CLONING WITH ALPHA(2 days is the goal)

welcome to cloning with alpha. what we have here is an aero cloning bucket . if you dont have one of these, its a must to make one its very easy and simple. here is the supply list:
5 gal bucket and lid
1" or 2" hole saw drill bit
air pump and air stone
water pump (250gph or a little stronger is best)
5 ft length of 1/2" pvc
pvc glue and pvc primer
x3 1/2" tee's
x4 1/2" elbow's
x1 1/2" male adapter (this is the piece that makes it fit in the pump.)
tap and die kit
misters
i use 1" pieces between all the tee's and elbows and i think 2 1/2" pipes between the elbows on the ends. then a 7" pipe to attach manifold to pump.

i use an air stone which pumps hot air from my lights for 12 hours. the clones lights are on for 18. because i constantly add air to the water the pH is constantly tying to balance itself so i will have to add pH down. with the initial solution pH was at 7.0 i added chemicals and 1 ml pH down to bring pH to 5.4. every 12 hours i have to add 8 drops of pH down this is just from experience and took awhile to figure out and isnt a constant factor i might have to add more or less.

my solution is .5 ml super thrive, 2 ml prozyme, and 3 ml hormex to 3 gal. of water. the other solution is pure hormex cuttings stems are soaked in it for 1-3min.

that is my ww #3 mother before cuttings were taken. the #3 is just a denotation to the 3rd seed to pop from ground this is a clone of that plant. these will be clones of clones. the next picture is an untrimmed cutting. after that is a trimmed cutting 45 degree angle 1/4" away from the node. node had all material trimmed flush with stem and a little green skin scraped away. the smaller slivers you can make the better. larger fan leaves tips cut off. some clones soaking in solution.


some clones in the machine temps are around 80 during 12 hours light on and 70 when off. all 6 cuttings i decided to clone. mother plant after cuttings where taken and the distance from 250w halide.


hope you got some good info and examples. GL on your grows. i will update the results dailey. hoping for some 2 day clones or least some calluses. hopefully i will calluses tomm.

I just don't c 2 days 48 hours till rooted don't c it happening

method2mymadness said:

I just don't c 2 days 48 hours till rooted don't c it happening

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Not even bumps but lets give the benefit of the doubt even though there really is nothing new here. if he gets even bumps within 48 hours I'll be impressed.
def wish you luck though and will try it myself .

You should try adding some of heisenbergs tea and see if that doesn't make a difference.

At page 69 of his thread he shows how he does his. Seems like it's basically the same exact thing except different materials and not using an aerocloner. Would be cool to see a few different results from this thread.

If what you're preaching isn't an exaggeration, your clones will be rooted before mine and I took mine on the 9th. D=

got roots yet?????

I'm at least a week in on some euphoria cuts that have been in the cloner in azos at a precise 73 degrees F and I'm still not seeing bumps :/

i would kill them if i didnt see bumps in 5 days. just woke up and lights dont come on for another couple hours when they do i will update

Not saying it want work...but good luck with it let me know how it turns out i would love to try it...it would make a world of difference

I'm definitely going to be watching. Even if he gets small roots in 7 days I'll be doing the same as him lol. Seems like anymore I can't clone anything. Not sure what the problem is because I've been doing it the same as I did in the past and I always had roots within a weeks time, now I get nothing. I've had clones in the home made aero cloner for two weeks now and no bumps at all, leaves are turning yellow so I guess it's time to throw them out, Sorry baby OG Kush, maybe some other time. lol

alot of time it depends on the strain to me, i have a purple buddha and sensi star, buddha came from a seed website star from my friend.

but these 2 in my set up are the most aggressive strains i have,
they root and get put into pots by day 5 and same if i would put the star in a rockwool cube with plain tap water in a tray and 5 days boop boop roots..

then again im using and home made clone machine with clonex solution and gel.

and every 2 weeks or so i clean my machine with bleach and make sure its all washed off with water really good i just go by smell.

how is the og strain? if its the true og that is..

my friend giving me a few seeds today of master bubba and og kush from cali when he lived there and he saying this is the real deal kush so i cant wait

my set up is here if you interested https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/503049-multi-strain-mmj-grow-secret.html

Philly xG said:

how is the og strain? if its the true og that is..

my friend giving me a few seeds today of master bubba and og kush from cali when he lived there and he saying this is the real deal kush so i cant wait

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Not sure how the OG is. 2 weeks into 12/12 I lost a battle to root rot, but before they were sent into 12/12 I took clones, but none of the clones survived. Right before the originals died off I took more clones as well to try and save them, but looks like those clones are going no where either. Don't know if it's the strain or what, but in the past with the strain Ice, and a bagseed I got good roots within a week in the same set up as now.

bought a bottle of collidial silver and it fucking broke on the floor i collected as much as i can but it looks dirty as fuck. i was about to cry too. you think this will affect using it? i dont plan on smoking bud from these plant just collecting and using the pollen and seeds.

i went and checked on the clones earlier the water got real cold last night should have turned the air pump off. temp came down to 64 degrees so they weren't very happy looking. i adjusted the pH took 5 drops to get from 6.1 to 5.4 again tonight im gonna hook the air pump to my light timer so it turns off with the lights and will stay warmer. i will get some pics up here in about a half hour got to wait till ventilation comes on clears out the co2.

Alpha, when running CO2 when do you have it turned on? I heard it should be ran when the lights are off, but then I heard to run it when the lights are on cause it can help lower temps. Also, what type of system do you use for CO2? I have been thinking about getting some CO2 to pump into the room but I don't know the first thing about it really. Do you use one of those systems that burns propane or whatever it is to produce CO2?

co2 tank and regulator. run co2 when lights are on. have a tube that draws air from the cool tube to the air pump my lights are cooled separate from my filters. the only light that is cooled from air inside the tent is my veg 250w it just recirculates.


Alright heres the up date some small bumps under microscope should have got pics but you might be able to see them in the pics. then just some random pics if you look at the one with the cloner the big clone on the right is actually holding that big ass leaf up. water temp is now 70(yes so is room) going up it will peak somewhere around78- 80

I noticed you said earlier that you cut the tips of the leaves off, why do you do that? Also, are those sponges that you are using to put your clones in? I am probably going to steal your clone set-up, or atleast use a modified version of it. As they say, imitation is the best form of flattery.

its some type of foam i had laying around. i had a bunch of it for a long time i have no idea where i got it. if i was to make the lid again i would use 2 in holes with neoprene disks instead of 1 in holes with foam. your not stealing my design your stealing someone else idea. although i did think of this on my own when i first started growing the i searched it and found tons of info on it. i cut the tips off bcuz clones will not use them clones. leave tips will die anyways the leaves are the first place they go for nutes. if you cut the tips they absorb nutes more evenly from throughout the cutting keeping a more green color. temp has finally hit 75. another cloner that has results quickly like this is the ultrasonic cloner i think that it is equal to this kind of cloner if utilized properly.

I can't get roots in two days but here's my diy cloner.....

alphawolf.hack said:

i cut the tips off bcuz clones will not use them clones. leave tips will die anyways the leaves are the first place they go for nutes. if you cut the tips they absorb nutes more evenly from throughout the cutting keeping a more green color.

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Azos and you won't see any yellowing, I may not get roots in two days but my leaf tips are fine a week in.