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Well they do, and in fact the best are usually to the point. It's not a matter of whether the information is correct, or true and if you want an example of that in action go and look up DHMO. You don't want to be one of those persons, worse you don't want to believe that lots of scientific stuff gives it any weight. But dope growing is not the same as the science.
Yes, there's the pH and all the correct nutient ratios and values will differ by amounts that are completely unimportant. Example, I just saw a thread where someone starts out by saying they want to know flush or not. The correct answer is pointless, you've got bigger problems one of which is asking more people is not somehow magically going to get you the right answer unless you can sort the shit from the shinola. I sympathise with you newbies, although I was growing hydro 25 years ago it was clones, I knew nothing of this strange autoflower, other than what! no light change, no having to seal off everything, not being allow to look at the girls whenever I like? It's a no brainer. I think autoflowers are good to begin with because you'll learn that they're all beautiful in their own way.
You see newbies need to learn, you can't and you shouldn't want pages and pages of stuff. You have to trust sometimes and the trick is who to trust, the first thing I wonder is why people do not investigate the persons qualifications first. Newbies need to not get caught in the rabbit hole.
See my thinking is this, I have almost the simplest system but this will be just as good. A square res whatever size, lets say 60L there's some holes punched in the top and a round pot filled with clay pellets sits on top, That is it, a pot sitting on a box. The only bit of electric stuff is whatever is the smallest water pump that will suit, usually 8 watt would be plenty, that is virtually silent. Nothing else. But this simplicity is for a purpose and I'm now going to explain this purpose for to head off any trolls.
My advice comes from seeing the same state of mind that I was in back then and I think what would I go back in time and tell my past self and that is what I"m telling you, so disagree with me by all means, be abusive if you dare, because I don't mind abuse as long as you can back it up. But please try to think before posting, read what you're writing and ask yourself if you have fully understood.
Actually let me back up a bit, for the adventurous newbie by all means try my shallow water culture in the round pots from https://www.nutrifield.us/products/pro-pot-system-15-27l/ anyway I've gone off the track a bit.
OK so the point of this is that you've eliminated all variables, and when you grow your autos, you must see as I did because I did nothing special no secret sauces, no special ir or uv, I bought into all that once and I'm not suggesting it's shite, although it might be, I wouldn't be surprised but the point is it doesn't matter because if I'm growing buds that are solid chunks of tasty rosin then er what do I suppose UV is going to do oh right it's like suncream the plant is now anthropomorphised into some sort of I don't fucking know but the point I want to make now is that it was all pointless work for nothing.
I had fucking charts and a calculator and I went through all the different suggested ratios on the GH bottle and with a slide rule and some divine sorcery I had a page of numbers that made sense, at the time but later on it was just utter madness .... where this is going is here... after months of this while waiting for my first harvest I was laughing at myself, I was like seeing myself as Alicia was in
How did this happen, I know what I'm doing with weed, I thought, I'm a smart guy so how did I fall down this rabbit hole, I'm still working that out.
So that's what this thread is about, I went there and I came back. Now it's just and endless show, always in the same conditions, never used cal mag. Maybe I would have got some improvement somehow, most newbies would be overjoyed if they got 4 zips.
Sometimes I feel like putting some soil in a fibre pot just for fun, I've got the light spill, but then I got what fucking for. I had to spend a long time to understand that it's extra brain damage for no reason and while you go through life if you do not use your experience to reduce brain damage, well you know what happens. You end up in the Australian Growers Thread, or as I like to call them TheCunse™ that's a bit harsh there's a few who may not be but at the least they are gutless twat. I made the awful error of thinking that would be a good thread, being Australian. Fuck I'm an idiot after a lifetime I can't get out of this habit of feeling sorry for them and long story short, I got fully sucked in. I was pretty pissed off with rollitup, but of course I've come to realise it was my own fault.
So here's another thing you've got to be aware that what you need is the tools on how to sort through, you need a shorthand. But I've done better, if you follow my instruction why won't you get the same result. Oh yeah, if you can possibly do without a tent then do it, just unnecessary hindrance, you gain virtually nothing except more brain damage which is what we want to get rid of remember.
Let me illustrate some example of the pitfalls, I spent years wondering about the tides and I had a basic understanding but I wanted to follow it from the first scientific explanations before Newton. OK so finally I decided to understand it, and I got it. And then I saw this video. And if you're not shocked then you haven't got the point
Here's another thing after I chanced upon this tale of early 20 century quaintness https://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-07/new-york-times-nasa-youre-right-rockets-do-work-space/
OK that's a cute story then I came across this I was just reading it for fun, I don't know why and I almost fell off my chair. The point is again just to illustrate that you cannot get away from it, you have to do some thinking for yourself. http://teachertech.rice.edu/Participants/louviere/Newton/law3.html
This is what newbies need to see, Or not, I put this up, and you work it out, it might be all shite, don't believe anything. Belief is for religion we want to know, but we also want to know what we are ultimately doing, sure we want to get the pH down to 2 decimal places, after all it can't hurt. Yes, it can hurt, brain damage remember, I mean. pH is tricky, it takes a little while to get the hang of it, but the indicator drops are the most accurate for the least brain damage. When I just said that one time on the 420 forum yes the one that has trolls for moderators with rainbow unicorn numbat, cellophane mushroom ..where was I oh yeah I just gave an opinion that 'indicator drops are more accurate for what you need. Now get this, a mod answer me angrily something like "don't post false information". The sad part is that I took them seriously for a moment after I discovered that the whole place is a troll nursery. So yes that's another thing newbies need to know, anyone who cannot prove to you somehow that they know what they are talking about, or even if they are experts giving you great knowledge, some people forget the mind of the newbie.
So you want good advice tailored to a newbie. In fact everyone should do this because what I've learned is that same plants from the same pack in the same conditions flowering two weeks a head. I've got a couple of blackberries in the same pot, one has the purple the other has none yet. So far I'm only coming to realise that this is another possible **the most important** think I'd have wanted my future self to tell me. Why? because I'll show you that it's the only way out of the rabbit hole because the best knowledge is direct knowledge, when you know something because you've done it and seen it and know it to be true, then the whole fucking world can call you an idiot that is what you gain.
Now here's a thought experiment, someone is going to do a grow test under HLG, and a Mars QB and some other white light it doesn't matter. OK ostensibly this is a test for the lights obviously but after a year of following my advice you'll not bother to pay any attention because one plant growing taller or flowering faster may have been from the lights, but how will you know. That's all you need to know for a newbie, all quality lights are the same. When you're then confidently growing plenty of herb and you've got a feel for these plants and you have to do almost nothing, So now you're ready to maybe put some UV in cause I'd probably be able to tell, but would I then I realise, I'm falling into it again.
I'm always questioning my previous understanding, like at the beginning I was consumed with the spectrum of the ChiLed, and I see again it was all to get the exact same dope that I now get.
So that's my advice to newbies, there's nothing I reckon anyone can add, there's nothing to debate, but if anyone does add anything please give your reasoning. Because in the end we just want to know the truth, it's not a contest to see who was right. There are few things I'd welcome more that someone convincing me that something I think I understand is wrong. But you can just tell me I'm wrong, you need to convince me.
Peace. hope there's not too many typos.
Yes, there's the pH and all the correct nutient ratios and values will differ by amounts that are completely unimportant. Example, I just saw a thread where someone starts out by saying they want to know flush or not. The correct answer is pointless, you've got bigger problems one of which is asking more people is not somehow magically going to get you the right answer unless you can sort the shit from the shinola. I sympathise with you newbies, although I was growing hydro 25 years ago it was clones, I knew nothing of this strange autoflower, other than what! no light change, no having to seal off everything, not being allow to look at the girls whenever I like? It's a no brainer. I think autoflowers are good to begin with because you'll learn that they're all beautiful in their own way.
You see newbies need to learn, you can't and you shouldn't want pages and pages of stuff. You have to trust sometimes and the trick is who to trust, the first thing I wonder is why people do not investigate the persons qualifications first. Newbies need to not get caught in the rabbit hole.
See my thinking is this, I have almost the simplest system but this will be just as good. A square res whatever size, lets say 60L there's some holes punched in the top and a round pot filled with clay pellets sits on top, That is it, a pot sitting on a box. The only bit of electric stuff is whatever is the smallest water pump that will suit, usually 8 watt would be plenty, that is virtually silent. Nothing else. But this simplicity is for a purpose and I'm now going to explain this purpose for to head off any trolls.
My advice comes from seeing the same state of mind that I was in back then and I think what would I go back in time and tell my past self and that is what I"m telling you, so disagree with me by all means, be abusive if you dare, because I don't mind abuse as long as you can back it up. But please try to think before posting, read what you're writing and ask yourself if you have fully understood.
Actually let me back up a bit, for the adventurous newbie by all means try my shallow water culture in the round pots from https://www.nutrifield.us/products/pro-pot-system-15-27l/ anyway I've gone off the track a bit.
OK so the point of this is that you've eliminated all variables, and when you grow your autos, you must see as I did because I did nothing special no secret sauces, no special ir or uv, I bought into all that once and I'm not suggesting it's shite, although it might be, I wouldn't be surprised but the point is it doesn't matter because if I'm growing buds that are solid chunks of tasty rosin then er what do I suppose UV is going to do oh right it's like suncream the plant is now anthropomorphised into some sort of I don't fucking know but the point I want to make now is that it was all pointless work for nothing.
I had fucking charts and a calculator and I went through all the different suggested ratios on the GH bottle and with a slide rule and some divine sorcery I had a page of numbers that made sense, at the time but later on it was just utter madness .... where this is going is here... after months of this while waiting for my first harvest I was laughing at myself, I was like seeing myself as Alicia was in
So that's what this thread is about, I went there and I came back. Now it's just and endless show, always in the same conditions, never used cal mag. Maybe I would have got some improvement somehow, most newbies would be overjoyed if they got 4 zips.
Sometimes I feel like putting some soil in a fibre pot just for fun, I've got the light spill, but then I got what fucking for. I had to spend a long time to understand that it's extra brain damage for no reason and while you go through life if you do not use your experience to reduce brain damage, well you know what happens. You end up in the Australian Growers Thread, or as I like to call them TheCunse™ that's a bit harsh there's a few who may not be but at the least they are gutless twat. I made the awful error of thinking that would be a good thread, being Australian. Fuck I'm an idiot after a lifetime I can't get out of this habit of feeling sorry for them and long story short, I got fully sucked in. I was pretty pissed off with rollitup, but of course I've come to realise it was my own fault.
So here's another thing you've got to be aware that what you need is the tools on how to sort through, you need a shorthand. But I've done better, if you follow my instruction why won't you get the same result. Oh yeah, if you can possibly do without a tent then do it, just unnecessary hindrance, you gain virtually nothing except more brain damage which is what we want to get rid of remember.
Let me illustrate some example of the pitfalls, I spent years wondering about the tides and I had a basic understanding but I wanted to follow it from the first scientific explanations before Newton. OK so finally I decided to understand it, and I got it. And then I saw this video. And if you're not shocked then you haven't got the point
Here's another thing after I chanced upon this tale of early 20 century quaintness https://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-07/new-york-times-nasa-youre-right-rockets-do-work-space/
OK that's a cute story then I came across this I was just reading it for fun, I don't know why and I almost fell off my chair. The point is again just to illustrate that you cannot get away from it, you have to do some thinking for yourself. http://teachertech.rice.edu/Participants/louviere/Newton/law3.html
This is what newbies need to see, Or not, I put this up, and you work it out, it might be all shite, don't believe anything. Belief is for religion we want to know, but we also want to know what we are ultimately doing, sure we want to get the pH down to 2 decimal places, after all it can't hurt. Yes, it can hurt, brain damage remember, I mean. pH is tricky, it takes a little while to get the hang of it, but the indicator drops are the most accurate for the least brain damage. When I just said that one time on the 420 forum yes the one that has trolls for moderators with rainbow unicorn numbat, cellophane mushroom ..where was I oh yeah I just gave an opinion that 'indicator drops are more accurate for what you need. Now get this, a mod answer me angrily something like "don't post false information". The sad part is that I took them seriously for a moment after I discovered that the whole place is a troll nursery. So yes that's another thing newbies need to know, anyone who cannot prove to you somehow that they know what they are talking about, or even if they are experts giving you great knowledge, some people forget the mind of the newbie.
So you want good advice tailored to a newbie. In fact everyone should do this because what I've learned is that same plants from the same pack in the same conditions flowering two weeks a head. I've got a couple of blackberries in the same pot, one has the purple the other has none yet. So far I'm only coming to realise that this is another possible **the most important** think I'd have wanted my future self to tell me. Why? because I'll show you that it's the only way out of the rabbit hole because the best knowledge is direct knowledge, when you know something because you've done it and seen it and know it to be true, then the whole fucking world can call you an idiot that is what you gain.
Now here's a thought experiment, someone is going to do a grow test under HLG, and a Mars QB and some other white light it doesn't matter. OK ostensibly this is a test for the lights obviously but after a year of following my advice you'll not bother to pay any attention because one plant growing taller or flowering faster may have been from the lights, but how will you know. That's all you need to know for a newbie, all quality lights are the same. When you're then confidently growing plenty of herb and you've got a feel for these plants and you have to do almost nothing, So now you're ready to maybe put some UV in cause I'd probably be able to tell, but would I then I realise, I'm falling into it again.
I'm always questioning my previous understanding, like at the beginning I was consumed with the spectrum of the ChiLed, and I see again it was all to get the exact same dope that I now get.
So that's my advice to newbies, there's nothing I reckon anyone can add, there's nothing to debate, but if anyone does add anything please give your reasoning. Because in the end we just want to know the truth, it's not a contest to see who was right. There are few things I'd welcome more that someone convincing me that something I think I understand is wrong. But you can just tell me I'm wrong, you need to convince me.
Peace. hope there's not too many typos.
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