PURPLEB3RRYKUSH
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Leave em you got barely any leafs
Defoliation during late flower
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Growing24/7
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Don't do it, i already tested it.. It just decreases yield and slows down bud growth.. Not to mention more of a chance of your plant herming up
Kingrow1
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Its generally a source to sink relationship, leaves supply the area of most demand and that will be in the brightest parts so removing leaves would only increase a lower buds demand and growth but overall the total energy towards growth hasnt changed except now you have less leaves. In no way does defoliating increase yeilds, grape growers use it to decrease yeilds and no maths in the world makes it better in any way.
That said if your growing plants too big or bushy for your light one molight assume you would even out thr plants light and thus growth would be more uniform sll over. At this point growing a shorter plant in a shorter time would have been a better option.
Defoliation works if you really suck at growing large plants under small lights and thus a reduction means a similar yeild anyway.
Yellow pigments id assume still wuench light energy as does purple and thus would contribute to plant energy rather than suck.it allbeot at a lower rate.
Leaves are useless when water is no longer transported and that is the moment they tend to drop or pull off.
All advice up to this modern rubbish was to grow the right size plant in veg then not touch her in flowering - id promote this over a lot of other methods as its the most efficient and high yeilding
That said if your growing plants too big or bushy for your light one molight assume you would even out thr plants light and thus growth would be more uniform sll over. At this point growing a shorter plant in a shorter time would have been a better option.
Defoliation works if you really suck at growing large plants under small lights and thus a reduction means a similar yeild anyway.
Yellow pigments id assume still wuench light energy as does purple and thus would contribute to plant energy rather than suck.it allbeot at a lower rate.
Leaves are useless when water is no longer transported and that is the moment they tend to drop or pull off.
All advice up to this modern rubbish was to grow the right size plant in veg then not touch her in flowering - id promote this over a lot of other methods as its the most efficient and high yeilding
Flowki
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A person can be experienced at doing X but that does not make X beneficial or factual. I am not trying to be a dick but the difference matters. Specific to mj, it is a resilient plant, you can throw x,y,z at it and it will still produce buds. That does not prove x,y,z is good or bad. Some things are easy to notice visually, but other things, like effects on thc etc etc, not easy at all.
Plants are quite simple in how they work over all (not to trivialise the finer complexities). Botanists figured out that gravity is one of the key reasons a sprout will begin to point up for example. In your specific case, plants close together block each others light to lower canopy and that shuts off growth due to lack of light signals. This could explain why some plants grow slim but tall, to out do compitition. Or, it could be that the signal to shut off lower growth hits another switch to accelerate upper stem growth, essentially putting the plant into reactionary competition mode. I've read of speculation that some tree species actually work together and use this tactic to smother out other competition. Light, intensity, spectrum and duration are known to stimulate stem and leaf growth/amount/leaf size etc. We all witness such triggers with the change to 12/12. The plants as far as I've ever read are very much reactive, not ''free thinking''. It's also easy to see this, if plants had any ability to act freely, they would never grow into a hps bulb and burn.. and continue growing into it even when burning. The plant uses environmental aspects as a simple on/off trigger to grow/stop or veg/flower etc etc.
Yes we can and have learned that certain triggers can be taken advantage of, such as topping (replicates animal grazing) the plant response turns out to be subjectively beneficial to us. But, as many can say, topping serves a human imposed logistical purpose. The people smashing the ball out of the park are doing quick cycle sog. With this perspective you then see that topping has an upside, it's better than poorly trained big plants.. but it also has a big downside, it isn't near as good for annual weight as a proper sog.
This is what I am getting at with the assertions of defoliation late into flower (defoliation is always an ongoing debate). X upside but what downside?.. its more difficult to know. The upside is not inherently obvious either. Not like the topping example.
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PJ Diaz
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Defoliation is a common practice of cultivation in the cotton industry. They have specific reasons they do it, some of which could be considered potential benefits to Cannabis cultivation as well:
Source: http://www.mississippi-crops.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/W376_2018.pdf
budsfordayz
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The “science” your referring too is not set in stone. People need to understand as more legalization goes on through out the world more and more plant/strain specific research will be conducted and this science behind this plant will keep evolving. Until then we just gotta do what we see results in doing and iv personally seen results and benefits to defoliation late flower.
What i can tell you if your seeing decreased yields with defoliation during last 2 weeks of flower your plant probably wasn't even 2 weeks from being done in the first place. Most my buds are swol as hell last 2 weeks anyway cant see how it would decrease yeild . Then again i patiently wait for my trichs to go amber as I'm growing medicine not some rushed crap that people pawn off to the younger potheads.
budsfordayz
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As for stress A plant of mine recently got knocked over into mud and i actually trimmed the leaves off wile alive as a expiriment. Left it like that for a week didnt see one nanner as far as stress goes. Could be a strain specific thing tho my plant was a critical + 2.0. And that was sugar leaves and all.
