December 21, 2012. Doomsday?

Erniedytn

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
email468 said:
I apologize if I am sounding cynical and facetious but I am building a strong case of evidence and you won't budge.

Do you really, I mean really believe that ancient folks are able to predict the end of the world because of a planetary conjunction and modern astronomy /astrophysics and cosmology can not?

If your goal is to convince to believe something without evidence - you have a slight chance - but now you are asking me to believe in something DESPITE the evidence and i'll tell you right now - no way in hell. You might as well try to convert me to some religion - you'll get just as far.

I will conclude by asking for your indulgence if anything I've said is insulting. I mean no disrespect. I am just frustrated debating with someone who isn't swayed by evidence.
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Let me start by saying that if you are trying to convince me of ANYTHING...you are wasting your time. Second I have NEVER said that something was going to DEFINATLEY happen on that day. I said IF...that's not WILL. I was arguing the fact that the Mayan caledar was accurate....I present evidence to this and you say "So What". I rest my case on that. Third of all I am not trying to convince you of anything as far as predictions, aliens, or conspiracies......you have your beliefs and I have mine. I could care less if you don't believe a word I say. I simply present the information as I find it. The reader can make their own assumptions. I find things like this interesting....and I like to share/discuss them. I'm not gonna sit here and debate you like this because trust me....I have been through it before, and you know where it lead.....NOWHERE. I wasted 3 days arguing with Skunk in the aliens thread and guess what....I still believe that there are aliens visiting Earth and he stills thinks it's a crock.

So now it's obvious......you don't believe in ANY of this stuff. That's cool with me and we can just agree to disagree.:peace:
 
email468

email468

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Erniedytn said:
So now it's obvious......you don't believe in ANY of this stuff. That's cool with me and we can just agree to disagree.:peace:
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I try not to believe anything without evidence and will not believe anything IN SPITE of the evidence.

I will leave you with this advice - learn about the baloney detection kit. That is a good step towards evaluating evidence.
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
email468 said:
we KNEW you were going to do that so we went back and told your older self not to do it. but time imploded so now we have to start all over again.
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But my time machine has the built in paradox prevention, so the other me that you went back and talked to never got that message.:eyesmoke:
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
'Doomsday Vault' to Protect World's Seeds - AOL News


LONGYEARBYEN, Norway (Feb. 26) - A "doomsday" seed vault built to protect millions of food crops from climate change, wars and natural disasters opened Tuesday deep within an Arctic mountain in the remote Norwegian archipelago of Svalbard.

"The Svalbard Global Seed Vault is our insurance policy," Norway's Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg told delegates at the opening ceremony. "It is the Noah's Ark for securing biological diversity for future generations."

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and 2004 Nobel Peace Prize winner Wangari Maathai of Kenya were among the dozens of guests who had bundled up for the ceremony inside the vault, about 425 feet deep inside a frozen mountain.

"This is a frozen Garden of Eden," Barroso said.

The vault will serve as a backup for hundreds of other seed banks worldwide. It has the capacity to store 4.5 million seed samples from around the world and shield them from man-made and natural disasters.

Dug into the permafrost of the mountain, it has been built to withstand an earthquake or a nuclear strike.

Norway owns the vault in Svalbard, a frigid archipelago about 620 miles from the North Pole. It paid $9.1 million for construction, which took less than a year. Other countries can deposit seeds without charge and reserve the right to withdraw them upon need.

The operation is funded by the Global Crop Diversity Trust, which was founded by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization and Biodiversity International, a Rome-based research group.

"Crop diversity will soon prove to be our most potent and indispensable resource for addressing climate change, water and energy supply constraints, and for meeting the food needs of a growing population," said Cary Fowler, head of the Global Crop Diversity Trust.

Svalbard is cold, but giant air conditioning units have chilled the vault further to -0.4 Fahrenheit, a temperature at which experts say many seeds could last for 1,000 years.

Stoltenberg and Maathai delivered the first box of seeds to the vault during the opening ceremony — a container of rice seeds from 104 countries.

"This is unique. This is very visionary. It is a precaution for the future," Maathai, a Crop Diversity Trust board member, told The Associated Press after the ceremony.

The seeds are packed in silvery foil containers — as many as 500 in each sample — and placed on blue and orange metal shelves inside three 32-foot-by-88-foot storage chambers. Each vault can hold 1.5 million sample packages of all types of crop seeds, from carrots to wheat.

Construction leader Magnus Bredeli-Tveiten said the vault is designed to withstand earthquakes — successfully tested by a 6.2-magnitude temblor off Svalbard last week — and even a direct nuclear strike.

Many other seed banks are in less protected areas. For example, war wiped out seed banks in Iraq and Afghanistan, and one in the Philippines was flooded in the wake of a typhoon in 2006.
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Smoke2Live420

Smoke2Live420

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i think it will happen. all you have to do is watch to news to see that. global warming . look at all this crazy weather we are having. london jus had a earthquake and they havent had that in like 20 years or somthin. i think that is what will end the world is global warming.
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

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I have been doing some thinking about the whole Sun, Earth, and center of the galaxy lining up, and I have a question. You say that this happens twice a year right? Well what if the sun is rotating around the galaxy's center one way, and the Earth is rotating around the sun in another? I've tried to draw what I'm thinking...do you understand what I'm saying?
 

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growingmom

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Didn't Nostradomus have many of these predictions too ??? IDK..It just seems like he had a lot of those predictions also. I've not researched it just heard about it so don't anyone blaze me .
 
email468

email468

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Hey Ernie - i do understand what you are saying. The Sun and the Earth are always on the same side of the galactic center. The Earth revolves around the Sun and the Sun and Earth system revolve around the galactic center. But the Sun/Earth system are also revolving around one another as they travel around the galactic center.

So let G represent galactic center, S represents the Sun and E represents Earth


so one day might look like this:
xxxxxxxxxxGxxxxxxxSEx (look it spells SEX!)

the next day...
xxxxxxxxxxGxxxxxxxxESx (see how they are lined up with the galactic center?)

and in a few million years - it would look something like this:
xxESxxxxxGxxxxxxxxxx
xxSExxxxxGxxxxxxxxxx

but the sun and earth are NEVER separated by the galactic center.
xxExxxxGxxxxxSxxxxx <- this is not possible

the twice a year is in reference to our seasons.

if you are still confused i will try to find some diagrams that demonstrate what i am saying for you.
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
email468 said:
Hey Ernie - i do understand what you are saying. The Sun and the Earth are always on the same side of the galactic center. The Earth revolves around the Sun and the Sun and Earth system revolve around the galactic center. But the Sun/Earth system are also revolving around one another as they travel around the galactic center.

So let G represent galactic center, S represents the Sun and E represents Earth


so one day might look like this:
xxxxxxxxxxGxxxxxxxSEx (look it spells SEX!)

the next day...
xxxxxxxxxxGxxxxxxxxESx (see how they are lined up with the galactic center?)

and in a few million years - it would look something like this:
xxESxxxxxGxxxxxxxxxx
xxSExxxxxGxxxxxxxxxx

but the sun and earth are NEVER separated by the galactic center.
xxExxxxGxxxxxSxxxxx <- this is not possible

the twice a year is in reference to our seasons.

if you are still confused i will try to find some diagrams that demonstrate what i am saying for you.
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So the Earth's rotation around the sun is always parrallel to the sun's rotation around the galaxy's center? The Earth is never rotating around the sun perpendicular to the sun rotating around the galaxy's center?

If that makes any sense.:mrgreen:
 
email468

email468

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Erniedytn said:
So the Earth's rotation around the sun is always parrallel to the sun's rotation around the galaxy's center? The Earth is never rotating around the sun perpendicular to the sun rotating around the galaxy's center?

If that makes any sense.:mrgreen:
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yes it makes sense and no they are not always in perfect alignment. But they don't line up the way you are thinking on that special date either. But that is of no consequence with something as large as the galactic center. Sort of like pointing East from NYC, you'll be pointing at Europe (kind of).

Or pointing North you're pointing at Canada (sort of) and south ... well you get the idea.
 
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