Creation Vs. Evolution

MrFishy

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Evolution. I don't know anyone who would want to go to heaven if it were filled with holier-than-thou hypocrites. I was an altar boy and played priest as a youngster, until a priest slapped me around for not saying that serving a Tuesday Night Novena (Roman Catholic) was the most amazing thing I'd ever done.
Besides, who'd Cain marry and where'd she come from?
 

South Texas

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Fuck. Good question. Food for thought. Without the moon, stars & sun, there was no "time" reference as we see it today. Meaning that on the 1ST, 2ND, 3Rd, 4Th 5TH, 6TH or 7TH day, of "Creation", there very well could have been millions of years in between the "On the 1ST day", to the 7TH day. The first day; light, then it went from there. My belief is that evolution began & has not stopped since.
Plants in veg state grow twice as fast if given 24/7 lighting. Once we had indoor lighting, out average height grew from average 5' 7" to 5' 11".
Each living being has either offense or defense, and all in between, to survive. The frog, for instance,, has no offensive moves, so it evolved into a defensive creature. Webbed feet, camouflaged , etc. The horse, grew longer legs. The Hippo, not too swift, grew the long self-defensive horn. Animals ate certain plants. The plants either grew taller due to the threat, or made a self- defense system, thorns Etc. Giraffes suffered, grew longer necks to survive. Buffalo's could run, so horns was not that big. Spanish Bulls could not run as fast, so grew longer horns- (The Texas Longhorns)
I don't have a clue.
 

pamaris

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Theistic evolution. ie... evolution happened just like science says but God determines it. Don't know whether He just started things off or whether He's involved in every step. Doesn't matter. Best book to read on the subject is 'The Language of God' by Frances O'Connor. Dude mapped the human genome but is actually a believer.

My parents are typical young-earth-creationists. Obviously that's what I grew up believing. It took until I was 28 to find out that evolution is not based on a foundation of Jello.

Basically, the Bible is not a science book. So we shouldn't look for scientific validation in figurative language.

Another thing- when God spoke the world into existence, it prolly caused a big bang.
 

MrFishy

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Just heard a stat the other day that relates . . . if Earth's creation were a 24 hour clock, Man wouldn't have appeared until the last 2 seconds . . . and look at all the damage done by same. AND it can't all be bad stuff, so figure one second of good.
 

ElBarto

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"Creation" is a myth.

"Evolution" is a scientific theory.

"Creation or evolution?" is like asking chocolate or the Dallas Cowboys?
 

Dfunk

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I say both. Why? duality would be my answer. One can not exist without the other.
 

overfiend

HeavyMetalHippie
evolution is obvious if you look around at all the wonderful strains that have "evolved" over the last decade. but its pretty amazing that the earth has always had life and other planets dont at least all the ones we know about. maybe there is something special about us? or to look at it another way we were all "created by our evolving mother earth"
 

Dfunk

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I have a theory on who/what God is. God is simply energy in it's pure form...the LIGHT if you will. Just a theory.
 

330nuggz

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def creation.... where did the elements for the 'big-bang' come from? you cant have elements floating randomly around the universe unless something (god) created them.
Besides, who'd Cain marry and where'd she come from?
if god created one chick, why cant he create two?
 

vantheman169

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Man I was raised catholic and I am 27 Now and i have been a believer all my life, and i watched this movie called Volcanoes of the Deep Sea. I reccommend anybody that is interested in this subject WATCH THIs smoke a phat one and watch it, it will blow your mind!!! I am wondering if we didnt evlove......In fact i saw it on TV and I liked it so much i bought it on ebay, it will have you thinkin for real. Here is a link to what the movie is called. Amazon.com: Volcanoes of the Deep Sea: Ed Harris, Stephen Low: Unbox Video

Watch it or if anybody has seen it, please share what you think!

Another one in BLU-RAY is Blue Planet. man cool as shit.
 

matthew

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def creation.... where did the elements for the 'big-bang' come from? you cant have elements floating randomly around the universe unless something (god) created them.

if god created one chick, why cant he create two?

The big bang has nothing to do with evolution. You are confusing biology with astronomy.
 

Florida Girl

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Evolution..... and not just here on planet earth.... the whole universe and all its life forms are constantly evolving ;)
 

kash959

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Man I was raised catholic and I am 27 Now and i have been a believer all my life, and i watched this movie called Volcanoes of the Deep Sea...
Blue planet is amazing... Is the deep sea volcanoes about those hot vents that give out toxic gases but some bacteria can transform that into energy which feeds crabs and stuff?
 

kash959

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Where do you stand and why?
I just want to begin by saying that things do evolve. Evolution does happen. However, how does that mean that there is no God. I think it only adds to his creativity. He wants the universe to flow like water and that's what he has done. However, i don't believe that humans evolved because we are different from animals in a sense that we can do shit like communicate with the accuracy that is surpassing every other level. I want you to think of something and then make up a word for it. How the fuck would you convey that to another human and the other human will understand it. The other human will be like "What the fuck is this guy talking about at all?!?".

What about colours? When you say to someone "Black". He'll be like what the fuck is black? You'll say "Black colour". He'll say "What's colour". Then what will you say to him to explain what colour is?

I have a theory though. In the Quran (the book that i believe in & no i am not Bin Laden's bitch), it says that when man was made, God taught him the names of things. That would explain why people used to be so proud of carrying on their family name and how languages developed.

Lastly, evolution is all about what happened through the centuries. Not how it began and how it sustained. Or how animals figured out that Oxygen can be used to create enery. And even that you can eat your fellow animals to feed yourself. Also, what about the big bang. Think of molecules and the atoms that make them and the quarks that make the atom and whatever makes the quarks which we dont know about yet. Did they also evolve out of nothing?
 

ElBarto

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I want you to think of something and then make up a word for it. How the fuck would you convey that to another human and the other human will understand it.

Well, for example, I might pick up a rock, bang you on the forehead with it, and then say "rock".
 
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