Continual Slime in DWC

Vumar

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Never even thought about that but yes I'm sure your right. I'll check it out when I'm done the gallon I just bought lol. Probably be good till next fall when I move back indoors. I only grow inside for 8 months then the Tourists start coming back and there's just to many people around. I head to the swamp and get eatin by bugs lol.
Your worried about legal issues and others in the area smelling it? Your in a tourist area huh? with the assumption it isnt legal by your state yet. I am going to guess around the Florida area? You've got plenty of swamp there. Accessible via boat. I like your style.
 

Budley Doright

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you know whats cheaper than hydro guard.. just buying bacilius spores in bulk powder form... That is all that is in those jugs of water you are buying.
So where do I buy this powdered form without buying a tanker full lol. Searched a few sites but they were all industrial bulk shippers that dealt in tons not teaspoons. Even a pound would be overkill for my small indoor thing. Paid $50 for the hydroguard and it will last beyond the shelf life so if not for this glitch I would have pulled 4 runs at a cost of 12.50, I'll live with that lol.
 

Budley Doright

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Your worried about legal issues and others in the area smelling it? Your in a tourist area huh? with the assumption it isnt legal by your state yet. I am going to guess around the Florida area? You've got plenty of swamp there. Accessible via boat. I like your style.
I wish Florida, doubt I'd be in the swamp in the summer there though, get kinda hot lol. No I'm just north of the border in Ontario. And yes by boat, and nope no tourist go there. But I have seasonal people all around my place. When we were running lots of plants we would have a guy fishing and watching while other was working. Only way in was by boat or air drop so pretty safe. It has its draw backs though and is quite weather dependant as to the work required. My last run I did by myself and had 55 going. The day after harvest I had them in the back of. 5 ton van parked at my place when a cop showed up to see about a break in at another place, he was standing 30' away from what smelled like a skunks arse, last one I did and that was 6-7 years ago lol. Just getting too risky at my age and I'm doing ok after 30 years of doing the outdoor thing, just a hobby now.
 

redi jedi

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I wish Florida, doubt I'd be in the swamp in the summer there though, get kinda hot lol. No I'm just north of the border in Ontario. And yes by boat, and nope no tourist go there. But I have seasonal people all around my place. When we were running lots of plants we would have a guy fishing and watching while other was working. Only way in was by boat or air drop so pretty safe. It has its draw backs though and is quite weather dependant as to the work required. My last run I did by myself and had 55 going. The day after harvest I had them in the back of. 5 ton van parked at my place when a cop showed up to see about a break in at another place, he was standing 30' away from what smelled like a skunks arse, last one I did and that was 6-7 years ago lol. Just getting too risky at my age and I'm doing ok after 30 years of doing the outdoor thing, just a hobby now.
We might be neighbors from the sounds of things...:)
 

Budley Doright

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:roll: Perhaps lol. I'm pretty close to the Thousand Islands region. A 5 min boat ride State Side even though I'm not allowed there due to a glitch lol.
 

Budley Doright

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And just an update, it's back!!! Went out yesterday and one plant was drooping so checked the roots and yup, all brown and shrivelled WTF. Got looking around and found that the spray pump was on cont. and remembered the day before I checked the nozzles for blockages. How in less than 24 hours could my roots go from noodle looking to dead grass, temps were good, PH was 8.5, EC was .7.
 

ttystikk

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And just an update, it's back!!! Went out yesterday and one plant was drooping so checked the roots and yup, all brown and shrivelled WTF. Got looking around and found that the spray pump was on cont. and remembered the day before I checked the nozzles for blockages. How in less than 24 hours could my roots go from noodle looking to dead grass, temps were good, PH was 8.5, EC was .7.
PH too high. No root zone sterilant? This is why I won't do aero!
 

Budley Doright

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PH to high? I thought 5.8 was perfect and nope no sterilants as I was hoping hydroguard and SM90 would do it. This is the last time I run sprayers yes lol. Going back to my original setup this weekend
 

ttystikk

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PH to high? I thought 5.8 was perfect and nope no sterilants as I was hoping hydroguard and SM90 would do it. This is the last time I run sprayers yes lol. Going back to my original setup this weekend
I'm sorry it didn't work out. If I could figure out some way to boost the reliability of the approach I'd be all over it. Since I couldn't, I'm sticking with RDWC.
 

Budley Doright

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Ya it's strange as this is the start of the second season using this rig and the first season (3 runs) went without a glitch. Oh well I'm tired of cheating this shit, time to fill the cupboards before spring.
 

Budley Doright

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Well I was wondering about that lol. I did actually read up on it and supposedly it does not harm the bennies but could be way wrong. I didn't add them together until I saw that the rot had returned, and was only using the hydroguard.
 

Budley Doright

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I guess the moral of this story is desperate times call for desperate measures right lol. So not sure anything will be helping this run other than nuking the whole thing if this ever finishes with a couple of gallons of H2O2 run through it. Starting over is going to remove a lot of stress lol.
 

legallyflying

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Hard to say. I had a "desperate" rdwc run several years back and nuked it with physian 20. Then benies.. the plants looked fine but didn't grow for like 3 weeks.

Look dude. Tystk and I do this shit for a living. And I'm not taking oh wow.. 10k watts. We are talking $150k + commercial build outs. My overhead is 20k a month so when she goes wrong.. it HURTS. It hurts REAL bad.

I currently have 96 5' tall plants, 55 2' plants and 55 small plants in DWC.

1. We never ever never let the water get above 67, ever. Typically it's 63-65.

2. We add 5 gallons of beneficial tea to our 200 gallon reservoirs twice a week.

3. We never use any kind of coco or dirt or whatever... it ALL has bugs in it.

4. New airstones every round. Yes, we buy 50 air stones a month :(

I have not seen root rot in about a year.
 

gand3r

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Legallyflying

I've tried Dwc several times and always thought I had root rot. I was always hung up on white roots, even when plants were growing crazy with slightly tanned roots I pulled the down in fear of rot. Always had perfect temps.

Do you always check the roots, do you get worried if roots are a slight yellow. When do you worry about rot?
 

Budley Doright

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Legallyflying

I've tried Dwc several times and always thought I had root rot. I was always hung up on white roots, even when plants were growing crazy with slightly tanned roots I pulled the down in fear of rot. Always had perfect temps.

Do you always check the roots, do you get worried if roots are a slight yellow. When do you worry about rot?
I'm sure these guys no more about it than I do but from what I witnessed they are not perfectly white but more of an ivory color and when running tea they are a light syrup color. It's pretty easy to see the rot start and with my plants it started in the middle with the hairs starting to stick to each other. The clumps would progressively turn darker and start to drop off. The healthy roots are plump and look like cooked spaghetti lol. I think an off white is fine, but as soon as they started clumping I knew I had issues. I think with DWC the trick would be to get the oxygen deep into the root mass and as I've never done that I have no clue, other than lots of bubbles, how to do that. My setups are designed (hopefully) to survive a day or two with out power and with flooded root zones, power failures can be pretty unforgiving IME.
 

Budley Doright

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Hard to say. I had a "desperate" rdwc run several years back and nuked it with physian 20. Then benies.. the plants looked fine but didn't grow for like 3 weeks.

Look dude. Tystk and I do this shit for a living. And I'm not taking oh wow.. 10k watts. We are talking $150k + commercial build outs. My overhead is 20k a month so when she goes wrong.. it HURTS. It hurts REAL bad.

I currently have 96 5' tall plants, 55 2' plants and 55 small plants in DWC.

1. We never ever never let the water get above 67, ever. Typically it's 63-65.

2. We add 5 gallons of beneficial tea to our 200 gallon reservoirs twice a week.

3. We never use any kind of coco or dirt or whatever... it ALL has bugs in it.

4. New airstones every round. Yes, we buy 50 air stones a month :(

I have not seen root rot in about a year.
I'm glad your able to make a living doing what you obviously love. I was able to provide a great life for my family over the years but not without a few grey hairs in the process. Landing planes on ice by car light. Running trucks through Texas , Weeks without rain and camping by the fields. When I meet up with the crew every year we sit and laugh for a week about all the shit we did 20 years ago. Indoor legal seems like it would be a bit less stress lol. Perhaps if I was younger I might still be in the game but oh well I'll continue to struggle through my little 1000 watt hobby grow. Hope with the help of you guys I'll finally get it dialled.
 
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