CNN contributor Bakari Sellers: ‘Bernie 2020 died 4/4/18’

Fogdog

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trippnface said:
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Hillary 2.0 sounds good, huh?
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You make up your own definitions and you will have to explain what that means.

Bernie is not bad. His economics platform is endorsed by a lot of other people who are considered potential candidates. It's actually pretty much vanilla Democratic Party policy. As shown by events this week, Bernie has no ability or interest in Civil rights policies. For this reason, in my opinion, Bernie is good but insufficient. There are other candidates and I'm pretty sure that one will be better than Bernie in both economic policies and civil rights policies. If you want to call that Hillary 2.0 then so be it.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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trippnface said:
HUH?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/24/debbie-wasserman-schultz-resigns-dnc-chair-emails-sanders
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Selective memory. That's old news and means nothing except DWS screwed up by being partial which was against the DNC charter. She was rightly fired for it. I am sympathetic because you fucking Berners are a completely ignorant lot and she must have developed extreme contempt for Bernie's campaign staff. Still, it was her job to be impartial despite the juvenile crybaby attitude of his campaign staff.

What you imply is DWC's resignation validates the fake conspiracy theory of "nomination rigged for Clinton". Sorry, but false story has been given the heave-ho. Actually not sorry.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/05/donna-brazile-rigged-democrats-clinton-sanders-244566
Brazile: I found 'no evidence' Democratic primary was rigged
 
potroastV2

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trippnface said:
and still shit.

Bernie was LESS shit than Obama ( an improvement) . Bernie can still go fuck himself for backing hillary in the end, but I will still take him, instead of more Trump.

The question is; will you?
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There you go again. Aren't you precious?

So precious that you just posted a video from NRA TV!


Clean the shit out of your ears, and take a shower. You smell.


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peabody2018

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greg nr said:
The primary wasn't rigged. Bernie was never going to win. The bots spun that up, and assange helped with doctored emails. Busters bought into it hook, line, and sinker.

They still believe the lies. And even a lot of non-busters believe at least some of the lies.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/liberal-blogger-horrified-discover-duped-russian-trolls-tumblr-help-trump/

Liberal blogger horrified to discover she was duped by Russian trolls on Tumblr to help Trump

While Facebook and Twitter have been rightly bashed for providing fertile ground to Russian trolls seeking to influence the 2016 election, Tumblr has largely flown under the radar.​

That’s despite the fact that the site now knows it was home to an large and active group of Russian trolls, mainly focused on impersonating black activists to stir long-simmering resentments. The trolls used accounts called things like 4mysquad, postingwhileblack and yanbig.

A woman who ran a popular pro-Hillary Tumblr is now speaking up about her realization for Salon.

“I’ve been doing digital strategy in politics and advocacy for more than 11 years, and what I saw online in 2016 didn’t make sense to me,” she wrote. “Spend more than 10 minutes on any online platform and you got the sense that every American voter thought Hillary Clinton was an evil criminal, something the election results (in which Clinton won the popular vote) didn’t bear out. Hillary Clinton might have been an unpopular candidate, but she wasn’t hated by everyone. It didn’t add up.”

Ryan points out that her posts were averaging 200,000 engagements a week, and she figures she may have reblogged divisive comments that were written by Russian trolls. She definitely had trolls in her comments.

“Essentially, I gave Russian propagandists an outlet,” she writes. “I unknowingly allowed them to use something I’d created online in their active measures campaign. I was duped.”

The most interesting thing about Tumblr, Ryan notes, is that because of the way reblogging works, it’s possible to trace exactly how the trolls operated. Unlike other tech companies that have tried to cover their tracks, Tumblr posted a list of all the accounts it identified and left the chains up intact so people can go back and see what happened and how.

“Tumblr waited too long to inform its users, but I appreciate the way the company did it, especially its decision to provide the list of account names and leaving the chains of reblogged content intact,” Ryan writes.

Of course that came after BuzzFeed revealed that trolls were “running wild” on the site in a story that the company refused to comment upon. In that story, a Brooklyn man who ran an account called alwaysbewoke said that he he was fooled by Russian trolls—and very surprised to learn as much.

“There was actually some nuance to the things they were posting. It wasn’t your run of the mill ‘white people are vile’ kind of stuff. It was far more nuanced than that,” said the man, who described himself as a 35-year-old living in Brooklyn.​
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Yeah, even fooled Wasserman-Schultz into resigning
 
Padawanbater2

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Nobody can deny the factual basis of Sanders' claim; that the business model of the Democratic party has been a failure over the last 15 years. That's true based on many different metrics. The Democratic party under FDR legitimately supported working class interests, that's how social security and unemployment insurance passed. We had strong labor unions with the highest rates of membership in the history of the US. By supporting working class interests, FDR won more terms than any other president in history, and the Democrats in congress held total control for the better part of 6 decades



Since 2008, the Democratic business model has lost more than 1,000 electoral seats across the country. Do you deny the evidence? The Democratic party leadership endorses and promotes establishment candidates over actual progressives, even going to far in many cases as actively campaigning against them when they require progressive candidates censor themselves in their ads against incumbents

To try to smear Sanders and imply or accuse him of being racist after a lifetime of documented proof of him fighting for equal civil rights, to the extent of chaining himself to other African American protesters and being hauled off to jail for it is the only approach to take since his stance on actual policy positions can't really be argued against. It's tough to argue that all Americans shouldn't have universal healthcare coverage, or the minimum wage shouldn't be raised to a living wage, or that we should still be bombing 8 different countries (7 under Obama), or spying on American citizens..
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Nobody can deny the factual basis of Sanders' claim; that the business model of the Democratic party has been a failure over the last 15 years. That's true based on many different metrics. The Democratic party under FDR legitimately supported working class interests, that's how social security and unemployment insurance passed. We had strong labor unions with the highest rates of membership in the history of the US. By supporting working class interests, FDR won more terms than any other president in history, and the Democrats in congress held total control for the better part of 6 decades



Since 2008, the Democratic business model has lost more than 1,000 electoral seats across the country. Do you deny the evidence? The Democratic party leadership endorses and promotes establishment candidates over actual progressives, even going to far in many cases as actively campaigning against them when they require progressive candidates censor themselves in their ads against incumbents

To try to smear Sanders and imply or accuse him of being racist after a lifetime of documented proof of him fighting for equal civil rights, to the extent of chaining himself to other African American protesters and being hauled off to jail for it is the only approach to take since his stance on actual policy positions can't really be argued against. It's tough to argue that all Americans shouldn't have universal healthcare coverage, or the minimum wage shouldn't be raised to a living wage, or that we should still be bombing 8 different countries (7 under Obama), or spying on American citizens..
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Evidence? Evidence is presented as proof of something. What does the graph prove? What business "model" is he talking about? Does this "model" predict the future in any way? From what you are saying, Bernie's business "model" says Democrats should lose bigly. All signs point a significant number of wins both at the local, state and federal level in the fall. If we don't, then yeah, Bernie "model" should be given more credence. The "model" that I'm using to predict a blue tsunami in the fall is extrapolating the number of Democrats energized and running for office and the early results showing stunningly good results in deep red and strong Trump territory.

Pad, are you such an asshole that you'd be sad if Democrats won bigly this year in conservative districts running on tickets that aren't aligned with the radical left agenda that you falsely call progressive?

Nobody is smearing Bernie. He did it all himself. He is demonstrating that he has no capacity to lead the Democratic Party. His campaign is on life support and sinking quickly. He has demonstrated zero capacity to win over the people who didn't vote for him in 2016. By criticizing Obama, he's showing his white bias and white blindness to other colors.

Regarding his "fight" for civil rights, what has he done as Senator to show he's fighting for civil rights? People in the civil rights movement say he's not bad but they feel invisible to him. Too bad Sanders didn't listen when he was told without any hesitation that economic policies are good but inadequate to address social inequality.
 
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Unclebaldrick

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Fogdog said:
Evidence? Evidence is presented as proof of something. What does the graph prove? What business "model" is he talking about? Does this "model" predict the future in any way? From what you are saying, Bernie's business "model" says Democrats should lose bigly. All signs point a significant number of wins both at the local, state and federal level in the fall. If we don't, then yeah, Bernie "model" should be given more credence. The "model" that I'm using to predict a blue tsunami in the fall is extrapolating the number of Democrats energized and running for office and the early results showing stunningly good results in deep red and strong Trump territory.

Pad, are you such an asshole that you'd be sad if Democrats won bigly this year in conservative districts running on tickets that aren't aligned with the radical left agenda that you falsely call progressive?

Nobody is smearing Bernie. He did it all himself. He is demonstrating that he has no capacity to lead the Democratic Party. His campaign is on life support and sinking quickly. He has demonstrated zero capacity to win over the people who didn't vote for him in 2016. By criticizing Obama, he's showing his white bias and white blindness to other colors.

Regarding his "fight" for civil rights, what has he done as Senator to show he's fighting for civil rights? People in the civil rights movement say he's not bad but they feel invisible to him. Too bad Sanders didn't listen when he was told without any hesitation that economic policies are good but inadequate to address social inequality.
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"I want to believe."
 
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schuylaar

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trippnface said:
and still shit.

Bernie was LESS shit than Obama ( an improvement) . Bernie can still go fuck himself for backing hillary in the end, but I will still take him, instead of more Trump.

The question is; will you?
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Sanders had no choice; it’s contractual.
 
UncleBuck

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Unclebaldrick said:
"I want to believe."
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oxford's word of the year was a jeopardy clue last night. no one got it.

After much discussion, debate, and research, the Oxford Dictionaries Word of the Year 2016 is post-truth – an adjective defined as ‘relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief’.
 
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