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im currently on a drip system drain to waste with SPecial Mix coco Gold label (brand). im currently feeding them every other day 2 hours into the 12hr light cycle. how many gallon should each plant be getting at various stages along flowering to harvest. and whats the best way to clear the root system of old nutrients and introduce the next feed. is that something that just happens naturally?
 

bubbels

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im currently on a drip system drain to waste with SPecial Mix coco Gold label (brand). im currently feeding them every other day 2 hours into the 12hr light cycle. how many gallon should each plant be getting at various stages along flowering to harvest. and whats the best way to clear the root system of old nutrients and introduce the next feed. is that something that just happens naturally?
when the pots have lost 50% of the weight feed them, and let them get 10-30% runoff. the runoff will take care off the older nutes in the coco so always let it be runoff so it doesent build up salts. i think that answers boath your questions and sinnce i dont know your pot size i dont know how many gallons it takes to get 10-30% runoff so you do the math on that one. Good luck
 

oHsiN666

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would you agree that Sunshine Mix Advanced #4 is a coco medium. its a soil-less medium. with soil in it, but i was told to treat it as hydro. i was having super awesome results 3-4 weeks in shit started to take a dive. i don't know exactly what happened. some growth looks good and healthy, but im loosing a shit ton of leafs on the bottom, and now im starting to see yellow leafs through out some of the plants. its not an even yellowing like a nitrogen def. its def something else. i was told coco was more forgiving. and so far it has been. i just got a ph meter the other day and now am keeping my ph in the good zone 5.8-6.1. so im praying things go back to looking awesome soon. because as of now, my search for mothers is looking rather grim. if i post pics, can someone please advise me of my situation? in the begging i was watering every other day. i got gnats and now im watering only when the pots are light and the soil is dry, almost bone dry. but i heard its good, because by making the plants search for water the plants grow faster. maybe thats why the all are tall and almost normal looking. i was also told that because im using the Sunshine Mix Advanced #4, its what is keeping them alive. i didn't start feeding the, til the 3rd, maybe 4th week. and im sure my ph was off, so i doubt the nutes were even working. i will post pics, but im looking for some advise. my mission right now is to find mothers, pull males, and flower what 2nd best females i find (to have a little something something also).
 

bubbels

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would you agree that Sunshine Mix Advanced #4 is a coco medium. its a soil-less medium. with soil in it, but i was told to treat it as hydro. i was having super awesome results 3-4 weeks in shit started to take a dive. i don't know exactly what happened. some growth looks good and healthy, but im loosing a shit ton of leafs on the bottom, and now im starting to see yellow leafs through out some of the plants. its not an even yellowing like a nitrogen def. its def something else. i was told coco was more forgiving. and so far it has been. i just got a ph meter the other day and now am keeping my ph in the good zone 5.8-6.1. so im praying things go back to looking awesome soon. because as of now, my search for mothers is looking rather grim. if i post pics, can someone please advise me of my situation? in the begging i was watering every other day. i got gnats and now im watering only when the pots are light and the soil is dry, almost bone dry. but i heard its good, because by making the plants search for water the plants grow faster. maybe thats why the all are tall and almost normal looking. i was also told that because im using the Sunshine Mix Advanced #4, its what is keeping them alive. i didn't start feeding the, til the 3rd, maybe 4th week. and im sure my ph was off, so i doubt the nutes were even working. i will post pics, but im looking for some advise. my mission right now is to find mothers, pull males, and flower what 2nd best females i find (to have a little something something also).
they say it is coco coir on their website that require special nutes but they dont recomend anything on their website? dont let it get to dry when it loses about 50% of its weigt water it.if you are giving it nutes and letting it dry out you gonna get salt bildup and thats gonna f... up things.

they state that the nutrients in it only are good for transplants and cutting for about a week so you must start feeding them at week two. thats prob what you are seeing now. what nutes do you use and at what strength?
 

BeaverHuntr

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Hey guys I'm looking for opinions on coco grow. I'm pretty skilled in bubble buckets but was looking for something less time consuming. Do any of the coco experts here know what is a better watering method for growing coco, I have a 3' x 3' flood and drain table and am looking to whats better flood and drain or drip system??
 

chicogrow

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So I'm trying my first indoor grow of my own under the watch of my roommate with multiple harvests of his own. He, however, has never used coco so has a limited realm of knowledge to lend me help aside from some general hydro-style basics. The grow is going to be in my closet which is almost a 5x5 square, the dimensions 58"W x 66"L x 95"H. My plan was to make a 4x4 square tray out of plywood with 12 inch vertical walls. There's a high volume of cuttings finishing up the last few days in the EZCloner (8 Romulan, 8 Af Goo, 8 DreamStar[Blue DreamxSensiStar], 8 UK Cheese, 8 White Widow, 5 Kacey Jones. Those are the 45 I will for sure be using, however I intend on using up the rest of the 6 S.S. Haze, 4 Bubba Kush, 4 ChemDog, 1 Lavender and 3 OrangeCrushxSourDiesel) so I could use the help as soon as possible. I didn't plan on using pots, but making an entire bed of coco, mixed with some perlite most likely. I'm still one the fence about the perlite just because I want to keep it as uniform as possible. I like the idea of it being all coco and air. Any help would be dope as hell. Thanks
 

JustAnotherHead

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Hey guys I'm looking for opinions on coco grow. I'm pretty skilled in bubble buckets but was looking for something less time consuming. Do any of the coco experts here know what is a better watering method for growing coco, I have a 3' x 3' flood and drain table and am looking to whats better flood and drain or drip system??
I'm doing a coco grow for my first time after switching from a flood table with rockwool and it's kicking my ass. I find it MUCH more time consuming. All my plants are exhibiting problems of one nature or another though none are the same. It's hard for me to tell when to water, I lift it and it's still heavy but it looks like my plants are thirsty. My leaves are bleaching out on a couple while a couple of my big ladies are really dark green and the new growth is coming out twisted. Stuff I've never seen. Hand watering is a big issue because I'm growing in 5 gallon buckets so I'm having to life a 10 gallon jug to water. I would definitely go with a flood table if I were you. The thing is I don't know if Coco wicks like rockwool.
 

oHsiN666

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they say it is coco coir on their website that require special nutes but they dont recomend anything on their website? dont let it get to dry when it loses about 50% of its weigt water it.if you are giving it nutes and letting it dry out you gonna get salt bildup and thats gonna f... up things.

they state that the nutrients in it only are good for transplants and cutting for about a week so you must start feeding them at week two. thats prob what you are seeing now. what nutes do you use and at what strength?
Botanicare's line of Veg nutes, at full strength. the Pro Blend Pro, liquid Karma and the Cal/Mag. and im at week 7, and they are getting ugly!! and yes i was just told today to never let them get dry, but i developed a gnat issue, so i cut back on the watering drastically. like to when the pots are bone dry. i just found out today that is no good at all. i just bought my PH meter about 3 days ago. so i am able to get my ph honed in right where i need it at 5.8-6.1.
 

bubbels

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So I'm trying my first indoor grow of my own under the watch of my roommate with multiple harvests of his own. He, however, has never used coco so has a limited realm of knowledge to lend me help aside from some general hydro-style basics. The grow is going to be in my closet which is almost a 5x5 square, the dimensions 58"W x 66"L x 95"H. My plan was to make a 4x4 square tray out of plywood with 12 inch vertical walls. There's a high volume of cuttings finishing up the last few days in the EZCloner (8 Romulan, 8 Af Goo, 8 DreamStar[Blue DreamxSensiStar], 8 UK Cheese, 8 White Widow, 5 Kacey Jones. Those are the 45 I will for sure be using, however I intend on using up the rest of the 6 S.S. Haze, 4 Bubba Kush, 4 ChemDog, 1 Lavender and 3 OrangeCrushxSourDiesel) so I could use the help as soon as possible. I didn't plan on using pots, but making an entire bed of coco, mixed with some perlite most likely. I'm still one the fence about the perlite just because I want to keep it as uniform as possible. I like the idea of it being all coco and air. Any help would be dope as hell. Thanks
im no expert and also fairly new to the coco scene and the advise ive have gotten from people is to keep it simple the first few times then maybe start adding new elements. i like the idea on only coco but maybe later start experementing with lets say 2 out of 10 pots with coco and perlite to se how its going. ive never tryed or heard of someone trying a hole bed of plants but pots seems easier, but if you gonna use 45 small plants pots it could be to much. i personaly do 12 3 gallon pots in 4 by 4 its easye to handle vatering and move around but thats just my two cents. for good info read this thread and this one : https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/225396-official-canna-coco-nutrients-thread.html
it maybe alot to read but they have saved me more than once! Good luck
 

bubbels

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Botanicare's line of Veg nutes, at full strength. the Pro Blend Pro, liquid Karma and the Cal/Mag. and im at week 7, and they are getting ugly!! and yes i was just told today to never let them get dry, but i developed a gnat issue, so i cut back on the watering drastically. like to when the pots are bone dry. i just found out today that is no good at all. i just bought my PH meter about 3 days ago. so i am able to get my ph honed in right where i need it at 5.8-6.1.
the only thing worse than to little nutes is to much nutes to fast so be careful. for the gnats i use yellow stickers it seems to hold them under control. you have other things to but i havent tryed them yet going but to try a layer of perlite or sand on the top so the gnats cant get to the coco.
 

BeaverHuntr

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Botanicare's line of Veg nutes, at full strength. the Pro Blend Pro, liquid Karma and the Cal/Mag. and im at week 7, and they are getting ugly!! and yes i was just told today to never let them get dry, but i developed a gnat issue, so i cut back on the watering drastically. like to when the pots are bone dry. i just found out today that is no good at all. i just bought my PH meter about 3 days ago. so i am able to get my ph honed in right where i need it at 5.8-6.1.

If you have Co2 run it at 10,000 PPM for 10-20 min. it will kill all living bugs
 

chicogrow

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If you have Co2 run it at 10,000 PPM for 10-20 min. it will kill all living bugs
I can account for this, watched one of the worst spider mite problems be solved like that on a finished product. The bastards showed up in the last few days right before harvest, moved it back a couple days to let the Co2 kill everything and they came out with no problem whatsoever. You ran your finger right over the top and all the webs and mites disappeared. Just be careful because you don't want to be breathing in that much Co2 for an extended period of time. And as for the pots/no pots thing, I just feel like pots will just take away more space and since I'm essentially trying to only produce as many nugs as I have clones. In soil, my friend pulled 330g from a 4x4 square under the same settings only a bigger room, but suffered production problems from neglect early on. He had 25 plants and as smaller collective nugs he averaged about a half ounce per plant. At the most, I'd only like to have about 4 nugs on each plant to keep space utilized the most, and to produce the best possible bud
 

BeaverHuntr

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I can account for this, watched one of the worst spider mite problems be solved like that on a finished product. The bastards showed up in the last few days right before harvest, moved it back a couple days to let the Co2 kill everything and they came out with no problem whatsoever. You ran your finger right over the top and all the webs and mites disappeared. Just be careful because you don't want to be breathing in that much Co2 for an extended period of time. And as for the pots/no pots thing, I just feel like pots will just take away more space and since I'm essentially trying to only produce as many nugs as I have clones. In soil, my friend pulled 330g from a 4x4 square under the same settings only a bigger room, but suffered production problems from neglect early on. He had 25 plants and as smaller collective nugs he averaged about a half ounce per plant. At the most, I'd only like to have about 4 nugs on each plant to keep space utilized the most, and to produce the best possible bud
Yeah I tell people all the time if they have Co2 and a bug problem to just crank that sucker up to 10,000 PPM and let the bugs die. It might use half a bottle or a full bottle but a refill is 20 bucks so thats cheap for a mite problem in my book.
 

BeaverHuntr

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Anyways I bought some supplies today. I bought a bag of GenHydro Coco Chips and some air pots. What I'm going to do is use a 3' x 3' Ebb and Flow table, put my clones in the air pots filled with the coco chips, I dont want to use coir because of the water it retains so with the Coco Chips I can flood a few times a day just like one would with Hydroton. I'm going to go with House and Gardens line of Coco nutes as well.
 

chicogrow

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I believe he had 3 gallon pots as well and did 5 across both ways and we found the root structure didn't get very big at all, which would probably help explain the lack of production for the amount of resources put into the plants. As such, I'm looking to double the number of plants in the same amount of space, so if I were to be using pots the sharing walls of the pots would take up quite a bit of extra space. Now I also know better than to cram too many plants into one space, but doesnt seem like this is overdoing it.
 
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