Johnny Lawrence
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Yeah, and I've done side by sides with my hydro grown weed vs a local, well respected soil grower, where my shit came out on top. Same strains - Betsy and Blueberry Kush. Is that science? No. What's your point?
Do bloom boosters make your bud taste like shit?
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Johnny Lawrence
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You fail.
Johnny Lawrence
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Are you kidding me? Your one time observations are proof of what?
Again, confirmation bias ftw.
Wow.
Dr. Who
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Miss something?
Your just trying to start a confrontation now.....Or simply trolling.....Your statement is down right funny....
Yet, for you and Johnny.
It is a long held fact that the symbiotic relationship between the living soil and the plant. Produce some factors can not completely be reproduced by synthetic feeding...
You all must remember that the growing done by my parents. Was done for many years. Both grew up on farms. Both had direct contact with the plants and results from growing them for all those years also...
It's called direct experience....
I didn't find the difference in terp profiles from differing sulfate sources over night....AND, no matter how I've tried and tried..(I am working on finding what I might supplement to pull in those Pinene's)...I simply can not copy the those terp profiles in soil and synthetics that organics produce...
Synthetic run GG, does NOT smell like organic run at all.....Supplementing those 2 sulfates helps but, you can still tell......Bias or not.
The real difference to me? My customers can tell the difference! Like @OldMedUser said.
Some don't care as long as the buzz stays the same but,,,those other 2/3 are so passionate about that taste and smell (and they can pick them out every time)....They MUST have the organic!
Your an ass...
You have nothing to to back your totally incorrect theory.
You poke and point fingers and can't do more then attack with no defence.
Pick up the teaming with microbes book and read it.
I'll put mine up against yours, any day, any time, any were.....
Kingrow1
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I can agree that organic grown plants take up a much broader selection of nutrients and in much more different forms but not to judging organic or synthetic but see no reason why it cant be done in certain situations, synthetic can be altered with organic supplements and hence why many enjoy the synthetic plus organic route as we all know.
Thats the best i can say but for a while in Amsterdamn all bud no matter what had the same slight after taste that i put down to using the same chem nutes for all strains and guess it wouldnt be there if they were organic.
A subjective subject still maybe
i agree but if you use synthetic nutrients in soil you must flush at the end. That’s the point I was making and was laughed at.I can agree that organic grown plants take up a much broader selection of nutrients and in much more different forms but not to judging organic or synthetic but see no reason why it cant be done in certain situations, synthetic can be altered with organic supplements and hence why many enjoy the synthetic plus organic route as we all know.
Thats the best i can say but for a while in Amsterdamn all bud no matter what had the same slight after taste that i put down to using the same chem nutes for all strains and guess it wouldnt be there if they were organic.
A subjective subject still maybe
getogrow
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green and its not clean ??! yea i have to laugh at that .....you guys are running with 30 year old info from here on riu. Thats why oi left 10 years ago ....little to no knowledge on the subject. Subcool was the only "respected soil grower" back then... its 2019 , if it aint green its trash.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Once you trim and manicure you buds they go directly into the paper bag, correct? At that point Do you ever open the bag at all to air it or just keep it closed for how long? Is there any chance of mold build up?My buds go into doubled or tripled paper bags and stay in my cool, 50F, basement while they dry.
Freshly trimmed off the plant.
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Still a couple weeks to go in a jar/can. I use those empty tobacco cans instead of jars as they have smooth sides so when the buds form a big clump early on it slides right out onto a tray to be carefully broken apart and allowed to breathe a bit before going back in.
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Kingrow1
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Because we simply do not flush and any synthetic nutrient might go through thirty organic chemistry reactions before it ends up as organic material we smoke.
As yet im not even sure science has the total synthesis from synthetic nutes to the final bud yet as last time we as a site checked they hadnt cracked it.
I understand your debate but in no way shape or form do we smoke the same chemicals as fertilizer since that would kill us pretty quick so wrgo there is more to it
getogrow
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no, you want to dry them up a bit before throwing in paper sacks (depending on situation) .... they WILL mold easily, so monitor humidity regularly . we hang um in a dry room till they feel dry then trim and paper bag or jars. after that we gotta check on the bags/jars every day to monitor the humidity. i guess the object is to take as long as you can to reach the "done point" (when the bud moisture is...i cant recall 55% ? i go by feel) You can do it fast (2 weeks ish) but i dont recommend anything faster then that for actual testing.
LinguaPeel
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Regarding Cannabis, anything other than Cannabis. (like grow products)
LinguaPeel
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Hydro growers smh
LinguaPeel
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A taste test with qualified judges? A Brix metre for those incompatible with bio-observable reality?
Come on, anyone asking this question is smoking kool bloom flavored bud. Seriously. Half the online Cannabis growers need to admit they don't have taste buds, grow chemmy trash, and just get over it: your bud doesn't have the same Cannabis metabolites as Cannabis grown in soil,and does typically have bad flavors from bottled products directly absorbed by the plant during bloom.
OldMedUser
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That's how I do mine. They get opened daily and dumped out onto a tray as they form a big lump so I gently break that up and let them air dry for a half hour or so then back in the bag they go. After a few days they've lost almost half their weight and don't stick together so bad so I might just open the bag and shake them a bit to loosen them up and get some fresh air in there.
Even after a few weeks of that they will still form a mass in the jars and may need to be dumped out to break that up. Daily burping for sure the first couple weeks.
I have had some get mouldy over the years but usually caught it right away so those get spread out on a screen to quick dry and get used for edibles. I'm not freaked out by a little mould. When we were teens we used to moisten pot and bury it to let it get mouldy on purpose in the mistaken belief it got you a lot higher. Nobody ever got sick or died. lol
I used to do basically the same thing using wax paper lined tobacco tube boxes. I'd use my trim scissors to punch holes in the paper and the boxes and could get a good 5 weeks drying time before going into jars. 100g of wet bud in each box at the start that would be slightly under 24g at the end of the cure and ready to smoke.
Harvest time with all the boxes sitting on the gas pipe down in the basement where it's nice and cool.
A good method I read about is to put your freshly trimmed buds in mason jars and cover with a layer of cheesecloth and slow dry them in a fridge. Only half-fill the jars so you can just rotate them and shake gently to break up the clumps. Either a rubber band or the metal ring can be used to keep the cloth on. Gonna make everything else taste and smell like pot but I don't see any problems with that.
Kingrow1
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The 'Done' point for bud moisture is between 10% and 15%. 55% is actually an air equalization point.
Kingrow1 be 2019 with that info for sure
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Thank you for taking your time to explain all the detailed information.That's how I do mine. They get opened daily and dumped out onto a tray as they form a big lump so I gently break that up and let them air dry for a half hour or so then back in the bag they go. After a few days they've lost almost half their weight and don't stick together so bad so I might just open the bag and shake them a bit to loosen them up and get some fresh air in there.
Even after a few weeks of that they will still form a mass in the jars and may need to be dumped out to break that up. Daily burping for sure the first couple weeks.
I have had some get mouldy over the years but usually caught it right away so those get spread out on a screen to quick dry and get used for edibles. I'm not freaked out by a little mould. When we were teens we used to moisten pot and bury it to let it get mouldy on purpose in the mistaken belief it got you a lot higher. Nobody ever got sick or died. lol
I used to do basically the same thing using wax paper lined tobacco tube boxes. I'd use my trim scissors to punch holes in the paper and the boxes and could get a good 5 weeks drying time before going into jars. 100g of wet bud in each box at the start that would be slightly under 24g at the end of the cure and ready to smoke.
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Harvest time with all the boxes sitting on the gas pipe down in the basement where it's nice and cool.
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A good method I read about is to put your freshly trimmed buds in mason jars and cover with a layer of cheesecloth and slow dry them in a fridge. Only half-fill the jars so you can just rotate them and shake gently to break up the clumps. Either a rubber band or the metal ring can be used to keep the cloth on. Gonna make everything else taste and smell like pot but I don't see any problems with that.
The refrigerator method sounds like a interesting approach I haven’t heard of but might try. Is it because it is so cold in the refrigerator? What setting level or optimal temperature is recommended for the refrigerator while drying buds in there?
OldMedUser
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Pretty sure it's just what the fridge temp is normally. That should be around 36F. I know that because we have been having trouble with out fridge so I looked it up just a few days ago. Not sure what I did but got it working ok again so our milk isn't going sour before we use it up any more.
My basement gets pretty cold in the winter and a couple times I've had to use a heater to keep it from freezing as my plumbing for the house water from the dugout is down there. Never gets warmer than about 63F all summer so I got lots of free cool air for my grow room. I dry my pot down there.
Would be handy to have a little bar fridge or just an old fridge to use for curing. Should be able to find a decent used one for cheap. Unplug it when you're not cropping or keep it going to store your cured buds and seed stash in if you're like me and have left overs all the time. Could even keep beer in if you want.
I kind of like how it goes as it ages at room temp tho. Still smoking some OG#18 that I cropped in June '16 and find it good.
At colder temps I'm pretty sure you want to prolong the dry time as the biological processes that break the crap down have to work slower at colder temps. Works that way with everything else or we wouldn't need freezers and fridges right.
