Delivery Service a bad idea?

st0wandgrow

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I know a guy that has a delivery service. Ann Arbor area. He used to work at a dispensary so I think he made a lot of contacts that way and probably charges a lot less than the dispensary... so he had an immediate, trustworthy clientele.

Maybe you could get a gig at a dispensary in the area that you're looking at and drum up some business?:bigjoint:
 

kinddiesel

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big job. easy money high risk . show up get shot or shop up and its a cop with a card . cops can have cards too why not ? lot of people deliver weed in Michigan. I suggest only dealing with known friends. stay safe. weed is a drug they will kill you for it . or put you into jail a ounce in a felony . even if your legal if you don't sell it legal .
 

Dr.Pecker

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Its all rite here in black an white ....HaHa
9.19 Controlled Substance—Conspiracy to Distribute or Manufacture

9.19 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE—CONSPIRACY TO DISTRIBUTE OR MANUFACTURE (21 U.S.C. §§ 841(a) and 846)

The defendant is charged in [Count _____ of] the indictment with conspiracy to [[distribute] [manufacture]] [specify controlled substance] in violation of Section 841(a) and Section 846 of Title 21 of the United States Code. In order for the defendant to be found guilty of that charge, the government must prove each of the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

First, beginning on or about [date] and ending on or about [date], there was an agreement between two or more persons to [[distribute] [manufacture]] [specifycontrolled substance]; and

Second , the defendant joined in the agreement knowing of its purpose and intending to help accomplish that purpose.

["To distribute" means to deliver or transfer possession of [specify controlled substance] to another person, with or without any financial interest in that transaction.]

A conspiracy is a kind of criminal partnership—an agreement of two or more persons to commit one or more crimes. The crime of conspiracy is the agreement to do something unlawful; it does not matter whether the crime agreed upon was committed.

For a conspiracy to have existed, it is not necessary that the conspirators made a formal agreement or that they agreed on every detail of the conspiracy. It is not enough, however, that they simply met, discussed matters of common interest, acted in similar ways, or perhaps helped one another. You must find that there was a plan to commit at least one of the crimes alleged in the indictment as an object or purpose of the conspiracy with all of you agreeing as to the particular crime which the conspirators agreed to commit.

One becomes a member of a conspiracy by willfully participating in the unlawful plan with the intent to advance or further some object or purpose of the conspiracy, even though the person does not have full knowledge of all the details of the conspiracy. Furthermore, one who willfully joins an existing conspiracy is as responsible for it as the originators. On the other hand, one who has no knowledge of a conspiracy, but happens to act in a way which furthers some object or purpose of the conspiracy, does not thereby become a conspirator. Similarly, a person does not become a conspirator merely by associating with one or more persons who are conspirators, nor merely by knowing that a conspiracy exists.

Comment

This instruction is for use with Instructions 9.15, 9.16, 9.18, 9.21, 9.23, and 9.25.

Concerning the elements of the crime, see, e.g., United States v. Reed, 575 F. 3d 900, 923 (9th Cir.2009).

See United States v. Shabani, 513 U.S. 10, 15-16 (1994), holding that in order to establish a violation of 21 U.S.C. § 846, the government is not required to prove commission of overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy. The Court contrasted § 846, which is silent as to whether there must be an overt act, with the general conspiracy statute, 18 U.S.C. § 371, which contains the explicit requirement that a conspirator "do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy." Id. at 14.

Approved 1/2011

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gladstoned

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Delivery service is a good idea.
People are loving food trucks these days too.
If it wasn't so expensive I'd have a Medicated Acres food truck downtown.
 

TheMan13

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We need a lawyer to interpret
It looks like someone has been reading Title 21 of the Code of Federal Regulations, good on you! Although, you won't need a lawyer to interpret your defense to this shit until law enforcement and a prosecutor specifically interpret it against you. At that time the game of legal precedents come into play as well. Simply being in possession of over one ounce of your medicine some how satisfies federal "intent to distribute" charges beyond a reasonable doubt as your state rights as a medicinal patient are simply ignored ...

I've heard some recently kicking around the common law principle of legal certainty and the plight of MMJ patients such as yourself struggling to make sense of this garbage drives home their point. Historically ignorance of the law is NOT a defense under the law, although integrity and equality of such laws as currently being sold by prosecutors and defense attorneys needs to be addressed. For example marijuana does NOT meet the definition of a schedule I narcotic and it's maintenance upon this list became absurd three decades ago when the federal government began providing medicinal marijuana to patients. In the end there is a lot of power and money to be had playing this game and we'll need a lot more of the population to truly understand this game before it meets it's just end.
 
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cephalopod

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We'd hate to hurt their tender sensibility. Lol
At least he's not setting up a brick and mortar next door. That'd be more of a finger to them in my book. IMO: They should have great expectations of this type of thing happening and have a contingency plan in place.
That sounds like a sure fire way to piss someone off, work for them for a bit and steal customers when you leave...
 

cephalopod

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I ran into a couple young cats in my little town working on getting a roach coach going. Made me smile, I hope they can make a go at it. I think if they're smart they can do well this summer.

Delivery service is a good idea.
People are loving food trucks these days too.
If it wasn't so expensive I'd have a Medicated Acres food truck downtown.
 

TheMan13

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I assume a delivery service can succeed under the same principles that have propped up the brick & mortars across the state for the past half decade: cash & political connections :bigjoint:
 

CannaCole

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I know a guy that has a delivery service. Ann Arbor area. He used to work at a dispensary so I think he made a lot of contacts that way and probably charges a lot less than the dispensary... so he had an immediate, trustworthy clientele.

Maybe you could get a gig at a dispensary in the area that you're looking at and drum up some business?:bigjoint:
That sounds like a sure fire way to piss someone off, work for them for a bit and steal customers when you leave...
It's a dog eat dog world. If the dispensary was actually worried about that they would have something called a "non-compete". They are too busy rooking people for money to even care. Welcome to America.
 

Dr.Pecker

Well-Known Member
It looks like someone has been reading Title 21 of the Code of Federal Regulations, good on you! Although, you won't need a lawyer to interpret your defense to this shit until law enforcement and a prosecutor specifically interpret it against you. At that time the game of legal precedents come into play as well. Simply being in possession of over one ounce of your medicine some how satisfies federal "intent to distribute" charges beyond a reasonable doubt as your state rights as a medicinal patient are simply ignored ...

I've heard some recently kicking around the common law principle of legal certainty and the plight of MMJ patients such as yourself struggling to make sense of this garbage drives home their point. Historically ignorance of the law is NOT a defense under the law, although integrity and equality of such laws as currently being sold by prosecutors and defense attorneys needs to be addressed. For example marijuana does NOT meet the definition of a schedule I narcotic and it's maintenance upon this list became absurd three decades ago when the federal government began providing medicinal marijuana to patients. In the end there is a lot of power and money to be had playing this game and we'll need a lot more of the population to truly understand this game before it meets it's just end.
This is all true if the law is talking to you then they are building their case. Its best not to say anything and make them get a warrant. What they typically try to do is get you to incriminate yourself.Then they say something like ill get a warrant and kick your door in. Then you say ok the door will be unlocked if you get that warrant and ill will be recording every bit of it. Just be as polite as possible.
 
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