Clones not genetically identical.
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skefaman
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sounds like you have a fun job
And you'll prove him "full of shit" via what method? Just exactly how do *you* think we kept this all going prior to convenient hydro stores , seed vendors , and realtively easy access to clones.
And of course you'll now tell me that I'm fulla crap because I'm setting on a 7 year old Skunk #1 mother , a 3 year old Master Kush mother and assorted others of various strains but similar chronological age.
And I find it amusing that instead of an informative approach that might PROVE him to be fulla crap , utilising factual hard data , instead you delve immediately into juvenile and accusatory ad hominem.
Does YOU mommy know you're using her laptop?
Joedank
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^^^ what he said !! I have a c-99 from 10+ years ago and a Durban 20+ years old soooo ... Even my bubba kush is 14 yrs old and the nuggets smell just like my bros who keep mothers years longer than me...
Drift happens but it takes a minute... Like 700-1000 generations I belive luthur Burbank wrote about yeild diversity on stonefruit from cuttings...
https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/general-marijuana-growing/1859433d1319791212-my-little-grow-thread-neraoppollo-035.jpg
Drift happens but it takes a minute... Like 700-1000 generations I belive luthur Burbank wrote about yeild diversity on stonefruit from cuttings...
https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/general-marijuana-growing/1859433d1319791212-my-little-grow-thread-neraoppollo-035.jpg
Whore2Culture
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This is what I plan on doing (for now).
I have an 8 x 5g bucket RDWC in a 2x4 tent.
First grow: bagseed-mostly/all indica (work kinks out of system & learn)
Dip 16 beans, pick best 8, cull ~4 males, identify fav lady(s 2?) and clone her.
The clones will be taken within first week of 12/12.
Since clones were somewhat into flower, they will take longer to be ready.
That gives me time to finish this first batch and then move in the clones.
I also will have pitched more beans which I will compare with the mother plants pics at that stage.
Leaves me options.
After I play with scrog etc a bit, I'll be ready for real beans.
I figure if I can pull off this "slow cloning", I can avoid setting up another tent for ma, and still do continuous clones.
Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it (maybe... we'll see).
I have an 8 x 5g bucket RDWC in a 2x4 tent.
First grow: bagseed-mostly/all indica (work kinks out of system & learn)
Dip 16 beans, pick best 8, cull ~4 males, identify fav lady(s 2?) and clone her.
The clones will be taken within first week of 12/12.
Since clones were somewhat into flower, they will take longer to be ready.
That gives me time to finish this first batch and then move in the clones.
I also will have pitched more beans which I will compare with the mother plants pics at that stage.
Leaves me options.
After I play with scrog etc a bit, I'll be ready for real beans.
I figure if I can pull off this "slow cloning", I can avoid setting up another tent for ma, and still do continuous clones.
Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it (maybe... we'll see).
dvs1038
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Ronin I think either I misunderstood or u did, what ur sayin bout ur strains is fine, but do u believe ur strain would have stayed the same if u never had a mother plant and just took a clone from it ever year and grew that as ur new plant then harvested the plant u took the clone from, sounds to me like that is what he says he has been doing with that strain of his for the last 25yrs. And from what I've looked into regarding cloning and mothers if u continue to take clones from clones from clones in and endless cycle the strain will lose sumptin over time. The funniest part I've read in this whole thread was the person that said a plant goes from seed to flower in 4 months, that is news to me unless u created an auto-flower strain in ur house or bought auto-flower seeds without even knowing it.
What is so funny about this ??
researchkitty
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A plant does go from seed to flower in four months.
2 months for flower
1-2 week to germinate/root
2 weeks veg
Our mothers were selected from seeds June 2011. So that puts em close to a year old. We're getting ready to replace them with cuttings of the same mothers, just to re-grow the bushes a little better this time around.
There's no reason to doubt decade old genetics!
2 months for flower
1-2 week to germinate/root
2 weeks veg
Our mothers were selected from seeds June 2011. So that puts em close to a year old. We're getting ready to replace them with cuttings of the same mothers, just to re-grow the bushes a little better this time around.
There's no reason to doubt decade old genetics!
dvs1038
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scuse me I'll rephrase what they said, they said any plant over 4 months old is a freak, and if u notice I didn't say it was impossible for a plant go from seed to flower in 4months its usually just an auto-flowering strain maybe u should actually try to read what I posted before u both respond?
and P.S wow a 2 week veg seriously, does any grower in this entire forum have a 2 week veg period? I doubt that more that the person that says 4 months from seed to flower. Also I would like to point out that ur talkin bout veg and flower periods like the plant picks them for itself the whole point of growing em is so that we can control those stages to get max yield.
and P.S wow a 2 week veg seriously, does any grower in this entire forum have a 2 week veg period? I doubt that more that the person that says 4 months from seed to flower. Also I would like to point out that ur talkin bout veg and flower periods like the plant picks them for itself the whole point of growing em is so that we can control those stages to get max yield.
All I asked was why is this so funny ?
Some people go 12/12 right from the start and finish up in less than 4 months.
Even if you veg for a month they would still end up less than 4 months old.
You can veg a plant for more than a year if you want to. It would be unnatural, but you can still do it if you leave the light on 24/0.
Some people go 12/12 right from the start and finish up in less than 4 months.
Even if you veg for a month they would still end up less than 4 months old.
You can veg a plant for more than a year if you want to. It would be unnatural, but you can still do it if you leave the light on 24/0.
dvs1038
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idk it just seems funny to me when I've known ppl that have had the same plant for such a long time(not clone), to then turn around and hear someone say a plant is a freak if its over 4 months old. Maybe its just me, I do know I have an odd sense of humor. But its like I say to the gay guys and straight girls if u can take a ***k u can take a joke!
pharmacoping
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I'm assuming by the auto flower referece that 4 month lifespan of a mj plant seems like a very short time for you? correct me if wrong.
I never have a plant in my veg room longer than 30 days. seedlings go in the veg room when the second set/leaves appear, about 4 days after soak.
None of the 72 plant/14 strain grow that I manage ever flowers for more than 60 days(two months) from the day I decide to flower it, by changing the light cycle to 12/12. (I think you do not know this fact)
So , in fact, my plants are closer to seed to harvest in three months...how you like me naaw ?
If your friends plants are taking longer than this to do their job.....here's a clue....
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researchkitty
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I veg for two weeks. What's wrong with that? Granted, our grow is somewhat small, only 17,000 watts of lights. =P
obijohn
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Ive seen people say this about the plants life cycle. Five months old is not unusual just for vegging before flowering. Big plants = big yield
researchkitty
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Bingo! One plant, four 1000w vertical lights. Welcome to the UnderCurrent systems.
I dont think dvs1038 really understands much more than is on the basic grow dvd's.
legallyflying
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Lol. 5 months of veg? Phuck that shit. Can you imagine vegging fit five months in a UC? It would bust through the ceiling
pharmacoping
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maybe if you were hobby growing for yourself,but caregivers are held to a higher standard of selection, timing, laws.....all of which would negate the possibility of vegging for long periods of time. Harvest weight is not on our agenda. High quality A+ medical marijuana is, available daily, with a dozen strain choices.
pharmacoping
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i like weed