Coco or water?

ComputerSaysNo

ComputerSaysNo

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xtsho said:
If I was going to do bottom feed I'd just use fabric pots on a capillary mat.
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Either that, or a variation of it. At this point I'm only interested if top feeding even has any merit over bottom feeding (wicking). Having to deal with waste at all does matter (you've mentioned buckets of water in the tent). If there's waste water but no drain, that means pumps and buckets and hoses.

For me it's either an Autopot (have used it, works very well) or a rail with water in it with the buckets sitting on top and wicking from below (like the Hooch Bucket or equivalent). A system like Blumats (clever) is only worth it if the drip feed actually makes a difference to the plant (I do not know if that's the case).
xtsho said:
No way I'd fiddle around with buckets of water in my tent.
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It's a major pain in the ass unless there's a water source and and a drain in the grow room. For the water source, there's at least the possibility of running a hose from the tap, but the lack of a drain means hauling buckets of water to a disposal site.
Then there's the problem of dumping mineral nutrients; not advised to flush it down the drain.

xtsho said:
DWC is an effective method of growing. I just don't think it's worth the hassle when other simpler methods just as effective exist.
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I have to admit that I'm fascinated by the technological aspect of it, but the amount of moving parts is just impractical. One does end up with a system that needs constant babysitting, and sometimes it's just not possible. Especially not in a situation where you can't put anybody else on the task (either the grow is illegal in the first place, or it's a one-man operation).

What really made me pause and change my mind about all this was when StinkBud said, that while he thinks his aeroponic system is great, growing in coco is just as good and with way fewer downsides. And the man has years of experience with a truly impressive self-made system.

Also I've grown in coco with bottom feeding and really did not run into any problems, despite having limited experience, and the results were astonishing, and the system was so hands-off and handled so well, I'm just not ready to believe any longer that any active system has enough benefits for the home-grower to be worth implementing.
 
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xtsho

xtsho

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ComputerSaysNo said:
Either that, or a variation of it. At this point I'm only interested if top feeding even has any merit over bottom feeding (wicking). Having to deal with waste at all does matter (you've mentioned buckets of water in the tent). If there's waste water but no drain, that means pumps and buckets and hoses.

For me it's either an Autopot (have used it, works very well) or a rail with water in it with the buckets sitting on top and wicking from below (like the Hooch Bucket or equivalent). A system like Blumats (clever) is only worth it if the drip feed actually makes a difference to the plant (I do not know if that's the case).

It's a major pain in the ass unless there's a water source and and a drain in the grow room. For the water source, there's at least the possibility of running a hose from the tap, but the lack of a drain means hauling buckets of water to a disposal site.
Then there's the problem of dumping mineral nutrients; not advised to flush it down the drain.


I have to admit that I'm fascinated by the technological aspect of it, but the amount of moving parts is just impractical. One does end up with a system that needs constant babysitting, and sometimes it's just not possible. Especially not in a situation where you can't put anybody else on the task (either the grow is illegal in the first place, or it's a one-man operation).

What really made me pause and change my mind about all this was when StinkBud said, that while he thinks his aeroponic system is great, growing in coco is just as good and with way fewer downsides. And the man has years of experience with a truly impressive self-made system.

Also I've grown in coco with bottom feeding and really did not run into any problems, despite having limited experience, and the results were astonishing, and the system was so hands-off and handled so well, I'm just not ready to believe any longer that any active system has enough benefits for the home-grower to be worth implementing.
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1212ham

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bk78 said:
They are from grow tek USA. Owner is a member here @Sk-one
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Thanks for posting the water rings, ordered one of each size to try out. Next time I think it's going to be coco and a Grotek. Hmm... maybe sooner! :)

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bk78

bk78

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1212ham said:
Thanks for posting the water rings, ordered one of each size yesterday. Next time I think it's going to be coco and a Grotek. Hmm... maybe sooner! :)

Products

Are you tired of tending to your indoor garden? The Fertigation Manager is an automated irrigation controller that takes the hassle out of drain to waste hydroponics.
www.growtekusa.com www.growtekusa.com
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It’s fun toying around with new shit. Really digging the system so far, they are getting 1000ml every 2 hours. Still playing around with feed times and quantities.

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Beezelbuz

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ComputerSaysNo said:
Either that, or a variation of it. At this point I'm only interested if top feeding even has any merit over bottom feeding (wicking). Having to deal with waste at all does matter (you've mentioned buckets of water in the tent). If there's waste water but no drain, that means pumps and buckets and hoses.

For me it's either an Autopot (have used it, works very well) or a rail with water in it with the buckets sitting on top and wicking from below (like the Hooch Bucket or equivalent). A system like Blumats (clever) is only worth it if the drip feed actually makes a difference to the plant (I do not know if that's the case).

It's a major pain in the ass unless there's a water source and and a drain in the grow room. For the water source, there's at least the possibility of running a hose from the tap, but the lack of a drain means hauling buckets of water to a disposal site.
Then there's the problem of dumping mineral nutrients; not advised to flush it down the drain.


I have to admit that I'm fascinated by the technological aspect of it, but the amount of moving parts is just impractical. One does end up with a system that needs constant babysitting, and sometimes it's just not possible. Especially not in a situation where you can't put anybody else on the task (either the grow is illegal in the first place, or it's a one-man operation).

What really made me pause and change my mind about all this was when StinkBud said, that while he thinks his aeroponic system is great, growing in coco is just as good and with way fewer downsides. And the man has years of experience with a truly impressive self-made system.

Also I've grown in coco with bottom feeding and really did not run into any problems, despite having limited experience, and the results were astonishing, and the system was so hands-off and handled so well, I'm just not ready to believe any longer that any active system has enough benefits for the home-grower to be worth implementing.
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Amen to that dude. I have grown several cycles in coco now and still learning but love it. So far the babysitting required is just more inconvenient because the roots are in the way. Where as coco I can manage ec and ph at each feed.

Who knows tho maybe I'll fall in love with it. Still haven't finished first grow on pure water grow yet
 
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