?
how can there be any good argument from the dealer point of view on legalization, it is illegal to deal illegal drugs, and this applies to marijauna. if your not medical you are illegal, and if your selling and not a caregiver, your illegal.

Just to let you know, dealers sell prescription drugs too, and these are legal for the people prescribed it. yet dealers still sell them. think this could apply to marijauna as well when its legalized? for the dealers.

I like it rough there cracker....... LOL
Definetly llike the new pic in your sig.
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shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
figtree said:
This is funny, dont legalize it so the dealers can still make their money?
how can there be any good argument from the dealer point of view on legalization, it is illegal to deal illegal drugs, and this applies to marijauna. if your not medical you are illegal, and if your selling and not a caregiver, your illegal.
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The only argument I can see there is by going through local dealers, they put money into the local economy that may not have been present before. Not to mention the government is able to have police getting paid (for looking for illegal weed), arrest people, and collect taxes from illegal marijuana. Also, the pharmaceutical industry (I would imagine), does not want to see it legalized. So there are a couple of standpoints I guess.

figtree said:
Just to let you know, dealers sell prescription drugs too, and these are legal for the people prescribed it. yet dealers still sell them. think this could apply to marijauna as well when its legalized? for the dealers.
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This is a different argument. This is supply and demand.

If you notice different areas have different prices (for everything), it is the same idea. Especially with prescription drugs! Things that are easily prescribed or are easily accessed are inexpensive (e.g., vicodin).

If marijuana were to become legalized, the supply would be overwhelming and the demand would (more than likely) not meet the supply (as many people will probably see the legalization as an opportunity to grow/sell, and see it as a "get rich quick" scheme and turn to it, whereas the demand would more than likely stay the same or lower, which would in turn, drop the prices).

Just my .02
 
connorbrown

connorbrown

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But the thing that you guys are leaving out is INDUSTRIAL marijuana. Our economy would boom with industrial hemp. We could export so much more materials without destroying other companies. (3 acres of hemp will save 9 acres of trees.)
And they would stop spending our tax money to build prisons so people that smoke pot can go to.

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA IN 2010
 
Engineer

Engineer

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Wont decriminalization come before legalization anyway? Also, use spell check because you do have a good point but your post is barely legible. If you want people to take you seriously then be serious.
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
CrackerJax said:
Well, unless the money is being shipped back to Mexico.... all drug money is eventually spent on guns. :lol:
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I was simply throwing out ideas, I am pro-legalization (just to see tax money better spent and a better legal plan initiated).

In my area a lot of the money goes to local growers, which in turn pays for food/bills/recreational stuff/etc. I do see what you're saying about Mexico though.

If we decrim, maybe it will eliminate some of the drugs coming into the US... hard to tell.

Engineer said:
Wont decriminalization come before legalization anyway? Also, use spell check because you do have a good point but your post is barely legible. If you want people to take you seriously then be serious.
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In some states, yes. My state did not pass for medical nor for decriminalization, but they have a bill in action for legalization. It just depends on the state I guess. As to federally.. I am not the right person to ask, I really do not know.
 
gopherbuddah

gopherbuddah

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Where in the hell did anyone get the idea that civilization would fail after leagalization. If anything legal buds would stimulate the economy. All the money spent on this so called war on pot could be used for other things like health care, education, and many other things that are going through lack of funding that the government wastes on trying to keep marijuana out of our hands. Farmers in the midwest that are being paid to not grow crops, due to produce being cheeper else where could start growing again. The thousands of people arrested annualy on marijuana charges would no longer be a part of a prison over crowding problem that is seen no where is in the world other than the good ol u.s. of a. To say that company's would go under because people would stop buying things if leaglization were to happen is laughable. This sounds like a rant from someone who depends on having a monoply on a product that is currently unavailable easily. If pot heads are spending money on random shit is not going to stop. If anything there will be more pot heads than ever buying random shit. If it's easily available than that means more people will be smoking, meaning more people walking around stoned buying shit. If anything the economy would be in great shape. I'm sure bootleggers tried to convince people pf the same thing during the prohibition, because they saw money being taken out of thier pocket. Stop trying to cause a panic and get a job, make money the old fashioned way, and grow on the side for personal smoke, like I'm guessing most of us are.
 
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