DeadheadX - Keeps On Keeping On

DarkWeb said:

I'd try to heat the space the tent is in, and take the heater out of there.

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Thanks. I’ve tried that and it’s just too big a space. Might need to simply run three or get a bigger tent. But I’m prone to thinking this is a light issue, as the leaves affected have consistently been the ones leading the charge and pushing for the light. I was pretty surprised by how tall two of these got, and those are the two snowing issues. Maybe just too much light on the tall stuff? Lower growth is largely fine. Things are a little more even now, but the highest branches were getting loads of light. Appreciate the input.

Day 56 or 57. The Creme de la Chem are coming along nicely. The tall plants both are struggling, though I’m pretty determined to see where they go. Four plants in the tent with the heater, plus too much light - my working theories. Half tempted to pull a plant now to correct for heat concerns (too close to the heater!) but I’m also far enough in I’ll likely let them. I think it’s not a coincidence that the healthiest, greenest plant has been the shortest/furthest from the light. I’ve dialed back to 60% for a while, but I suspect the damage was done when they stretched and I had cranked it up to 80 or so. The colas are filling out quickly, but the top leaves are unhealthy and I might be racing the clock on that one. Clipped off a lot of the curling, dried tips are they are ugly and discouraging, lol. Keeping as much stuff with green left as possible. Might as well let the plant take what she can, even if a leaf is getting ugly. Happy to be corrected if that’s a bad theory. May be a bust, or at least lots of mid or worse from the tall ones. Pretty confident the Creme will produce nice buds. The others may - we will see. Mephisto has definitely been reliable.

Day 65ish. This is becoming a good, bad and ugly grow. Two steps forward (last grow), and now a step back perhaps, though this round should still be productive enough. I’m definitely battling the winter coldness of my basement grow space and the affects of combatting it (damage from heater). The shorter, bushier Creme de la Chem look nice, though they don’t appear to be huge producers. Looks can be deceiving of course, and there is lots going on in the undergrowth. They are both stinky, and after a slow start are moving along fast, with lots of pistils turning over. Still a bit to go, but surprising for their age. The Créme close to the heater shows the close heat exposure (same thing that has the Gorilla far down a bad path, lol! - I’ve put some cedar type pieces as barriers, but too little too late where the damage is done). The taller plants continue to suffer from light/heat exposure (?) earlier in the grow. I’ve stopped rotating them, as in retrospect, everyone got blasted by potentially unhealthy closeness to the heat. I’ve kept the Gorilla there simply because it’s already damaged and I’m happy to have it be the barrier. I look at the Gorilla Cookie in partcular, now almost completely defoliated in the top half due to drying out, dying leaves, and think of what could have been! So many bud sites and colas! Amazingly, she continues to fatten up and is incredibly stinky, and I’m starting to think I’ll get something I can atleast cook with, despite the bad damage. Already more resilient than expected. I’m ready to chop at any sign of rot, but I’m also keeping things dry in there, now @48%, and will let her go, as ugly as things seems. White widow has stabilized since I moved her further from the heat. She’s also fattening up but has damage to lots of the upper leaves, likely to affect her end potential. We’ll see. Particularly interested to see if the Gorilla will continue to fatten up despite her bald condition. The Creme will at least give me a decent harvest of what looks to be nice bud - Mephisto! The others - it’s a wait and see. I’m determined to grow both the tall ones again. So much potential, but I burned them this round. Bunch of shots below. Everyone got watered after I was away for the weekend.

Creme de la Chem are getting there.

DeadHeadX said:

Creme de la Chem are getting there.

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Interested in what it finishes up like. I have a couple of those seeds too.

Day 71 or so. The Creme are fading a bit (as the breeder suggested they will) and are stinky and pretty dense. Excited for these nugs. Calyx’s starting to swell a little. The first may be ready in a a week or less. No hurry, and we’ll see. They’re advertised as a 65 day plant. Could be that Mephisto is not too far off on this one, as I’m likely to harvest about two weeks after that. Their product sort of kicks ass from the varieties I’ve tried.

The tall, burnt plants continue to develop stinky buds despite the damage. The one closer to the heater definitely won’t be what she could have been. This one looks like a great potential producer with better handling (gorilla cookie) though I’m pretty confident I’ll get a good amount of stuff that’s at least cooking quality. The white widow benefited from being moved from the heat and while they don’t look super healthy, she’s kept most of her leaves and is putting on bulk decently, considering the loss of some key fan leaves to the likely burn. Resilient plants. I’ve made some mistakes, but this still looks like it’ll be a productive enough harvest. I’ve definitely learned that one doesn’t need to win beauty contests to produce really nice herb. Fingers crossed.

You're pretty hard on yourself. I think I see some fine smoke ahead for you!

Yeah man, way too hard on yourself. You did awesome in a cold tent. Challenging environments are rough to grow in, and you're taking them past 70 days? I can't even get most of my beans to pop or clones to root in February, and I'm allowed to use the heat.

Take it from the guy whos dehumidifiers both shit out the same week and had milk crust leaves so crusty, I can't even post pics on the community journal.

Nice job man. I hope your smoke lights the way to a sweet set of dead heaven.

Day 75ish. CDLC look like they’re approaching readiness. Might take one within a week or so and let the other go longer as a comparison. Calyxes are a bit swollen though I’d like them to retreat a little more. Trichs are just about all cloudy, though there’s very little amber (some of my autos have never really developed much amber but were clearly ready - may be the case with these). May have passed peak scent for these. Both look like they’ll be rewarding. The two taller plants with the most leaf burn are also maturing. The worst (gorilla cookies) of them has browning pistils though the buds aren’t really swelling up. Not a surprise. The white widow that I moved away from the heat has fared much better, and those flowers are swelling up pretty nicely. Won’t be super pretty with the dead leaves present in the nugs, but whatever. I expect to cook with the Gorilla that got so badly damaged, but the other three plants should all produce good smoke. More on that later. Haven’t put the light above 60% for weeks and that’s likely the peak needed in the future. Running 24/7 lights currently to help prevent temp drops in the cold ambient envi. Getting there.

Day 80. Took down the first of the CDLC this morning. Modest yield, but pretty stinky and dense. She faded to an interesting deep purple, green. The sister plant is close to ready also, and experiencing a more standard fade. I’m not bothered - she’s real close, but I’m also going to let her go a bit longer, for a comparative smoke if nothing else. These are advertised as a medium yielding plant - true, though I am going to wait before introducing LST next round. The WW continues to fill out pretty nicely - marred by lots of dead and damaged leaves. Heat? Light? Nutes? No surprise that the GC is simply fading out with no swell based on all the leaves that she lost. Heat in the tent went up quickly with one of the plants removed, showing how much the stuff close to the heater was absorbing the heat. Not healthy for the root system, surely, though things seemed to level off when I put in the wood pieces as barriers. Lesson learned. I’ll include a group shot despite my embarrassment with two of these, lol. Always learning. CDLC are ending up nicely. Should be good stuff. WW may well produce serviceable weed. GC purely for cooking, if that. We’ll see.

You'll get that dialed in. What's planned for your next run?

DarkWeb said:

You'll get that dialed in. What's planned for your next run?

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Not totally sure. Probably a mix of autos again, and also get a few photos going to put outside when the season allows. Got a little stash of seeds to pick from. Lots of busy personal stuff coming up, so I’m not likely restarting until April. The White Widow ideally has a couple more weeks to go also. Tempted to try the two again that I stumbled on this time, also. Thanks for asking. We’ll see.

Day 83 or so. Here’s one of the CDLC buds on the remaining plant from that pack. First plant drying. The broken Gorilla Cookie can come down anytime, White widow has a bit longer to go. I’ll take pics of those when I chop. Maybe. Got some fade going, but the plant is nearing the end and the buds look nice.

DeadHeadX said:

Day 83 or so. Here’s one of the CDLC buds on the remaining plant from that pack. First plant drying. The broken Gorilla Cookie can come down anytime, White widow has a bit longer to go. I’ll take pics of those when I chop. Maybe. Got some fade going, but the plant is nearing the end and the buds look nice.

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Pretty flower, looks tasty!

Just took my first taste of a CDLC bud that I accidentally lopped off while trimming the first plant. Only four days in a paper bag (with the sugar leaves) but great flavor, nice high. Makes me think the other is probably about where I like it also. I’ll take a closer look later. We’re now around 20 days past the advertised time. Really tasty for a quick dry - classic “good pot” flavor. Not sure exactly what that means or how to describe it, but the CDLC has it. Must be the chem flavor. Excited for the cured harvest of these.

Busy week ahead and I decided to take down the Gorilla Cookie that’s been limping along. The plant’s been suffering from failures I’ll attribute to user error. She hasn’t had anything but sugar leaves powering the process on the colas for some time, and the colas themselves seem to have stalled out. Pistils have been all brown for a bit now, but the flowers haven’t been filling out. I was surprised by the stink and stickiness as I harvested - even wondered if I might have left her a bit longer - but there was lots of dead leafy matter, etc. Timing felt right, especially considering I don’t want to rush the two remaining plants that may well inspire me to chop this week with limited time. Will see. Here’s a last look. Paper bagged the larfy bud and sugar leaves and hung the stuff they will be decent if not a little airy nugs, assuming workable taste and potency. No prizes to be won in my basement, and really only one customer to keep happy. Fingers crossed for this one to have some use. Done right, I can see this being a really productive plant.

Took the White Widow down this morning, day 89ish. Plenty of Amber trichs and too many damaged leaves. This one was much better off than the GC, further affirmation that moving it away from the heat and lowering the light intensity helped stabilize things after the damage had been done. The colas and higher growing buds are nice and dense. I was chopping out too much dead stuff, but so it goes. The plant pulled through with what should be a decent (if not slightly compromised) haul; far better than I expected when the initial damage became apparent. Hanging to dry now. Looking back, I could have spread out the branches more effectively and also removed more lower and inner growth that is pretty larfy and went in with the sugar leaves. But there are lots of good looking buds on this one. We’ll see how she smokes.

Jarred the first harvest of CDLC and monitoring humidity. The stems don’t snap yet, but I also feel they are too dry at that point. Small haul, but stinky and tasty. I was hoping to chop the last one this morning too, but it’ll have to wait till tomorrow or Saturday.

Final chop, day 90, Creme de la Chem number two. This is the most successful plant of the four this grow. She was a late bloomer, so I sort of neglected her which proved to be a benefit - furthest from the light and the heat. Trying hard to learn that lesson, lol. Like the other CDLC, it’s short and stocky and not a huge producer, but these buds are dense and grew all over, very little larf. Next run with these I plan to let them grow taller with less early LST. Real nice plant, as has been true of just about all my Mephisto seeds. Totally different look compared to the sister plant, which looks purplish with smaller buds, but similarly frosty and stinky. Probably a heat proximity thing. Gotta figure that one out. Here’s the last pic, with lots of yellowing, end of life leaves removed. I’ll come back to record dry weight and maybe reflect on taste. Loving the CDLC flavor and glad to have id’d it for myself for future hunts. Recommendations?

I’m coming to the end of a new grow - first plant came down today at around 77 days, a Sangria from 20Twenty Medocino, some freebies from a while back that I’m sad to run out of. This grow I went with four different autos again, ignoring my own advice to myself. One of these I mentioned in another thread, a plant that has had a faded, hungry look from the first cotyledons. I’ve fed it heavily, and some leaves green up over time. The good news, as off as it’s always looked, is that this is a bushy, productive plant (lower right, Samsquanch from Mephisto.) If the buds are as good as the smell, I’ll be excited. Almost ditched this one early on due to the persistent faded look of the new growth. Probably pulling the Creme de la Chem today or tomorrow too (back left). This one was going great until I let it get a little too dried out and some leaves were subsequently damaged by the lights/heat. This was late in the game, I’m hoping the yield will still be as tasty as the ones I grew last go round. Now after three tries, CDLC has proven to be tasty but not super productive. I want to find a more productive chemdawg auto. Last plant is whiskey sour, another freebie and really late bloomer. Almost 80 days in, she looks half that age - not the goal here, of course.

Did a couple things different. Dialed back the light a little, went with a four hour dark period part way into the grow. Less lst at a young age, and more simply spreading of branches as they grew out. I’ll definitely go with this method moving forward. I used more ferts, adding Flower Girl from Dr. Earth every two weeks or so. These buds have much more foxtailing than any of my previous grows. Perfectly happy about it, but I wonder if this is attribitable to the more targeted nutrients. Tent has been considerably warmer than the winter grow that I journaled here. Previous grow was disappointing in some ways, but even the imperfect plants produced buds that kept me high, though flavor suffered. This one should be much better when all is said and done. Here are some pics.

Current grow at around day 38. Grow seven since buying the tent and liberating myself from the commercial/underground market place.

2x Cheese and 2x Gorilla Cookies. Autos again. One plant a couple weeks younger than the others. Got myself a press since the last harvest. Love it. Rosin is the new goal! Always new stuff to learn. Going more aggressive with the Dr. Earth this time. Seeing some burnt tips on the GC, but so far seems good. Went back to pretty heavy LST after going light on the last round (and coming up light too).