Curing with grove bags ….question

ChrispyCritter

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A properly sealed bag/jar/bucket is going to do the same thing.
If you burp them. Grove bags don't require burping. What you're saying is like a windbreaker does the same thing as a gore -tex jacket. Not the same. At least read the posts, or better yet, do some research before you make generalizations about the subject. Have a great day.
 
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Rurumo

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A properly sealed bag/jar/bucket is going to do the same thing.
I totally get why people are dubious about Grove bags, I was too at first. I used to use plastic turkey bags to cure back when I was growing outdoors, but I decided to try them during my last cycle because one of my buddies swears by them. They are totally unlike curing in a sealed jar or sealed plastic/mylar bag-the grove bags really do what they say they do with off gassing. I have tons of mylar bags around for storing food long term, but I would never pick one over a grove bag. You really have to see the results for yourself to be convinced-that's how it was for me. I cured a jar full of buds along with the bags during my last cycle and there was no comparison between the two-the jarred buds were very average by comparison. Months later I open up one of these grove bags and the terps are so fresh and pure it blows my mind, while the jarred buds have that muted "cured" smell, where you can't really single out a specific odor, more like a generalized mild "fruity" smell, rather than a sharp strawberry or blueberry. Nothing I've ever tried has protected the terps like these bags. One tip for those who try these-don't heat seal the bag right away. Keep your hygrometer in the window until the RH is stable where you want it without burping. Depending on how wet/dry your buds are, you might need to reduce the moisture more before sealing them in-too much moisture and the bags won't keep up with it. Once I see them stable for a day at 55%, I seal them in and they are golden. The lower RH in the buds is very important to protect your terpenes-when people jar up their buds too moist, that's the worst thing you can do for your terps.
 

ChrispyCritter

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I'm on my first cure with Grove bags. I can't say for sure what my results will be like but I've read as much as I could find about them including both good and bad reviews. Most negative reviews I've read were by people who never tried them but were still certain they were a rip off. I decided to try them and see for myself. @Rurumo your tips are helpful for sure. I wish I'd had your info before I sealed mine up at 62%, but ill just see how it goes when I open mine up. Improvements in technology are awesome especially when the risk of trying them is low. Something like Gove bags may improve home growers have quality buds. Many small growers like me don't have time to be home all day to burp jars every 4 hours etc. so this is particularly helpful for us. Its too bad new things that help growers are met with so much scepticism and negativity (remember when so many thought LED lights would never work to grow good bud?). Ultimately to each his own, but naysayers without experience or facts don't help anyone learn or get better. Thanks for your post @Rurumo. I'm glad Grove bags work for you and I hope they do for me too.
 

RonnieB2

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Does anyone have a link to which ones I should get I went to there site there’s so many kinds I heard they were better than jars and was wondering what type should I get it
I use the 1 pounder that's terp and uv proof. I think it's called terp logic. I was skeptical of these bags but they are legit AF. I don't burp them or anything if you're humidity is 62 just seal them up in a cool dry area
 

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Kenny1234

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It's good to have the hygrometers even if you use grove bags-you can put one in the bag and see it through the window. You don't need to use the bags, but for myself, I actually just ordered 10 more 1/4 and 1/2 lb bags to last my next several grow cycles. Also, whether or not you need to "burp" them depends on how moist the buds are when they go in-you can't put overly moist buds in and expect the bags to dry them for you. I like to put them in at 55% (58% would be fine too) because I think the lower RH preserves the terpenes better. Right now is my least favorite time of the year to dry buds because the temps are hot and my indoor RH can get low real fast-so just try your best to dry at 70 deg or lower and 55% RH-the further away from those #s you get, the more your final product will suffer-see if you can stretch out your dry to 10 days (that's about as good as I hope for during the summer). Some people don't even grow during the summer because the drying is such a PITA. My buds from my last grow cycle have been in grove bags for the last couple of months and they are by far the terpiest and freshest buds I've grown in a long time, probably ever. You can always try a jar of buds alongside your bags and see how they compare after curing. This is one new product I actually believe in because the results are so good. Send me a dm if you need any help with the bags!
Ya I got 6 half pound grove bags From the website had to call and the lady the manager just sent me five because they only sell the dispensaries and they sell 100 patch for like 500 bucks and I only wanted 5/2 pound bags and I put my bud one button yesterday the grove bag and sealed it for like 30 minutes are in an hour and opened It So since it had the hair smell when I opened it I figure wait another day before I put it in there here’s pictures of my weed it’s Bears OG Mephisto and gsc
 

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Kenny1234

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I totally get why people are dubious about Grove bags, I was too at first. I used to use plastic turkey bags to cure back when I was growing outdoors, but I decided to try them during my last cycle because one of my buddies swears by them. They are totally unlike curing in a sealed jar or sealed plastic/mylar bag-the grove bags really do what they say they do with off gassing. I have tons of mylar bags around for storing food long term, but I would never pick one over a grove bag. You really have to see the results for yourself to be convinced-that's how it was for me. I cured a jar full of buds along with the bags during my last cycle and there was no comparison between the two-the jarred buds were very average by comparison. Months later I open up one of these grove bags and the terps are so fresh and pure it blows my mind, while the jarred buds have that muted "cured" smell, where you can't really single out a specific odor, more like a generalized mild "fruity" smell, rather than a sharp strawberry or blueberry. Nothing I've ever tried has protected the terps like these bags. One tip for those who try these-don't heat seal the bag right away. Keep your hygrometer in the window until the RH is stable where you want it without burping. Depending on how wet/dry your buds are, you might need to reduce the moisture more before sealing them in-too much moisture and the bags won't keep up with it. Once I see them stable for a day at 55%, I seal them in and they are golden. The lower RH in the buds is very important to protect your terpenes-when people jar up their buds too moist, that's the worst thing you can do for your terps.
So u put a hygrometer in the grove bags …I have boveda packs also at 58 humidity and 62 humidity packs should I put a boveda in with a hygromter …. They say the bags themselves lower the humidity to between 58 and 62 but I put one of my fire buds in yesterday and I open the grove van about two hours later and it kind of smells like hay so I know it’s a little to wet how dry to u get it like by stem barely snaps should I wait til a little more dry and if I do put boveda in the groves at first before I heat seal which one should I put the 58 humidity boveda pack or the 62…
 

Kenny1234

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I totally get why people are dubious about Grove bags, I was too at first. I used to use plastic turkey bags to cure back when I was growing outdoors, but I decided to try them during my last cycle because one of my buddies swears by them. They are totally unlike curing in a sealed jar or sealed plastic/mylar bag-the grove bags really do what they say they do with off gassing. I have tons of mylar bags around for storing food long term, but I would never pick one over a grove bag. You really have to see the results for yourself to be convinced-that's how it was for me. I cured a jar full of buds along with the bags during my last cycle and there was no comparison between the two-the jarred buds were very average by comparison. Months later I open up one of these grove bags and the terps are so fresh and pure it blows my mind, while the jarred buds have that muted "cured" smell, where you can't really single out a specific odor, more like a generalized mild "fruity" smell, rather than a sharp strawberry or blueberry. Nothing I've ever tried has protected the terps like these bags. One tip for those who try these-don't heat seal the bag right away. Keep your hygrometer in the window until the RH is stable where you want it without burping. Depending on how wet/dry your buds are, you might need to reduce the moisture more before sealing them in-too much moisture and the bags won't keep up with it. Once I see them stable for a day at 55%, I seal them in and they are golden. The lower RH in the buds is very important to protect your terpenes-when people jar up their buds too moist, that's the worst thing you can do for your terps.
Here’s some pics it’s so fire
 

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Rurumo

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So u put a hygrometer in the grove bags …I have boveda packs also at 58 humidity and 62 humidity packs should I put a boveda in with a hygromter …. They say the bags themselves lower the humidity to between 58 and 62 but I put one of my fire buds in yesterday and I open the grove van about two hours later and it kind of smells like hay so I know it’s a little to wet how dry to u get it like by stem barely snaps should I wait til a little more dry and if I do put boveda in the groves at first before I heat seal which one should I put the 58 humidity boveda pack or the 62…
I like to keep my buds a little less moist than the common 58-62% that people use as the standard. I wouldn't use boveda packs with the grove bags since they are able to deal with some moisture-I haven't experimented with them enough to know if they will maintain RH at 62-personally I'd let them dry a bit more outside of the bags until they hit 55-58%, then they are ready for the bags. They might be 100% fine going in the bags at 62%. I just think that people are really dancing with the threat of mold when they dry at 60 deg/62% RH. I think people will do that right up until they get mold through their harvest, then they'll start drying at a little warmer temps/lower RH. I just keep the hygrometer in the bags until I see the RH stabilize where I want it, and stay there for a day or so, then I take them out and seal the bag. I'm glad to see you guys trying these out, I think they're awesome for new growers as well as old.
 

Rurumo

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I'm on my first cure with Grove bags. I can't say for sure what my results will be like but I've read as much as I could find about them including both good and bad reviews. Most negative reviews I've read were by people who never tried them but were still certain they were a rip off. I decided to try them and see for myself. @Rurumo your tips are helpful for sure. I wish I'd had your info before I sealed mine up at 62%, but ill just see how it goes when I open mine up. Improvements in technology are awesome especially when the risk of trying them is low. Something like Gove bags may improve home growers have quality buds. Many small growers like me don't have time to be home all day to burp jars every 4 hours etc. so this is particularly helpful for us. Its too bad new things that help growers are met with so much scepticism and negativity (remember when so many thought LED lights would never work to grow good bud?). Ultimately to each his own, but naysayers without experience or facts don't help anyone learn or get better. Thanks for your post @Rurumo. I'm glad Grove bags work for you and I hope they do for me too.
I think you'll be pleased with the results. Two big areas where new growers make mistakes are in harvesting too early-which misses out on a lot of terpene development at the end of a grow, and just general trouble with drying/curing. The bags really smooth over the drying/curing process.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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I'm in on this. They're not that expensive, look like a more convenient storage method than jars to me and the additional ability to self-regulate moisture content sounds just about perfect. I ordered in 10x quarter pound bags to try out. I have some Durban Poison hanging and drying right now, so they should show up just about when its time to go from drying to cure. Now just to read up further on the most effective way to use them.
 

Nutty sKunK

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I like to keep my buds a little less moist than the common 58-62% that people use as the standard. I wouldn't use boveda packs with the grove bags since they are able to deal with some moisture-I haven't experimented with them enough to know if they will maintain RH at 62-personally I'd let them dry a bit more outside of the bags until they hit 55-58%, then they are ready for the bags. They might be 100% fine going in the bags at 62%. I just think that people are really dancing with the threat of mold when they dry at 60 deg/62% RH. I think people will do that right up until they get mold through their harvest, then they'll start drying at a little warmer temps/lower RH. I just keep the hygrometer in the bags until I see the RH stabilize where I want it, and stay there for a day or so, then I take them out and seal the bag. I'm glad to see you guys trying these out, I think they're awesome for new growers as well as old.
They don’t seem to keep it between 58-62%. Just stabilise at whatever RH the bud is. Well at least for me so far.

The smells tho are the most complex I’ve ever had! Don’t leak smell, store better.

Im converted for good. Just gutted I didn’t have them earlier when I had some fire wedding cheesecake which tasted like vanilla, cream and blueberries with a cheesy undertone.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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How hot a heat sealer do you need for these? I actually have one that was part of a shrinkwrap rig, and I'm wondering if that'll be enough or I need something beefier. BTW, having a shrinkwrap system at home is nice...any place that won't allow opened returns? I can just re-wrap and take it back.
 

Kenny1234

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I think you'll be pleased with the results. Two big areas where new growers make mistakes are in harvesting too early-which misses out on a lot of terpene development at the end of a grow, and just general trouble with drying/curing. The bags really smooth over the drying/curing process.
Ya I put a bud in the a mason jar the one in pic im I supposed it’s still moist inside because After a few hours it’s not like hay so took it out how it smells dank again left out for a few hours … Now I have it back in the mason jar with the Vveta pack 58 humidity and I noticed it rise to 64 because I have a hygrometer and they’re taped to the top so that obviously means since it’s not going to 58 the bud has moisture in it correct??
 

Rurumo

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Ya I put a bud in the a mason jar the one in pic im I supposed it’s still moist inside because After a few hours it’s not like hay so took it out how it smells dank again left out for a few hours … Now I have it back in the mason jar with the Vveta pack 58 humidity and I noticed it rise to 64 because I have a hygrometer and they’re taped to the top so that obviously means since it’s not going to 58 the bud has moisture in it correct??
yes, you want to see it stay stable at your desired RH % for an entire day or so
 

Rurumo

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How hot a heat sealer do you need for these? I actually have one that was part of a shrinkwrap rig, and I'm wondering if that'll be enough or I need something beefier. BTW, having a shrinkwrap system at home is nice...any place that won't allow opened returns? I can just re-wrap and take it back.
I'm not sure, I just used a flat iron for hair.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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I'm not sure, I just used a flat iron for hair.
I have one of those around too. I'm going to try my already on hand options before buying something new.

I'm working a slow dry right now and trying to let it stretch out (62% & 68F) then I'll bag 'em up and see where it goes. I opted for the quarter pound bags since I think it will allow me to open and have open reasonably small quantities at any given time to keep as much sealed as possible.
 

RonnieB2

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Ya I got 6 half pound grove bags From the website had to call and the lady the manager just sent me five because they only sell the dispensaries and they sell 100 patch for like 500 bucks and I only wanted 5/2 pound bags and I put my bud one button yesterday the grove bag and sealed it for like 30 minutes are in an hour and opened It So since it had the hair smell when I opened it I figure wait another day before I put it in there here’s pictures of my weed it’s Bears OG Mephisto and gsc
Nice nugs. I been thinking about growing 3 bears. I have the seeds. But I'm on a rocbud kick and gas reaper genetics right now. Both are incredible. If you haven't tried gas reaper you really should. Especially hellbender and macaruntz. North Atlantic Seed bank has a sale actually
 

RonnieB2

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So u put a hygrometer in the grove bags …I have boveda packs also at 58 humidity and 62 humidity packs should I put a boveda in with a hygromter …. They say the bags themselves lower the humidity to between 58 and 62 but I put one of my fire buds in yesterday and I open the grove van about two hours later and it kind of smells like hay so I know it’s a little to wet how dry to u get it like by stem barely snaps should I wait til a little more dry and if I do put boveda in the groves at first before I heat seal which one should I put the 58 humidity boveda pack or the 62…
I use a hydrometer every where my buds are. Drying curing and storage
 
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