Conservatism and cognitive ability are negatively correlated

Dr Kynes

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you seem entirely unable to do anything but drop right wing dog whistles like "science". "science", of course, always deserves to have quotation marks around it because, unlike religion, "science" is just a "theory" and not to be trusted. not like baby jesus. tobacco doesn't cause cancer, that's just "science" trying to mislead you.

are your hands still slippery from furiously trying to achieve an erection for the last 6 hours?
orly? right wing dog whistles? like "gonna put you back in chains" is a left wing dog whislte, or "healthcare" when he means mandated insurance for everyone, and guaranteed profits for insurance companies?

also, i had a pesky erection earlier tonight, and i savagely subdued it after a few minutes of contemplation and meditation. (porn)

as im not a christian your slanderous inferences that i am somehow a member of some ultra right evangelical congregations is weak as water.

i love science, science is awesome. but the trappings of science in service to a political agenda is just dogma, not science.
 

Mr Neutron

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orly? right wing dog whistles? like "gonna put you back in chains" is a left wing dog whislte, or "healthcare" when he means mandated insurance for everyone, and guaranteed profits for insurance companies?

also, i had a pesky erection earlier tonight, and i savagely subdued it after a few minutes of contemplation and meditation. (porn)

as im not a christian your slanderous inferences that i am somehow a member of some ultra right evangelical congregations is weak as water.

i love science, science is awesome. but the trappings of science in service to a political agenda is just dogma, not science.
+ rep if I could, great post
 

UncleBuck

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Peer reviewed study:

"conservatism and cognitive ability are negatively correlated."

Madbro?
that's just "science". "science" is just "theory". don't be ridiculous. dr. kynes, and his complete lack of refutation, is to be trusted above your "peer reviewed" "study".
 

Dr Kynes

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LOL

I started this thread with links tardboy. Gam-gam didn't teach you much apparently.
those are the "scientific peer reviewd studies" your bitching about? those were opinion pieces no studies cited in any of them, just like the "'study" from the opinion poll group that says fox news makes people less informed than those who "consume no media".

political pandering dressed up in a lab coat over it's clown shoes.

you and bucky characterize me as a hate filled bircher (though you dont know anything about the John Birch Society you didnt read in the press or hear on msnbc) and declare i must be ignorant of the facts of economics (which is not a science, and contains no facts only opinions) and the nature of our republic and the manner in which it has been perverted by "progressive" wankers with an agenda to turn the US Constitution into a watered down communist manifesto.

you dont even know who creates the opinions you parrot so gleefully, nor the standards to which real science must adhere.

since there is no consensus on what makes up liberal or conservative views, nor any manner to scientifically determine how any particular group thinks or feels on such issues (only opinion polls), nor any universally accepted method for determining the intelligence of any person with any degree of clinical accuracy (again only nebulous opinions created by psychologists who are pretty much just witch doctors with a book deal) your entire premise is based on a fundamentally flawed hypothesis.

if academic degrees are the test of intelligence then clearly a study could be done to determine how doctoral candidates view various political issues, yet no such study is forthcoming.

why has no such study been done? because real scientist know that such a survey would elicit the answers that the respondents feel would please the questioner, not their real views. thats why we cast secret ballots, so doctrinaire goosestepping leftists cannot shame the voter into bowing to social pressures to conform to the view that is deemed politically correct. if our ballots were not secret, and voters coiuld be pilloried for their votes in the ballot box prop 8 in california would have failed miserably.

those who opposed gay marriage would feel the pressure to conform to the politically correct newthink which makes opposition to gay marriage tantamount to setting up gas chambers for gay people. as it stands, prop 8 passed, banning gay marriage in the most liberal leaning state in the union. so i guess 58% of california voters are slack jawed troglodytes with an IQ hovering around 65, and an education level approximating third grade in more enlightened states like massachussets.

oh but wait, california voted massively in favor of BHO, so i guess we can be smart when it suits us, before we once again start huffing freon between presidential election cycles.

you started this intellectual abortion of a thread with shitty opinion pieces with no science to support their claims, and not even a link to their "methodology", simply the nebulous statement that their findings were "peer reviewed". in every crackhouse in oakland, "peer review" makes it obvious that the "scientific consensus" firmly establishes the superiority of "Twump Rocks" over "Tenners". clearly you stand with the consensus of your peers in support of Fat Butter Rocks over tiny shards of crack.

this leaves only the burning question of the day, straight stems or proper glass bowls? we must wait for the next issue of Basehead Quarterly to find the answer.

Edit: ohh yeah, and your insults to my Gam-Gam were so poorly crafted i forgot about them completely. did you expect me to fly into a rage and internet toughguy all over you? sorry, but my Gam-Gam could kick your ass in a debate, or in a knife fight, may the ancestors hold her spirit in their embrace. Gam-Gam was quite racist in her charming old people from the south way, and her lengthy dissertations on MLK were a thing of wonder. she could skillfully weave hate, invective and doubts of his very humanity into a delightful stream of consciousness rant that would wither the ears of most Klansmen, while never hating anyone for the mere fact of their skin colour. she was a very progressive racist in that she despised MLK's message and his "uppityness" and frequently made me bust up with laughter as she lamented the lack of competent slave catchers these days. even at the ripe age of 92 she was a firebrand for the south's inevitable defeat of northern aggression, while she fried catfish and made delicious crawdad biscuits. and through it all she never once said the word "nigger" except in the supermarket when she asked for some brazil nuts for her special recipe pecan pie. apparently even the elderly black shopkeeper sometimes called them "nigger toes" as well. she smoked like a chimney, drank like a fish, and always gave sweets to the local children regardless of their skin colour. all in all she was a paragon of a bygone day, when insulting the man was not racism, even if he was black.

her comments on italians and swedes were similarly politically scanadalous, and she held a special place in her vocabulary for the english. she was a fenian when being a fenian was unpopular, she donated money to the birchers but never joined, and voted democrat since she got the right to vote in her early 20's.

My Gam-Gam's political views may not have been very popular in the modern world but she never flinched from her steadfast assertion that slavery was a shame, and it had to end, but when you start giving people a free ride because their ancestors were slaves then half the world had reparations coming from somebody.

the way you leftists talk, one might think that Jefferson Davis sat down with Nathan Bedford Forrest and invented the concept of slavery just to keep the black man down. shockingly, slavery existed all over the world long before the age of enlightenment when it began to be viewed as uncivilized and exploitative.
 

abandonconflict

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those are the "scientific peer reviewd studies" your bitching about? those were opinion pieces no studies cited in any of them, just like the "'study" from the opinion poll group that says fox news makes people less informed than those who "consume no media".

political pandering dressed up in a lab coat over it's clown shoes.

you and bucky characterize me as a hate filled bircher (though you dont know anything about the John Birch Society you didnt read in the press or hear on msnbc) and declare i must be ignorant of the facts of economics (which is not a science, and contains no facts only opinions) and the nature of our republic and the manner in which it has been perverted by "progressive" wankers with an agenda to turn the US Constitution into a watered down communist manifesto.

you dont even know who creates the opinions you parrot so gleefully, nor the standards to which real science must adhere.

since there is no consensus on what makes up liberal or conservative views, nor any manner to scientifically determine how any particular group thinks or feels on such issues (only opinion polls), nor any universally accepted method for determining the intelligence of any person with any degree of clinical accuracy (again only nebulous opinions created by psychologists who are pretty much just witch doctors with a book deal) your entire premise is based on a fundamentally flawed hypothesis.

if academic degrees are the test of intelligence then clearly a study could be done to determine how doctoral candidates view various political issues, yet no such study is forthcoming.

why has no such study been done? because real scientist know that such a survey would elicit the answers that the respondents feel would please the questioner, not their real views. thats why we cast secret ballots, so doctrinaire goosestepping leftists cannot shame the voter into bowing to social pressures to conform to the view that is deemed politically correct. if our ballots were not secret, and voters coiuld be pilloried for their votes in the ballot box prop 8 in california would have failed miserably.

those who opposed gay marriage would feel the pressure to conform to the politically correct newthink which makes opposition to gay marriage tantamount to setting up gas chambers for gay people. as it stands, prop 8 passed, banning gay marriage in the most liberal leaning state in the union. so i guess 58% of california voters are slack jawed troglodytes with an IQ hovering around 65, and an education level approximating third grade in more enlightened states like massachussets.

oh but wait, california voted massively in favor of BHO, so i guess we can be smart when it suits us, before we once again start huffing freon between presidential election cycles.

you started this intellectual abortion of a thread with shitty opinion pieces with no science to support their claims, and not even a link to their "methodology", simply the nebulous statement that their findings were "peer reviewed". in every crackhouse in oakland, "peer review" makes it obvious that the "scientific consensus" firmly establishes the superiority of "Twump Rocks" over "Tenners". clearly you stand with the consensus of your peers in support of Fat Butter Rocks over tiny shards of crack.

this leaves only the burning question of the day, straight stems or proper glass bowls? we must wait for the next issue of Basehead Quarterly to find the answer.
FDR, Krugman, Marx, Darwin, AMLO, Robespierre, KJV bible, Dhammapada, Bob Marley, many others.

Just because you doubt the methodology does not mean the studies are biased. It just means you like to ignore evidence.
 

Canna Sylvan

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that's just "science ." "science" is just "theory."don't be ridiculous. dr. kynes, and his complete lack of refutation, is to be trusted above your "peer reviewed" "study."
Your scientific ability is only dwarfed by your grammar and syntax ability, Hemmingway.
 

Dr Kynes

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FDR, Krugman, Marx, Darwin, AMLO, Robespierre, KJV bible, Dhammapada, Bob Marley, many others.

Just because you doubt the methodology does not mean the studies are biased. It just means you like to ignore evidence.
you think krugman darwin the anglican bible and robespierre would agree with your poorly thought out assertions that not wanting random change for change's sake makes people stupid?

also:
FDR was a socialist when socialism was considered a great new idea. his cousin Theodore turned over in his grave every time Franklin made america into more of a copy of european indolence and subservience.

Krugman's views are irrelevant. he is a piss poor thinker and a failed economist. he is shackled to the political views of the progressive movement and cant take a shit unless he clears it with the the International Worker's Party and the ComIntern.

Marx was a dreamer, a dilettante, and a son of privilege who urged others to rise up and overthrow the society that made his halfassed writing possible. in earlier times he would have been stoned in the town square and buried in secret so his grave didnt get violated.

Darwin was a naturalist, and a devout christian. his views on current events can only be assumed, not stated with certainty.

i have no clue what or who "AMLO" might be but thats why you threw it in the list, so you could feel smart because i dont know your dogwhistles.

Robespierre? thats the guy you think has deep thoughts on the intellectual aptitude of those who dissent from the progressive views? you are aware that he chopped heads off any who dared question his regime and paved the way for napolean's rise to power ushering in decades of war and unrest?

Dhammapada? whatever. i suppose if i dont read every obscure text you can google then i must be ignorant of all the things you think are true. if your views are consistent with this dhammapada then i assume its also mindless bullshit.

Bob Marley makes a great bassline, and had some hits, should we also inquire as to the economic views of the Jonas Brothers or Right Said Fred? perhaps Lady Gaga can share her wisdom as well?

and last but not least, as to the King James Version of the christian bible, the anglican bible (as it should be more properly described) was crafted to curtail all the things you hold dear, i reckon you need to read that twaddle again before you start claiming jesus was a marxist prophet.
the king james bible's many references to the virtue of sacrifice and poverty were a dodge, a hustle to convince the emerging Burgher class of shopkeepers and traders to surrender their newfound wealth to the church and the state lest they face the peril of their souls. these rules never applied to the ruling class or the clergy and the church. only to the masses of peasants and the upwardly mobile craftsmen and traders who were destabilizing the social structure in the medieval era.

perhaps you could opine on the Malleus Malefacarum, or the Apocrypha of Paul to prove you rate a discussion of theology with myself. after all this is the issue at hand, religious dogma disguised as political dissent. you feel better if you decry all heretics as dimwits, while the faithful are wise and just. i suppose in your narrow world view thats all that matters, how it all makes you FEEL.
 

abandonconflict

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you think krugman darwin the anglican bible and robespierre would agree with your poorly thought out assertions that not wanting random change for change's sake makes people stupid?

also:
FDR was a socialist when socialism was considered a great new idea. his cousin Theodore turned over in his grave every time Franklin made america into more of a copy of european indolence and subservience.

Krugman's views are irrelevant. he is a piss poor thinker and a failed economist. he is shackled to the political views of the progressive movement and cant take a shit unless he clears it with the the International Worker's Party and the ComIntern.

Marx was a dreamer, a dilettante, and a son of privilege who urged others to rise up and overthrow the society that made his halfassed writing possible. in earlier times he would have been stoned in the town square and buried in secret so his grave didnt get violated.

Darwin was a naturalist, and a devout christian. his views on current events can only be assumed, not stated with certainty.

i have no clue what or who "AMLO" might be but thats why you threw it in the list, so you could feel smart because i dont know your dogwhistles.

Robespierre? thats the guy you think has deep thoughts on the intellectual aptitude of those who dissent from the progressive views? you are aware that he chopped heads off any who dared question his regime and paved the way for napolean's rise to power ushering in decades of war and unrest?

Dhammapada? whatever. i suppose if i dont read every obscure text you can google then i must be ignorant of all the things you think are true. if your views are consistent with this dhammapada then i assume its also mindless bullshit.

Bob Marley makes a great bassline, and had some hits, should we also inquire as to the economic views of the Jonas Brothers or Right Said Fred? perhaps Lady Gaga can share her wisdom as well?

and last but not least, as to the King James Version of the christian bible, the anglican bible (as it should be more properly described) was crafted to curtail all the things you hold dear, i reckon you need to read that twaddle again before you start claiming jesus was a marxist prophet.
the king james bible's many references to the virtue of sacrifice and poverty were a dodge, a hustle to convince the emerging Burgher class of shopkeepers and traders to surrender their newfound wealth to the church and the state lest they face the peril of their souls. these rules never applied to the ruling class or the clergy and the church. only to the masses of peasants and the upwardly mobile craftsmen and traders who were destabilizing the social structure in the medieval era.

perhaps you could opine on the Malleus Malefacarum, or the Apocrypha of Paul to prove you rate a discussion of theology with myself. after all this is the issue at hand, religious dogma disguised as political dissent. you feel better if you decry all heretics as dimwits, while the faithful are wise and just. i suppose in your narrow world view thats all that matters, how it all makes you FEEL.
Thomas Jefferson, Plato, Kierkegaard, Descartes, Joe Rogan, President Not Sure, Smedley Butler, many others.
 

Dr Kynes

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Thomas Jefferson, Plato, Kierkegaard, Descartes, Joe Rogan, President Not Sure, Smedley Butler, many others.
thomas jefferson would shit his velvet pantaloons if he knew you were tying him in with your flawed understanding of political discourse economics or science.

you have clearly never read plato, or if you did you mistakenly believed that The Republic he envisioned was what he thought was a good idea. his discussions with his students makes it clear to the astute mind that he was educating them on the impossibility for any nation to survive under the control of a single person even if he were a benevolent philosopher king.

Kierkegaard. meh. why not Immanuel Kant while youre at it. if we are gonna trot out failed philosophies from the distant past why stop there? absolutism, nihilism, and alchemical philosophy are such rich areas for the stripmining. maybe if you shovel enough crap you can find a nugget that supports your beliefs in the Code of Hammurabi as well?

Descartes: see above. i always preferred Voltaire.

Joe Rogan: Carlos Mencia already stole Rogan's material, your just receiving stolen goods. if you want to do that shit, open a pawn shop like a respectable wide boy.

whatever president you have labeled "not sure" i dont care. could be clinton, could be carter, but i disagree with their political agendas as vehemently as i do yours.

smedley butler? did i miss some part of his works where he advocated socialist re-engineering of the constitution and usury tax codes? or did you assume i would not know who you were talking about?

you love to drop the names of obscure or only tangentially related individuals from history and imply thet they stand shoulder to shoulder with you on the march towards socialist utopia. why not dig up the bones of the Brothers Gracchi or Quintus Caecillius Metellus Numidicus. again i side with Gaius Marius and Publius Rutilius Rufus on those scores. i can dig up obscure sources too, unfortunately for you i have READ these sources, and understood their words.

whats next? Origen, or Simon Magi? why not really go deep and drag Joseph Plumm Martin out of your ass? i suppose he too was a nationalist democratic socialist with a bent towards true marxism as well?
 

abandonconflict

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Writing is like farting, if you have to try, it is probably shit. Dude, you are only writing to impress yourself.

I was naming influences, not implying they "stand shoulder to shoulder" or what ever wannabe Shakespeare you are attempting.
 

NoDrama

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The latest debate between you two has clearly shown the premise of this thread to be a bunch of hogwash.
 

abandonconflict

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The latest debate between you two has clearly shown the premise of this thread to be a bunch of hogwash.
Well that is certainly the consensus among the right from what I gather. Why don't you check the studies again, let's see what they indicate.
 

NoDrama

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Well that is certainly the consensus among the right from what I gather. Why don't you check the studies again, let's see what they indicate.
What studies? There were no studies, just one guy making assumptions based on statistical data. I will admit the data had some merit, but its just a hypothesis at this point.

If you actually read those articles you will come to see that two of them are just reviews of the guy who ran the statistics and the other two are merely opinion pieces. None of this was peer reviewed in any real scientific circle.
 

abandonconflict

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What studies? There were no studies, just one guy making assumptions based on statistical data. I will admit the data had some merit, but its just a hypothesis at this point.

If you actually read those articles you will come to see that two of them are just reviews of the guy who ran the statistics and the other two are merely opinion pieces. None of this was peer reviewed in any real scientific circle.
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Madbro?
 
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