Custom DIY 240 watt 6 bar LED grow light!!

cobshopgrow

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Have you had a chance to check out the eb3 f90 narrow band phosphor series? I couldn’t find any info on them other than a draft data sheet. https://www.bridgelux.com/sites/default/files/resource_media/DS13x Bridgelux EB Gen3 F90_SE Data Sheet 11032021.pdf
I ended up grabbing 3 trays and was surprised with the results. Nominal 616 for the 1120’s but I’m running them about half of that. 185w in 4x4 veg tent View attachment 5108750
Edit- I did add 4 strips of the thrive 3k on a separate channel. The f90’s are 35k
are you still happy with your F90s?
the concept is quite interesting, i wonder it havent cought more attention here.
would like to know the ppfd output, looks like its quite good.
"For traditional LED technology, higher CRI results in a lower efficacy. By replacing broadband red nitride phosphor with narrowband red Potassium Fluorosilicate (PFS or KSF) phosphor, the F90 LED products can achieve today’s CRI80 LED efficacy with a CRI of 90. "

would prefer the 3000K, which spectrum is given in the datasheet, above is only the 4000K

edit:
hm... checked the product sim on the quick and at nominal the 3000K are just 2.5ppfd, thats a bit average.
could be wrong, need a bigger screen to really check.
 
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MidnightSun72

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are you still happy with your F90s?
the concept is quite interesting, i wonder it havent cought more attention here.
would like to know the ppfd output, looks like its quite good.
"For traditional LED technology, higher CRI results in a lower efficacy. By replacing broadband red nitride phosphor with narrowband red Potassium Fluorosilicate (PFS or KSF) phosphor, the F90 LED products can achieve today’s CRI80 LED efficacy with a CRI of 90. "

would prefer the 3000K, which spectrum is given in the datasheet, above is only the 4000K

edit:
hm... checked the product sim on the quick and at nominal the 3000K are just 2.5ppfd, thats a bit average.
could be wrong, need a bigger screen to really check.
I can never get the horticultural rating to show on the Bridgelux product sim. How do you do that??
 

cobshopgrow

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downloading their XLS and open it.
prob a fake email works too.
used google sheets to open it.
qmol/J is to the right in the table, goes from 2.2-2.9, but i have no feeling for the F90 nomenclature and i am on a 13" notebook atm which is pita for sheets.
if youre on a bigger screen and open the datasheet in parallel you may can decipher the info you want.
 
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loco41

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are you still happy with your F90s?
the concept is quite interesting, i wonder it havent cought more attention here.
would like to know the ppfd output, looks like its quite good.
"For traditional LED technology, higher CRI results in a lower efficacy. By replacing broadband red nitride phosphor with narrowband red Potassium Fluorosilicate (PFS or KSF) phosphor, the F90 LED products can achieve today’s CRI80 LED efficacy with a CRI of 90. "

would prefer the 3000K, which spectrum is given in the datasheet, above is only the 4000K

edit:
hm... checked the product sim on the quick and at nominal the 3000K are just 2.5ppfd, thats a bit average.
could be wrong, need a bigger screen to really check.
Definitely an interesting spectrum. Curious if you would use just these strips for a build or pair them up with some sort of other spectrum?

Either way will be cool to see some more results with the narrowband spectrums.
 

cobshopgrow

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yeah, am curious too, just would need to get a way better picture of them before making any decission, but i honestly considered using them as the only light source (while i do have mono strips too i could alays add).
sadly lots of other stuff to do atm, so guess there is no time for a new build.
on the quick it doesnt look like i could win much in terms of efficacy to what i am using now, but could be wrong.
 

MidnightSun72

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yeah, am curious too, just would need to get a way better picture of them before making any decission, but i honestly considered using them as the only light source (while i do have mono strips too i could alays add).
sadly lots of other stuff to do atm, so guess there is no time for a new build.
on the quick it doesnt look like i could win much in terms of efficacy to what i am using now, but could be wrong.
There's two types of F90 strips they have a high efficiency 90 CRI which is like 195-210lm/w
And the normal F90 which is like 172lm/w.
 

cobshopgrow

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210 would be awesome, i just couldnt find a real product having this?
no strips linked there, but stating >200 lpw.

in this datasheet the max is 172 lpw.
just the links from the last page, nothing new.

210 ones sound awesome, when they have 210 lumen in the visible spectrum with all this red the qmol/s rating could look nice, but so far the max i saw was 2.9 in their sheet.
tempting maybe, but i should see how i get my place heated, and i cant grow over winter anymore anyway, otherwise i would be always in for using less wattage.
happy to hear reports of F90 users of course.

@MidnightSun72 have you been able to check the qmol/s (ppfd) now?
 

MidnightSun72

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210 would be awesome, i just couldnt find a real product having this?
no strips linked there, but stating >200 lpw.

in this datasheet the max is 172 lpw.
just the links from the last page, nothing new.

210 ones sound awesome, when they have 210 lumen in the visible spectrum with all this red the qmol/s rating could look nice, but so far the max i saw was 2.9 in their sheet.
tempting maybe, but i should see how i get my place heated, and i cant grow over winter anymore anyway, otherwise i would be always in for using less wattage.
happy to hear reports of F90 users of course.

@MidnightSun72 have you been able to check the qmol/s (ppfd) now?
This 4K is 196lm/w
 

MidnightSun72

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210 would be awesome, i just couldnt find a real product having this?
no strips linked there, but stating >200 lpw.

in this datasheet the max is 172 lpw.
just the links from the last page, nothing new.

210 ones sound awesome, when they have 210 lumen in the visible spectrum with all this red the qmol/s rating could look nice, but so far the max i saw was 2.9 in their sheet.
tempting maybe, but i should see how i get my place heated, and i cant grow over winter anymore anyway, otherwise i would be always in for using less wattage.
happy to hear reports of F90 users of course.

@MidnightSun72 have you been able to check the qmol/s (ppfd) now?
Yes I am able to see it now. It doesn't show up for every colour temp and CRI. Thank you.
 

Sparkled

Member
Narrow band phosphors (CRI90)
vs
Typical broad-band phosphor (CRI90)


quote:
"...but if we used only one type of LED it would be CRI90 broad-band
because of the more balanced red spectrum including far red which has shown proven results."

Narrow band phosphors need more users reviews,
 

MidnightSun72

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