Cloning help...I suck at cloning. Help!

Get you an oxycloner. It's a bubble cloner. They have different sizes. I use the 20 site. Here's the important part for 100% success everytime with huge roots. No gels or rooting powders used. Get some some hth pool shock. It's in powder form so use 1-2 grams of pool shock per gallon of water to make sterilizing solution for your cloner. Don't go over 2 grams per gallon for your solution. Once you have your solution mixed, add 6ml/gal of solution to the amount of water you have in your cloner. Every 3 to 5 days I pour my oxycloner out and fill it back up with fresh water. It holds 1.5 gallons of water. I put 15 ml of solution in my cloner cause I found it works better for me. 6ml/gal is just a starting point. It also depends if you use 1 gram or 2 in your initial solution. It works 100% everytime for me. Been using this method for a long time. It's also good for soaking seedlings. Hope this helps make anyone who reads this a better cloner. Happy smoking fellas!

Vonkins said:

Get you an oxycloner. It's a bubble cloner. They have different sizes. I use the 20 site. Here's the important part for 100% success everytime with huge roots. No gels or rooting powders used. Get some some hth pool shock. It's in powder form so use 1-2 grams of pool shock per gallon of water to make sterilizing solution for your cloner. Don't go over 2 grams per gallon for your solution. Once you have your solution mixed, add 6ml/gal of solution to the amount of water you have in your cloner. Every 3 to 5 days I pour my oxycloner out and fill it back up with fresh water. It holds 1.5 gallons of water. I put 15 ml of solution in my cloner cause I found it works better for me. 6ml/gal is just a starting point. It also depends if you use 1 gram or 2 in your initial solution. It works 100% everytime for me. Been using this method for a long time. It's also good for soaking seedlings. Hope this helps make anyone who reads this a better cloner. Happy smoking fellas!

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After roots have started to show decently I pour out the sanitized water and add new water with half strength bloom nutes. The roots go crazy overnight! I let this go for a few days then I transplant to soil.

You need to trim the leaves. I also like to peel/scrape skin off the stem to allow more rooting. Just use a root riot cube and clonex in a basic tray. All that other shit is just bells and whistles in my opinion.
If it's has six branches, I would cut the bottom two completly and the trim all the leaves up top halfway at a 45 degree angle. Keep using your heating pad. I use a sun leaves dome and 2 fluorescent lights of America tubes from Walmart that are maybe two feet long or some. You need close to 100% humidity and that's not gunna happen with that aero garden thing unless it has a dome to it, or maybe you can make a dome?
Is your humidity okay, I don't think it's a light issue
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Oh yeah your water should have a ph of 5.5 also

if you had a quality pump it would not heat up . ran two 500 gph in 20 gallons of water it stays cool

Took these yesterday, skywalker OG kush, I also topped most of them so they will grow in with two tops. And that white thing in the cups is a green pad( like a meat packing pad it makes co2 from humidity. Also to ensure a dome is humid, mist the lid with a sprayer of just plain water. do not mist the plant, just the lid.

bryan oconner said:

if you had a quality pump it would not heat up . ran two 500 gph in 20 gallons of water it stays cool

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My res Temps stay at 78 to 82 degrees. Feels kinda warm. Definitely not cold. Never any slime. My clones love the warmer water temp. Roots explode for me.

bryan oconner said:

if you had a quality pump it would not heat up . ran two 500 gph in 20 gallons of water it stays cool

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i may have to try more water in mine, i know i only run about five gallons in mine, i dont think that aerogarden is that big tho, i could be wrong but from the pic its maybe a gallon (probably less) but i think dude who started this has got some good info everyone does thi.gs a bit different with success so pick and choose what u think will work best for ya .. good luck brotherman

alwayslearning777 said:

i may have to try more water in mine, i know i only run about five gallons in mine, i dont think that aerogarden is that big tho, i could be wrong but from the pic its maybe a gallon (probably less) but i think dude who started this has got some good info everyone does thi.gs a bit different with success so pick and choose what u think will work best for ya .. good luck brotherman

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The Aerogarden in the picture is probably between one and two litres. The pump is a small air pump, outside of the reservoir, I added a new air stone, but it still creates few bubbles.

I believe the light is a 13W CFL grow light, specifically made for Aerogardens. It's not likje any CFL light I've ever seen before anyway, it's flat.

It's also set up for an automatic light cycle of 18/6

I also trimmed the cuttings quite a bit. The water in the reservoir has nothing in it, aside from the air stone; no nutrients. I may FIM the tops as well.

I put my clones directly into soil, I get 90% success and exactly similar results as the mom plant.. but in smaller quantity of course

Those clones will struggle to root.........1st they r too big with too many leaves 2nd you NEED a humidity dome(fact) try covering them in a clear plastic bag if you can't get a dome,if I were you I would cut them down in size(typically leave 2 sets of trimmed leaves)cut the last cut with a very sharp blade(I use a sterile scalpel)the reason for this is if the blade is not sharp enuff you will CRUSH the stem at the cut(never a good start)clonex is only a fiver and I also dilute mine and add to my tank aswell as dipping the initial root end into it........I also had probs when I first started cloning I had tried almost every method with limited success,but since buying the aero cloner probs r a thing of the past .........now it's more about how fast I can get them to root,usually it's about a week to 10 days.......best of luck my freind...

I have found that using an air stone raised water ph to ~8.2 ....
then other posters say they keep the ph < 6.0 ...
both claim to have great success?

kinda begs the question: WTF?
I just use tap water with great success LOL

My very first plants were Nebula and Corona clones (Paradise) from a friend. When vegged I cloned from those and it seemed I couldn't do anything wrong. I had clones all over the house. When I started growing from seed I stopped cloning for a few years. Back to cloning and fail after fail after fail. It had to be something simple because I was doing my cuttings by the book. It was...patience. I was expecting them to root in a week. I now clone directly into sunmix4 with gel and wait...viola!

i dont use a humidity dome and hhavee had no issues, when i did use a humidity dome i noticed it took longer for the plant to acclimate after transplant.. i do use a clonex mist spray once a day tho so maybe im just lucky ... i dont know about the clones being to big either, ive taken some monsters with a bit of drooping the first maybe second day but they end up reachi.g for the light after that .... as far as the ph, i have had success with just straight water from my well but it took longer and id get maybe 6 or 7 out of 12, as soon as i lowered the ph the last three clone attempts ive gotten 99 percent (the one that didnt make it i got impatient and threw it away, started baby roots but all others were already transplanted)

im not sure about doi.g the FIM yet, personaly i avoid any stress untill there rooted in soil for a bit, and i do tgink that aerogarden is like a bubble cloner type thing? i know the advice ive been giving comes from a set up i made that just mists the bottoms, not sure if that makes a difference or if im correct in thinking its a bubble type

also make the cuts at the node, as i understand that is where the plants hormones are mostly located, i cut at the node and leave one more above it that has the branch cut off and thoes are the spots that sprout the roots.. def use a sharp blade like stated above

So, after looking at my cuttings this morning, I decided to start over again; this time incorporating much of the advice from this thread.

In order expand this experiment, I have decided to clone some cuttings, in rapid rooters, along side my Aerogarden.

This morning, I took out the old cuttings. I trimmed one of them back significantly, re-cut the stem a bit cleaner, and inserted it so that the bottom is above the water, instead of in it.

The other two Aerogarden cuttings were new to see if the previous attempt had done any damage to the first cutting. All three got new foam holders, cut narrower to keep the plant size minimal.

The rapid rooter cuttings are all fresh, as of this morning.

All cuttings were made after the third node, at a 45 degree angle with a sharp blade, treated with Rootech cloning gel, and had their leaves trimmed. Here's the picture:



I am also working on building a "King Ralph" EZ-Cloner out of a Rubbermaid Roughneck tote.

Those look alot better,although I would urge you to cover them up,after you start to see roots develop then you can let some air in(open vent or similar) to allow them to harden off before they get potted up........my cloner is a misting one where they get a good mix of water to a air ratio so I'm not sure about keeping the stems out the water.I also use rootriot plugs for clones because my cloner is only a 12 site one and I usually need more so I revert to the plugs but they NEVER root any way near as quick as the cloner....

If your gonna make your own cloner ditch the Styrofoam and get the neoprene collers their cheep and perform alot better......

Never have a prob cloning, I use the cheap root powder, I don't bother with any domes I just put em in next to another plant, 1 week to 2 weeks later (normally the bottom sets of leaves i leave start to yellow) I pull em out and replant into bigger containers. They always take somehow. When I lost one before I noticed it was sat in a pocket of air in the medium, soil in my case. Make sure you get good contact between the stem and growing medium.

I take cuttings from bottom of plant, count four nodes from tip and cut at 45 degree angle remove some of the lower growth, dip in powder then place in premade hole in soil backfill and make sure it has good contact. I think patience is the key..