dark period before harvest?

chemphlegm said:

is this true though

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chemphlegm said:

some prick the stalk with pins, some pour boiling water over the roots, some bury fresh harvests in the dirt for months until it black molds and composts some before they use it. All of them swear it makes their marijuanas the best around.

different tokes
for different folks

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Budley Doright said:

The black mold is a myth, tried it when I was 14 and all it did was turn what was probably shit even shittier and black lol.

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Indacouch said:

(Ejaculation).....Umb......semen,nut butter.....motion potion..understand?




@Dr. Who I feel you may have won this one ^^^^^^ he just had to ask me ..lol

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chemphlegm said:

its not a myth, it really does happen, people really do this as I described. If they didnt believe it was an improvement
I would have to wonder why they did it at all, those frisky tribes got some strange rituals so....that part might be a myth, one they believe in

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Dr. Who said:

NONE! No real improvements in any way!

Same kind of myth as flushing, molasses, soda pop's, spooge, etc., etc.

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Dr. Who said:

NONE! No real improvements in any way!

Same kind of myth as flushing, molasses, soda pop's, spooge, etc., etc.

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chemphlegm said:

is this true though

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gotty said:

First grow first chop...views on 24 or 48 hr dark period b4 harvest?

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SchmoeJoe said:

Flushing is absolutely necessary if you're using liads of synthetics and carbs from things like molasses create spikes on microbial activity which can have lots of different benefits. As for the rest...

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Budget Buds said:

Used to do it, I never noticed any difference, I'd say dont bother....

Flushing is for toilets... What contributes to a great smell and taste is a proper dry and cure...

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SchmoeJoe said:

Flushing is absolutely necessary if you're using liads of synthetics and carbs from things like molasses create spikes on microbial activity which can have lots of different benefits. As for the rest...

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neckpod said:

I think a flush is only needed in soil/coir as salts can build up, dwc/rdwc does not have this issue so your best to gradually reduce the nutrient levels down as the plant needs less and less.

I agree with above a good slow dry and proper cure makes good weed even better but as i have stated before if the weed is shit it will stay shit even after a cure. SHIT IS SHIT......

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Dr. Who said:

Ah yes, the guy growing 104 outdoor plants with no pictures, and questionable advice....

How's things?

You just showed your hand! Your full of it! Now take the time to actually READ the following!



So just what is "shit weed?" I have never seen any weed, NOT benefit from a proper dry and cure!


I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant!
Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

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SchmoeJoe said:

I've been too busy to care to respond to your challenge. It was actually 120 plants, although I haven't I had a chance to get pictures of the plants on the third tax lot. Between working for this farm and having my own to deal with I haven't had the inclination to respond.

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Dr. Who said:

Fair enough! Thanks.

Still incorrect on flushing though, sorry...

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

i think it more likely it was full of mites, popping like popcorn

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Dr. Who said:

Ah yes, the guy growing 104 outdoor plants with no pictures, and questionable advice....

How's things?

You just showed your hand! Your full of it! Now take the time to actually READ the following!



So just what is "shit weed?" I have never seen any weed, NOT benefit from a proper dry and cure!


I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant!
Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

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SchmoeJoe said:

I don't flush. But I also don't use massive amounts of chelated salt based nutrients. I've definitely seen weed that was so loaded with crap that it crackled and flashed when burned. I have no actual proof but the only thing that made sense was that there might be an excess of magnesium.

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