DIY cloner! Looking for feedback.
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Keesje
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Root rot needs oxygen as well.
But perhaps I misunderstand you.
Root rot and many other diseases need the same things as the roots of your plants. Temperature and oxygen and water.
So when those circumstances are perfect for your roots, they are as well for diseases.
EDIT. Although I stated the things above, in a link from shawnery, I read things that are contradicting this. And the link looks very legitimate. Perhaps I mixed up some diseases.
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shawnery
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Glad I could be of help!
shawnery
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I've always been told and read for the past year that root rot grows in an enviroment low in oxygen, now I'm totally confused!
Follow link,
http://urbanagnews.com/blog/research/pythium-root-rot-on-hydroponically-grown-basil-and-spinach/
but here is the important part,
Environmental conditions that favor Pythium include excessively high fertility, waterlogged substrates (for example, in the seedling stage), low dissolved oxygen, and extreme temperatures. Injury to roots such as through mechanical damage, allowing roots to dry out, or extreme temperatures can provide an entry point to Pythium.
Follow link,
http://urbanagnews.com/blog/research/pythium-root-rot-on-hydroponically-grown-basil-and-spinach/
but here is the important part,
Environmental conditions that favor Pythium include excessively high fertility, waterlogged substrates (for example, in the seedling stage), low dissolved oxygen, and extreme temperatures. Injury to roots such as through mechanical damage, allowing roots to dry out, or extreme temperatures can provide an entry point to Pythium.
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CoB_nUt
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I clone in my veg tent or anywhere theres room at the time. The rusty nail clone water didn't kill my clones. Nor did it breed any baddes that attacked my clones. As you have stated, I too sometimes clone in an environment that SHOULD cause issues,but I dont have any issues. Also, I've never used a dome on my cloner. No misting either. My humidty is lower than I like my veg right now, I'll,see if it affects cloning time.
Keesje
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Now I am confused as well.
Especially because it does not come from a stoner-source.
Mmmm, then forget what I said.
fragileassassin
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shawnery
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It's a two fold problem as I understand it.
Root rot, which is not just pythium but many different types flourishes in low oxygen enviroments. Plants also do very bad in low oxygen enviroments which then increases their ability to be taken over by the pathogen. Young plants and sick(deficient and the like) plants are the most likely to be invaded by these pathogens.
Once you get it it's much like the chicken and the egg and very hard to fix.
My understanding from reading non-stoner opinions and scientific studies.
Root rot, which is not just pythium but many different types flourishes in low oxygen enviroments. Plants also do very bad in low oxygen enviroments which then increases their ability to be taken over by the pathogen. Young plants and sick(deficient and the like) plants are the most likely to be invaded by these pathogens.
Once you get it it's much like the chicken and the egg and very hard to fix.
My understanding from reading non-stoner opinions and scientific studies.
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fragileassassin
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Cleanliness, light, water temp, and DO content all play their roles in root rot.
From personal experience, you can have plenty of DO and perfect temps while using something like hydroguard and still get rot. My issue was light leaks. People underestimate how much light bleeds through lids and hoses.
From personal experience, you can have plenty of DO and perfect temps while using something like hydroguard and still get rot. My issue was light leaks. People underestimate how much light bleeds through lids and hoses.
fragileassassin
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Root update btw!
Not quite 100% rooted, but it looks like I'll have a plenty to choose my next crop from!!!
Bruce banner, Skywalker OG, and some grape shit (1 row of each). The 3 plants I took them from are all doing AMAZING right now.
Not quite 100% rooted, but it looks like I'll have a plenty to choose my next crop from!!!
Bruce banner, Skywalker OG, and some grape shit (1 row of each). The 3 plants I took them from are all doing AMAZING right now.
fragileassassin
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shawnery
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Yet my cloner had tons of light leaks and every other horrible thing for hydro.
That was a good point about the kratky method which even confuses more.
fragileassassin
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I think your situation is best described by in the end its still a weed and just doesnt give a shit sometimes.
My cloner isnt far off though.. I havent really done anything with it since I cut them. Water temp stays 80+ and I have no idea what the ph is at this point as I havent checked it since it stabilized. Spray bar on 15/15 timer and I just open the lid to get some fresh air in it every few days.
At this point im hoping I can get my new veg setup done before the roots get too big for the cloner.
CoB_nUt
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Cuttings taken from a plant in flower @4ish to 5 weeks from under gowth. 14 days in the cloner,tap water only no ph. Was experimenting with angled stem cuts,straight cuts,splitting stems snd scraping the skin.
They will get binned as I don't need them. Was just experimenting. No domes, I didn't even cut fan leaves in half.I never do.
They will get binned as I don't need them. Was just experimenting. No domes, I didn't even cut fan leaves in half.I never do.
