Cost of 99 plant limit?

a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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cpgsc3xK559 said:
Would anybody care to actually answer the orginal question? Its coming to the end of july and im trying to get a figure for next season. Ive never grown outdoors before but im going to be partnering with several experienced outdoor/indoor growers (im more of an investor/protege) ive figured out the county i want to grow (sonoma or yuba) where they have a no more than 99 plants per 20 acre law, they all have to be in the same designated area (meaning you cant throw 20 here 20 there) and im already wondering does this mean 99 per patient? Because if not i have a whole lot more figuring out to do, but anyways heres where im at. I figure

1) $180,000-$220,000 for the land
2) $75,000-$100,000 for a tractor
3) 99 400-gallon pots (im going with spring pots @ $80.89)= $8,008.11
4) Soil to fill the pots now this is where i get lost. Ive yet to actually contact a soil company to help me out with this but i figured id jump on a forum before i waste a salesmans time with questions.
So i figure,
99pots x 400gal = 39600 gallons.
39600 gallons = 5,293.75 cb. ft
On google i found 1.5 cb. Ft. Bags of fox farms ocean forest in a pallet of 62 for $989. That means id need at least 3529 bags of soil, or 57 pallets, which comes out to $56,373 on soil (which seems a little ridiculous to me)
5) I still need to figure out how much perlite or lime im going to need.
6) I figure you need at least 99,000 sq ft to work with, so that means creating a fence at least 6ft high and no higher than 8ft (county laws) that stretches around a 2 acre perimeter. After searching various forums i concluded this cost to be anywhere around $20,000-$25,000.
7) And if you're going to spend anywhere around $200,000 on a plot of land it better have a well on it, so watering should not be an issue for the first 10 years or so.

So right now im at $389,295. I figure if you round up to oh lets say $420,000 for anything i may have missed, and your plants produce at least a pound each, youll have your parcel and tractor paid off in at least 7-8 years. Which makes me wonder.... Is all this even worth it? Am i forgetting something crucial? Id like to know, as im serious about this. Any help or guidance would be great
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You could have issues with the county of sonoma with water. Serious about water over here. Not sure where you'll get land for 200 k for 20 acres. Good luck with your garden!!!
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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cpgsc3xK559 said:
Would anybody care to actually answer the orginal question? Its coming to the end of july and im trying to get a figure for next season. Ive never grown outdoors before but im going to be partnering with several experienced outdoor/indoor growers (im more of an investor/protege) ive figured out the county i want to grow (sonoma or yuba) where they have a no more than 99 plants per 20 acre law, they all have to be in the same designated area (meaning you cant throw 20 here 20 there) and im already wondering does this mean 99 per patient? Because if not i have a whole lot more figuring out to do, but anyways heres where im at. I figure

1) $180,000-$220,000 for the land
2) $75,000-$100,000 for a tractor
3) 99 400-gallon pots (im going with spring pots @ $80.89)= $8,008.11
4) Soil to fill the pots now this is where i get lost. Ive yet to actually contact a soil company to help me out with this but i figured id jump on a forum before i waste a salesmans time with questions.
So i figure,
99pots x 400gal = 39600 gallons.
39600 gallons = 5,293.75 cb. ft
On google i found 1.5 cb. Ft. Bags of fox farms ocean forest in a pallet of 62 for $989. That means id need at least 3529 bags of soil, or 57 pallets, which comes out to $56,373 on soil (which seems a little ridiculous to me)
5) I still need to figure out how much perlite or lime im going to need.
6) I figure you need at least 99,000 sq ft to work with, so that means creating a fence at least 6ft high and no higher than 8ft (county laws) that stretches around a 2 acre perimeter. After searching various forums i concluded this cost to be anywhere around $20,000-$25,000.
7) And if you're going to spend anywhere around $200,000 on a plot of land it better have a well on it, so watering should not be an issue for the first 10 years or so.

So right now im at $389,295. I figure if you round up to oh lets say $420,000 for anything i may have missed, and your plants produce at least a pound each, youll have your parcel and tractor paid off in at least 7-8 years. Which makes me wonder.... Is all this even worth it? Am i forgetting something crucial? Id like to know, as im serious about this. Any help or guidance would be great
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Just an FYI,
Yuba county recently adopted the shasta outdoor ban=no more outdoor growing in Yuba county.
 
cpgsc3xK559

cpgsc3xK559

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Aeroknow said:
Just an FYI,
Yuba county recently adopted the shasta outdoor ban=no more outdoor growing in Yuba county.
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Well this certainly brings me back a step since I was basing my land estimates on property values in Yuba specifically. Im set on the idea of a 99+ plant grow. Due to the volume of business my network conducts, I need a farm able to meet the demand im facing. In this day of age I didnt really consider guerilla grows, but honestly would this be a better gamble? Id hate to go search for another county with the 99plant max, find and invest in land JUST to follow county laws and still have it seized by federal agents. I read recently that a new bill was passed preventing Federal Agents from interfering with anybody thats within the confines of state law, but it just makes me wonder.. does that bill even change anything on the cultivators side?
 
cpgsc3xK559

cpgsc3xK559

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a mongo frog said:
You could have issues with the county of sonoma with water. Serious about water over here. Not sure where you'll get land for 200 k for 20 acres. Good luck with your garden!!!
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Well i was hoping to stay away from sonoma county due to how expensive land is out there. But if yuba county is fucked and santa cruz too then im pretty sure that just leaves sonoma county with the 99plant laws? I could be wrong but it will now take more research.. Which brings me to the question of plot sharing; are there many openminded landowners in sonoma county would you say? I wouldnt mind splitting a harvest with a landowner if it was a reasonable split.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Legal in AK said:
First it's a doctor's rec, second you linked to a case which the defendant only had a doctor's recommendation for 8 ounces but was in possession of 12. Had he not cheaped out the issue would have never gone to court. I paid $200 for my 99 plant rec in Sac
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You got scammed. Courts in California do not honor nor recognize 99 plant recs.

That case is a precedent set in the supreme court of california saying you can exceed plant limitations set by local ordinance as long as you can prove its all for you and your patients. Otherwise to legally grow 99 plants in California you need to have a collective consisting of at least 18 patients. Or be a care giver. But a care giver requires ro be an actual care giver not just a grower. Meaning you have take care of the patients every needs that they are unable perform on their own.

Most of california only allows 8 ounces and 6 mature or 12 immature per patient. In mendo and humby it's 3 pounds. And their plant limit is a 100 Sq ft.


Why do you think all.the dispensaries make copies of recs and give free weed for first timers. They use those recs for their collective grow.
 
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UrbanOrganix

UrbanOrganix

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@hyroot you are completely right, the 99 plant rec has been a very profitable scam by doctors perpetuated by the grey area of MMJ laws.. you're better off forming a collective and getting people with recs to join!
 
Legal in AK

Legal in AK

Active Member
Not sure why you are trying to make assumptions about MY medical history. It's not a scam, it's a very legitimate thing, but go ahead and keep making things up if you want. The case you linked to is very weak and doesn't set any precedent. The patient wasn't trying to use a 99 plant card, they had an 8 oz card like I said earlier...

hyroot said:
You got scammed. Courts in California do not honor nor recognize 99 plant recs.

That case is a precedent set in the supreme court of california saying you can exceed plant limitations set by local ordinance as long as you can prove its all for you and your patients. Otherwise to legally grow 99 plants in California you need to have a collective consisting of at least 18 patients. Or be a care giver. But a care giver requires ro be an actual care giver not just a grower. Meaning you have take care of the patients every needs that they are unable perform on their own.

Most of california only allows 8 ounces and 6 mature or 12 immature per patient. In mendo and humby it's 3 pounds. And their plant limit is a 100 Sq ft.


Why do you think all.the dispensaries make copies of recs and give free weed for first timers. They use those recs for their collective grow.
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potroastV2

potroastV2

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are no plant number limits for patients in California.

The 6 mature, or 12 immature plant limit that was established by the State Assembly in SB420 was found to be unconstitutional by the Kelly Supreme Court decision.

Never pay extra for a recommendation that "allows" more plants, it is not necessary, and the doctors that offer it are scamming patients to get more money.

All you need is a doctor's recommendation.

:mrgreen:
 
ejwilson

ejwilson

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I live in Contra Costa County. Where can I get a 99 plant limit at. I don't even need 99. Id like to grow 30-40 plants indoor
 
S

Sbx3

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rollitup said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are no plant number limits for patients in California.

The 6 mature, or 12 immature plant limit that was established by the State Assembly in SB420 was found to be unconstitutional by the Kelly Supreme Court decision.

Never pay extra for a recommendation that "allows" more plants, it is not necessary, and the doctors that offer it are scamming patients to get more money.

All you need is a doctor's recommendation.

:mrgreen:
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How much is it to grow 99 plants?
 
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