Why Conservatives Are Happier Than Liberals (Poll)

I am..

  • Liberal & happy

    Votes: 6 31.6%
  • Liberal & unhappy

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • Conservative & happy

    Votes: 6 31.6%
  • Conservative & unhappy

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 3 15.8%

  • Total voters
    19
its not that they conspire its just thats its very black and white, level headed, easy to understand, so it must be true right? When the world is laid out for you in black and white easy to understand philosophy that provided an answer for almost everything WITHOUT the need to "congregate" then life is grand, ignorance is bliss.

If you ask a conservative "what does it mean to be a conservative" they will tell you flat out and all will have similar answers. Ask a liberal the same thing except for "What it mean to be a liberal?" and every one will give you a different emotional answer. To be so confused you must be very unhappy.


Black and white, studies indicate that conservatives are very troubled by the unresolved, they have difficult times with "we don't really know" answers, or worse, no answer at all. Liberals are not so troubled with such things, hence a conservavtive will go out of his way and beyond reality to discover satisfactory resolutions where a liberal will not as he is confortable with such things. I have posted what I believe it means to be a liberal and it is not emotional at all.
 
Black and white, studies indicate that conservatives are very troubled by the unresolved, they have difficult times with "we don't really know" answers, or worse, no answer at all. Liberals are not so troubled with such things, hence a conservavtive will go out of his way and beyond reality to discover satisfactory resolutions where a liberal will not as he is confortable with such things. I have posted what I believe it means to be a liberal and it is not emotional at all.

I think you are full of shit
Becuase nothing you say
is in the bible or the constitution
 
Black and white, studies indicate that conservatives are very troubled by the unresolved, they have difficult times with "we don't really know" answers, or worse, no answer at all. Liberals are not so troubled with such things, hence a conservavtive will go out of his way and beyond reality to discover satisfactory resolutions where a liberal will not as he is confortable with such things. I have posted what I believe it means to be a liberal and it is not emotional at all.
This in of itself is an emotional response lol, It seems that you don't fully understand conversavatism, they have a straightforward answer for everything and its really simple. I can debate as a conservative easily, to debate as a liberal I would have to ask what kind of liberal? This is pretty typical of a liberal to ask "Why would anyone be a conservative?", they honestly just don't get it. Further evidenced by the fact that often liberals come up with crazy theories about what makes conservatives tick.

[video=youtube;XtRN0z_QZGg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtRN0z_QZGg[/video]
 
This in of itself is an emotional response lol, It seems that you don't fully understand conversavatism, they have a straightforward answer for everything and its really simple. I can debate as a conservative easily, to debate as a liberal I would have to ask what kind of liberal? This is pretty typical of a liberal to ask "Why would anyone be a conservative?", they honestly just don't get it. Further evidenced by the fact that often liberals come up with crazy theories about what makes conservatives tick.

[video=youtube;XtRN0z_QZGg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtRN0z_QZGg[/video]



Except I base my opinions on psychological and sociological studies of the conservative mentality and find that those studies tend to bear out my personal findings. Not so emotional really but observational. I was talking in another thread about the realtive weight of opinion, Altmeyer's opinion has more weight than mine (bob altmeyer has done a number of studies of the right wing authoritarian), and mine has more weight than many who have not followed such studies.
 
Except I base my opinions on psychological and sociological studies of the conservative mentality and find that those studies tend to bear out my personal findings. Not so emotional really but observational. I was talking in another thread about the realtive weight of opinion, Altmeyer's opinion has more weight than mine (bob altmeyer has done a number of studies of the right wing authoritarian), and mine has more weight than many who have not followed such studies.

Science is valuable don't get me wrong but without understanding both psychology and the philosophy how can you say you understand the big picture? To really understand conservatism you have to understand the philosophy. Also If you can't debate as a conservative then you obviously do not grasp it fully. Your posts show me that you have a lack of understanding as to what makes conservatives tick, no offense, your not at all alone.
 
Science is valuable don't get me wrong but without understanding both psychology and the philosophy how can you say you understand the big picture? To really understand conservatism you have to understand the philosophy. Also If you can't debate as a conservative then you obviously do not grasp it fully. Your posts show me that you have a lack of understanding as to what makes conservatives tick, no offense, your not at all alone.

I can only judge them on their actions or inactions deprave, I cannot really know what makes them tick because I am not that good at imagining such things. I believe I could debate as a conservative but it would be a half hearted attempt. This is the reason we have the studies we do, in order to attempt to understand their actions by way of understanding their motivations. Now what exactly is their philosophy? You see, because I see so much compartmentalization in the conservative mind, I can not grasp or even see a cogent, unified "philosophy" that unifies their ideology with their actions with their concepts and world view.
 
I can only judge them on their actions or inactions deprave, I cannot really know what makes them tick because I am not that good at imagining such things. I believe I could debate as a conservative but it would be a half hearted attempt. This is the reason we have the studies we do, in order to attempt to understand their actions by way of understanding their motivations. Now what exactly is their philosophy? You see, because I see so much compartmentalization in the conservative mind, I can not grasp or even see a cogent, unified "philosophy" that unifies their ideology with their actions with their concepts and world view.

Good response, and a difficult one to answer without pretending I am conservative for a moment because conservatism doesn't really have a legitimate place in philosophy specially, its just based on philosophical part of our brains.....a liberal response "There's your problem your using facts to understand conservatives." :P

I won't go there.

There is your example really its philosophy vs science......conservatism is some kind of fucked up mish mash of philosophies, Minarchism and Neoliberalism joined, so If I started going on about the philosophical understandings between these two ideologies then I would be giving a conservative argument.

I believe that Left Vs Right is kind of Yin vs Yang really, I even go as far as to argue that conservatism appeals to the masculine and liberalism appeals to feminine. This is perfect for those in power in a two party system, a nice even divide.
 
Good response, and a difficult one to answer without pretending I am conservative for a moment because conservatism doesn't really have a legitimate place in philosophy specially, its just based on philosophical part of our brains.....a liberal response "There's your problem your using facts to understand conservatives." :P

I won't go there.

There is your example really its philosophy vs science......conservatism is some kind of fucked up mish mash of philosophies, Minarchism and Neoliberalism joined, so If I started going on about the philosophical understandings between these two ideologies then I would be giving a conservative argument.

I believe that Left Vs Right is kind of Yin vs Yang really, I even go as far as to argue that conservatism appeals to the masculine and liberalism appeals to feminine. This is perfect for those in power in a two party system, a nice even divide.



there is where we have a problem - I contend that there is no ideological symetry between left and right, that they are not mirror images of each other and that the right claims it to be so in order to have their errant arguments accepted as "simply the other side of the coin". Altmeyer does not describe conservativism per se but right wing authoritarianism, the thing is that a huge percentage of all conservatives do fall under that heading and a very large percentage of new (as opposed to neo) conservative leaders are authoritarians, most of them classicaly so. Conservatives, as we both seem to agree, thrive on certainty even in situations where there logicaly can be no such thing and so they create it for themselves, or more often for their brethren. This is a reason conservatives flock toward evangelical religions and distrust science.
 
I think for the most part liberals possess empathy whereas conservatives lack it, that's been my experience from almost 50 years on this planet.
 
I think for the most part liberals possess empathy whereas conservatives lack it, that's been my experience from almost 50 years on this planet.

You might be right, but in my experience, liberals rarely act upon it, they give great lip service though.
Conservatives on the other hand, are much more likely to help out and show generosity.
 
You might be right, but in my experience, liberals rarely act upon it, they give great lip service though.
Conservatives on the other hand, are much more likely to help out and show generosity.

I volunteer at church
I give money to the church
I give money to charity

I am an atheist and a liberal

Any questions?
 
I volunteer at church
I give money to the church
I give money to charity

I am an atheist and a liberal

Any questions?

I have a conservative buddy that drives a Prius, doesn't believe in God and has a pink breast cancer awareness sticker on his Harley. Any questions?
 
Do you remember those SAT type questions where they say something like, True or False "Not all conservatives are racists, but all racists are conservatives"

I hated those questions.

Just Saying.....
 
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