CO2 LEDs gross droop rapid deficiency

MidnightSun72

MidnightSun72

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J232 said:
I set a timer to vent for 15 mins on the hour for the time the lights are out, seems to work ok.
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Nice I would do that too. But I have this "humidity device station" basically lets me set the humidity I want to turn on and off at on the app for days and night. So I just set the max humidity to 55 on nights and it just vented. Barely dropped the CO2 either. CO2 had dropped to about 950 near the end of the dark cycle while venting.
 
Have2

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MidnightSun72 said:
Nice I would do that too. But I have this "humidity device station" basically lets me set the humidity I want to turn on and off at on the app for days and night. So I just set the max humidity to 55 on nights and it just vented. Barely dropped the CO2 either. CO2 had dropped to about 950 near the end of the dark cycle while venting.
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Just buy another co2 device from trolmaster and set it to start above X. Your exhaust will run until the desired level is reached. If you need help on how to do the electrical wiring to keep exhaust working in day cycle at the same time, drop me a pm. :)
 
MidnightSun72

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MidnightSun72 said:
Nice I would do that too. But I have this "humidity device station" basically lets me set the humidity I want to turn on and off at on the app for days and night. So I just set the max humidity to 55 on nights and it just vented. Barely dropped the CO2 either. CO2 had dropped to about 950 near the end of the dark cycle while venting.
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Have2 said:
Just buy another co2 device from trolmaster and set it to start above X. Your exhaust will run until the desired level is reached. If you need help on how to do the electrical wiring to keep exhaust working in day cycle at the same time, drop me a pm. :)
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I might be misunderstanding something. But I don't want to exhaust during the light cycle. Kind of defeats the point of a sealed room.

the way it's set now is it only exhausts at night when humidity goes over 55. 1 device and already setup and worked for a dark cycle.

using a CO2 device station you are saying to vent off when ever CO2 level reaches a certain ppm?
Clever use of the trigger.
 
Have2

Have2

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MidnightSun72 said:
I might be misunderstanding something. But I don't want to exhaust during the light cycle. Kind of defeats the point of a sealed room.

the way it's set now is it only exhausts at night when humidity goes over 55. 1 device and already setup and worked for a dark cycle.

using a CO2 device station you are saying to vent off when ever CO2 level reaches a certain ppm?
Clever use of the trigger.
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Exactly! (for co2 device station and trigger) I cut co2 injection 1 hour before the light go off then the exhaust co2 device kicks in and it vents until it reaches 500 ppm, so my co2 level is ranging from 470-480 to 510-520 at night. You don't have to guess how many minutes by the hour and it's consistent. I cut the co2 device 1 hour before the light goes back on.

As for the exhaust, I always exhaust few minutes each 3 hours. It refreshes the air with new level of oxygen and so on. The cost of exhausting for few minutes every X hours is cheap... Maybe I should try running once without exhausting at all but I read somewhere that it was beneficial (for oxygen level and other gas)
 
Have2

Have2

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MidnightSun72 said:
I might be misunderstanding something. But I don't want to exhaust during the light cycle. Kind of defeats the point of a sealed room.

the way it's set now is it only exhausts at night when humidity goes over 55. 1 device and already setup and worked for a dark cycle.

using a CO2 device station you are saying to vent off when ever CO2 level reaches a certain ppm?
Clever use of the trigger.
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As for the humidity triggering the exhaust, I don't know where you are located (and I don't want to know) but sometimes, depending on the season we are, it does the opposite. :)
 
Southernontariogrower

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also venting refreshes o2 to tent for sleep as co2 builds lights on plants suck up co2 like crazy starts all over again, l figure it gives them agood hour to feel co2 drop so sleep and take in o2 for another before co2 builds up over night cycle and sucks it up at lights on, they can get quite used to this. And utilize it inches from your light with proper airflow.
 
MidnightSun72

MidnightSun72

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Have2 said:
Exactly! (for co2 device station and trigger) I cut co2 injection 1 hour before the light go off then the exhaust co2 device kicks in and it vents until it reaches 500 ppm, so my co2 level is ranging from 470-480 to 510-520 at night. You don't have to guess how many minutes by the hour and it's consistent. I cut the co2 device 1 hour before the light goes back on.

As for the exhaust, I always exhaust few minutes each 3 hours. It refreshes the air with new level of oxygen and so on. The cost of exhausting for few minutes every X hours is cheap... Maybe I should try running once without exhausting at all but I read somewhere that it was beneficial (for oxygen level and other gas)
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Do you just use a plug in timer to cut the CO2 early (say an hour before lights out)?

kind of dumb Trolmaster doesn't let you just program all this. The hardware is all there it's just the app doesn't let you get that specific. It's just day and night.

I am gonna cal their engineers and see if I can bitch enough for them to do something. Lol.
 
Southernontariogrower

Southernontariogrower

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Im a homebrew co2, it runs 24 7. Venting sucks tent out in two mins, so 2 hrs plus another couple of o2 before co2 builds, they suck up the buildup in first hour of light. And are all the better for it. I try to wait for an hour after lights on to peek at them. 4x4 can build alot of co2, l wouldnt put mouth up to tent on a bet. Would drop for sure.
 
Southernontariogrower

Southernontariogrower

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MidnightSun72 said:
Do you just use a plug in timer to cut the CO2 early (say an hour before lights out)?

kind of dumb Trolmaster doesn't let you just program all this. The hardware is all there it's just the app doesn't let you get that specific. It's just day and night.

I am gonna cal their engineers and see if I can bitch enough for them to do something. Lol.
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Isnt trollmaster just for lights?
 
MidnightSun72

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Southernontariogrower said:
Isnt trollmaster just for lights?
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Nah that's why I got it. It monitors everything and makes it all controllable form one spot. Room gets too hot it can dim the lights. CO2 level drops adds CO2. I got the AC remote station which controls the mini split to change the day and night temps on its own. It does everything. I really like the system so far.

But then there's some bullshit like they should give you more control. There shouldnt have to be a temp or humidity or program station. They are all just contractor relays. So they should be generic and programmmable to do whatever you want. Stupid fucks. On the commercial version of the controller they let you use the device station's interchangeably.
 
MidnightSun72

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Southernontariogrower said:
Im a homebrew co2, it runs 24 7. Venting sucks tent out in two mins, so 2 hrs plus another couple of o2 before co2 builds, they suck up the buildup in first hour of light. And are all the better for it. I try to wait for an hour after lights on to peek at them. 4x4 can build alot of co2, l wouldnt put mouth up to tent on a bet. Would drop for sure.
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If the CO2 is high enough to knock you out. It's not good for the girls either. I've been spending time in the room and levels jack to 1500-1600 while I am in there. And I don't feel dizzy OR anything like that. I am a crazy CO2 generator myself. Lol
 
Southernontariogrower

Southernontariogrower

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lve got almost foolproof system, co2 has waterbottle filter so no bubbles time to change 15 litre jug, 2kg sugar 3 yeast packs and a big squirt of ketsup. Shake the shit outta it plastic heating pad underneath raises temp 10 degree above ambient that helps it cook. Top needs airhose and airtight seal, tape works. Ive got 1 timer for lights 1 timer for vent, 18 inch fan on roof of tent. Half speed, running almost 2 years now, my temps are high 90, rh is high 80. Few hrs after lights on canopy and tent become wet where they are closest they are loving this treatment. And most of all no pm. I am my trollmaster. I hand water to. Just use a pump because its faster. And im lazy.
 
MidnightSun72

MidnightSun72

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Southernontariogrower said:
lve got almost foolproof system, co2 has waterbottle filter so no bubbles time to change 15 litre jug, 2kg sugar 3 yeast packs and a big squirt of ketsup. Shake the shit outta it plastic heating pad underneath raises temp 10 degree above ambient that helps it cook. Top needs airhose and airtight seal, tape works. Ive got 1 timer for lights 1 timer for vent, 18 inch fan on roof of tent. Half speed, running almost 2 years now, my temps are high 90, rh is high 80. Few hrs after lights on canopy and tent become wet where they are closest they are loving this treatment. And most of all no pm. I am my trollmaster. I hand water to. Just use a pump because its faster. And im lazy.
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Are you flowering with an RH of 80? Seems high to me. But if it's working its working my right.
 
Have2

Have2

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MidnightSun72 said:
Do you just use a plug in timer to cut the CO2 early (say an hour before lights out)?

kind of dumb Trolmaster doesn't let you just program all this. The hardware is all there it's just the app doesn't let you get that specific. It's just day and night.

I am gonna cal their engineers and see if I can bitch enough for them to do something. Lol.
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They won't add this option.... They want to sell you the programmable outlet... Lol I went with smart plugs, way cheaper and more flexible.

So yes, timer for both co2 in and co2 out. Same fan. (That's why I told you to drop me a pm if you don't know how to wire it properly) :)
 
MidnightSun72

MidnightSun72

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Have2 said:
They won't add this option.... They want to sell you the programmable outlet... Lol I went with smart plugs, way cheaper and more flexible.

So yes, timer for both co2 in and co2 out. Same fan. (That's why I told you to drop me a pm if you don't know how to wire it properly) :)
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Ya I totally get it about different outlet types. But even within the outlet types. A software change alone should allow you to control all of them by time or on a cycle repeat. The infrastructure is all there. They are only robbing us of capability and requiring extra points of failure to get proper control.

Over the dark period of noticed the plants are expelling about 50Ppm of CO2 per hour.
 
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bk78 said:
They get around 1200ppfd in full bloom

yeah I let them do their thing

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A+ for having such a clean space. It is so clean I would almost believe you have a cleaning service. Very impressive and the lighting tips are huge.

A dude named tbone shuffle, named after the artist I guess, used to say this too. About 25k lux in veg is enough. I think that is so key too much light too early creates the problems in week 3 a lot of us have had.

Honesty about f those leaves toward the end is great too...we don't smoke the leaves f them lol.
 
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