Climate Change? Of course. Which way?

Anyone who actually uses that shill Spencer as an authority is clearly dragging the bottom of the sesspool of "science". I am fairly certain that he is funded by Exxon in one way or another - not exactly an unbiased opinion. And the moment he is linked with ID "theory", he loses the last shred of credibility. Oh, and he is also on the board of the Marshall Institute, an anti-regulation "think" tank funded by Scaife and Bradley (for those of you who don't track hard right funding - Scaife is kinda like a super Soros only on the right, or didn't you think the right had such creatures?) It is pretty clear he makes his living being paid to be contrary for the right. And you would use his words as any reflection of scientific reality?Another loon paid and mounted by the self interested right in order to churn lies and distrust, nothing new here.
 
One more - The "World Natural Health Organization" is neither a scientific group nor are they unbiased and are hardly an authority on global warming. By the way, from what I gather, the "cloud effect" can as easily be a GW inducer, being that water vapor is another green house gas.
 
This is true, but a star and a complex ecosystem are 2 entirely different things. Not to mention our understanding of these things is constantly changing. ;-)
True. However a star is not simple either.
I am not saying that we necessarily can model climate effectively. The sheer wealth of models being presented, with the rather broad palette of results/predictions therefrom, do seem to argue that we don't yet have a good handle on the climate prediction problem. Conversely I don't think there is any wisdom in not trying to build the models!
lol! I would hardly consider myself a lay person. I understand what you're saying, but there is a reason why this debate continues. What do you think is the reason for differing opinions amongst the scientific community? Could it be that there are things which science has barely scratched the surface of understanding? Could it be that the earth is an enormously complex system with an enormous amount of variables. I'm not saying one way or the other. I think the most plausible scenario is that we are having an impact. To say that we aren't is, IMO, ludicrous. The question remains, what level of impact are we having? We know that climate is constantly changing. Many scientists believe we are in period of warming, (coinciding with AGW) which may explain the dramatic effect we seem to be seeing. I'm no climatologist, so for me to argue one way or the other is sort of foolish IMO.:blsmoke:

Unfortunately, sticking to rigorous empiricism will only allow us to answer the question in hindsight, far too late to do anything with any damage done except document it. It's a rock close to a hard place imo ... we have an urgent need for climatological/geodynamic models that are at once precise (they provide narrow boundaries for what would happen) and accurate (those narrow boundaries bracket the actual).
We don't seem to be there at this time, but the urgent need for answers preys on one of the worst human qualities imo: this amazing hunger for the authoritative word ... be it a religious text, the week's horoscope, or the Delphic pronouncements of leading men of Science. cn
 
Sure I read it. But I would say that given the fact that the author holds a PhD, is a climatologist and NASA scientist that rather than write something that only people with his level of intelligence, knowledge and experience could understand he wrote it so the masses could grasp the key points.

Given his credentials I am sure he could write something that would leave you, me and most other people scratching our heads and wondering what the heck he just said.

Never the less, I am commenting on what I did understand him saying. Being a climatologists does not exclude a person from being a conspiracy theorist or biased. Actually I think about 3% of them are, hence the 97% agreement status. If he was reporting actual climate data in the article, I would not be qualified to say if it was pseudoscience, but he is using very basic attacks. It only takes a firm understanding of the scientific process to cast serious doubt on what he is saying, and what he is saying has all the signs of being conspiracy logic. In this article he relies on many tricks, and the truth does not need to utilize such ticks.

The article does bring up at least one valid point; "A second, related problem is that we cannot put the Earth in the laboratory to run controlled experiments on." Scientifically speaking, this is a huge problem. Without a control group and so many variables, a lot of assumptions must be made. I have no idea if climate change is anthropogenic or not, but my take on it is if there is even the slightest chance of it being true we should probably do something about it.:shock:

I would want to see specific examples of how not being able to put the earth in a laboratory refutes the data we have. We can test in a laboratory many of the factors and components of climate change, and I think we can have reasonable confidence in this data without making an argument from ignorance. He speaks as if this is not simply a challenge to science, but an unsurpassable roadblock. It comes across as disingenuous, since he is speaking as a scientific expert.

This is true, but a star and a complex ecosystem are 2 entirely different things. Not to mention our understanding of these things is constantly changing.

Exactly, because we can study and learn about things outside of a laboratory, we change what we know, and we get better at it. This would seem to support the notion that not being able to put the earth in a lab is not a deal breaker, nor should it discount what we have learned.

I understand what you're saying, but there is a reason why this debate continues. What do you think is the reason for differing opinions amongst the scientific community?

There is no significant difference in opinion. This debate, or this aspect of it, continues because of people's misunderstanding of the facts and unawareness that scientist have stopped arguing.
 
Never the less, I am commenting on what I did understand him saying. Being a climatologists does not exclude a person from being a conspiracy theorist or biased. Actually I think about 3% of them are, hence the 97% agreement status.


As all alarmist propagandists you refuse to accept that the claimed 97% agreement does not exist. Among the various hacked emails were numbers found where even among global warming cult members there is not agreement and that numbers of them do no like how it is inaccurately claimed that they are all in agreement.

But if you want and need to believe that a true consensus exists and that the sky is falling, go right ahead, Chicken Little. Just don't expect those who are not equally gullible as you to believe the same as you.
 
As all alarmist propagandists you refuse to accept that the claimed 97% agreement does not exist. Among the various hacked emails were numbers found where even among global warming cult members there is not agreement and that numbers of them do no like how it is inaccurately claimed that they are all in agreement.

But if you want and need to believe that a true consensus exists and that the sky is falling, go right ahead, Chicken Little. Just don't expect those who are not equally gullible as you to believe the same as you.


Alarmist propagandist? I have been calling for careful rationale and responsible interpretation of evidence. I have been given sufficient indication that a consensus exists from multiple independent sources, which at the very least makes it reasonable to accept. I don't believe I have called for any alarm and have taken the time to explain why I think the article posted is in error. This in no way makes me right, but it does seem odd to call this behavior alarmist propaganda. Perhaps you are just eager to label me in order to reduce your cognitive dissonance.

I do not believe in a consensus because I want and/or need to. I believe it because their is sufficient evidence to convince me. Science is not saying the sky is falling or the human race is ending. It says that significant changes to the climate are happening that will impact us. A consensus does not indicate that ALL scientists agree. It indicates that there are no significant valid arguments left to be made about what the data says.

I do not expect anyone to believe the same as me, but that is not a reason to keep quiet when I observe people being irrational and unreasonable. I find it interesting that your entire post did not address any of the criticisms I made of the article, but instead simply labeled me a gullible alarmist propagandist. Is groundless name calling and dismissal the normal way in which you handle opposition?
 
Alarmist propagandist? I have been calling for careful rationale and responsible interpretation of evidence. I have been given sufficient indication that a consensus exists from multiple independent sources, which at the very least makes it reasonable to accept. I don't believe I have called for any alarm and have taken the time to explain why I think the article posted is in error. This in no way makes me right, but it does seem odd to call this behavior alarmist propaganda. Perhaps you are just eager to label me in order to reduce your cognitive dissonance.

I do not believe in a consensus because I want and/or need to. I believe it because their is sufficient evidence to convince me. Science is not saying the sky is falling or the human race is ending. It says that significant changes to the climate are happening that will impact us. A consensus does not indicate that ALL scientists agree. It indicates that there are no significant valid arguments left to be made about what the data says.

I do not expect anyone to believe the same as me, but that is not a reason to keep quiet when I observe people being irrational and unreasonable. I find it interesting that your entire post did not address any of the criticisms I made of the article, but instead simply labeled me a gullible alarmist propagandist. Is groundless name calling and dismissal the normal way in which you handle opposition?
Yep! Pretty much! :-|
 
Alarmist propagandist? I have been calling for careful rationale and responsible interpretation of evidence. I have been given sufficient indication that a consensus exists from multiple independent sources, which at the very least makes it reasonable to accept.


How can you ignore emails between researchers that are allegedly part of your claimed 97% that prove they are not in agreement and that the so-called consensus is a fallacious propagandistic claim used to attempt to create a false reality that will sound convincing enough to fool the masses?

Why is it that you eagerly will accept their doom and gloom scare tactics but you refuse to accept what they have said to each other, in what they thought would be private and nothing they discussed would ever be revealed to the public?

If at any time they would be their most honest when discussing in what was believed to be a safe and private way. So why will you refuse to accept what they discussed with each other and instead only believe what they decided among themselves to be revealed for public consumption?


It makes no sense whatsoever. It would be like if in the past people refused to believe what was heard said on Nixon's secret tapes and instead only believed what he claimed when giving a public speech or when questioned and knowing his answers would be made public.



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31,487 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs.





Alarmists try to portray the science of global warming as settled by the “consensus”. There may be a media-based political consensus, but there is much non-consensus in the scientific community – but those who disagree do not get coverage, and in some cases get their funding cut off (which is why the most vocal group of critics of the anthropogenic theory is retired atmospheric science professors and researchers).

Nigel Calder, a former editor of New Scientist views CO2 as a symptom of global warming caused by the sun. [http://www.business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1363818.ece ] He says: “[FONT=&quot]Twenty years ago, climate research became politicised in favour of one particular hypothesis, which redefined the subject as the study of the effect of greenhouse gases[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. As a result, the rebellious spirits essential for innovative and trustworthy science are greeted with impediments to their research careers[/FONT]”.



IPCC Cross-Examination

May, 2010: A “cross-examination” of the IPCC (referred to as the “climate establishment”) was conducted Jason Johnston of the University of Virginia School of Law [http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1612851##]

“[FONT=&quot]A review of the peer-edited literature reveals a systematic tendency of the climate establishment to engage in a variety of stylized rhetorical techniques that seem to oversell what is actually known about climate change while concealing fundamental uncertainties and open questions regarding many of the key processes involved in climate change. Fundamental open questions include not only the size but the direction of feedback effects that are responsible for the bulk of the temperature increase predicted to result from atmospheric greenhouse gas increases: while climate models all presume that such feedback effects are on balance strongly positive, more and more peer-edited scientific papers seem to suggest that feedback effects may be small or even negative. The cross-examination conducted in this paper reveals many additional areas where the peer-edited literature seems to conflict with the picture painted by establishment climate science, ranging from the magnitude of 20th century surface temperature increases and their relation to past temperatures; the possibility that inherent variability in the earth’s non-linear climate system, and not increases in CO2, may explain observed late 20th century warming; the ability of climate models to actually explain past temperatures; and, finally, substantial doubt about the methodological validity of models used to make highly publicized predictions of global warming impacts such as species loss.[/FONT]”

“[FONT=&quot]when one looks closely at the scientific literature, it turns out that some of the most crucial (and actually testable) predictions or assumptions underlying predictions of dangerous climate change are not in fact being confirmed by observations[/FONT]”

The entire “cross-examination” is worth reading.




There was another claimed scientific consensus in the 70's. The scientists involved were as positive of their claims as the alarmists of today.

Do you remember this? I do.



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The claim was made that; “[FONT=&quot]The world could be as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age."

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Alarmist scientists were incorrect then. So why would anyone be gullible enough to believe that alarmist scientists are correct now?
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The alarmist fraud has taken advantage of a normal temperature change and attempted to blame it on man and make it sound like it would have catastrophic results. Was, for a period of time, the planet getting warmer? Of course it got warmer, it was undergoing a normalization process. It went up since the early 1800s, before the Industrial Revolution, because we’re coming out of the Little Ice Age, not because we’re putting more carbon dioxide into the air. The increase stopped in something like 1998 and since something like 2003 the temperature has been decreasing.



U.S. and global Temperatures are cooling
*October 2009 U.S. temperatures according to NOAA were the third coldest in 115 years of record keeping, 4 degrees below the average temperature for this month. link October 2009 also had the most snow in the U.S. than has ever been recorded for that month.
*Germany recorded in 2009 its lowest October temperature in history link. New Zealand had record low October temperatures and record late snows link

Siberia may have had its coldest winter in history in 2009-2010 link European and Asian temperatures in the winter 2009-2010 were well below normal link

*According to the NCDC U.S. temperatures in October 2009 was on average the third coldest in 116 years, November was the 4th coldest, and February 2010 was the 29th coldest. U.S. temperatures December '09 - February '10 were well below normal link. UK experiences coldest May temps in 15 years link , October '09 through March '10 was the snowiest on record in the northern hemisphere link
*In the U.S. temperatures cooled in five of the last seven decades even though CO2 levels increased steadily throughout this period. link link

*In February 2010, the Northern Hemisphere had the second largest area of snow coverage ever recorded link and North America had the most snow cover ever recorded. Snow coverage in the Northern hemisphere has been growing since 1998. Snow in areas where it usually does not snow can only be because temperatures are colder, and not from global warming. The additional snow was not because of higher levels of humidity, according to NCDC February '10 was the 47th driest in 116 years.
July 2010, South America experiences historic cold weather link
Argentina experiences coldest winter in 40 years link

Summer 2010, record cold in Australia link

Cold weather kills 600 rare Penguins in South Africa link

In spite of all the hot weather of late, according to NOAA 62% of the continental U.S. had below normal temperatures January-July 2010
August 2010, hundreds die in Peru from record cold link October 2010, hundreds of thousands of sheep die in New Zealand from winter weather link

Early December 2010, snow impacts millions in Europe link Denmark experiences coldest November 2010 temps in 131 years link Sweden braces for coldest November 2010 temperatures in over 100 yearsl link UK midlands expect coldest November temps in 134 years link

December 2010, The central England temperature record in early December was the second coolest since records began in 1649, UK experiences coldest December in history link UK is paralyzed by blizzards. Only essential travel allowed.
Near record cold in Europe, India, and Asia link

January 2011, 7,000 buffaloes die from cold in Vietnam link Bitter cold sets records in Korea link 800,000 animals lost from cold in Mongolia link Snow flattens 100,000 homes in China
February 2011, Moscow has coldest winter in 100 years link. Record low temperatures in San Francisco and Spokane link Link Minneapolis has most snow emergency days in city's history link New York City and Philadelphia shatter snowfall records link

Winter 2010-2011 in the US, 39th coldest in 113 years of records. link link Temperatures are dropping an average of 4.1 deg F per decade link

Coldest March ('11) in Australia history link Global temperatures in first 3 months of '11 are the coolest in the past decade link May '11 Australian ski slopes to open early with early cold link Seattle has coldest April in history in 2011 link Darwin Austalia has coldest May and June 2011 temps in history link

Northern Australia has coolest May in history link Record 2011 US snowpacks threaten western states link Record Sierra Mtn snowfall link
Record 2011 snowpack in Rockies link

July 2011, South America gripped by brutal winter link July 2011 New Zealand sets record for coldest day ever link Unusual snows hit South Africa in late July 2011 link
August 2011, Auckland New Zealand has coldest temperature in history, and first snow since 1939 link New Zealand worst blizzards in 50 years link

Sept '11 Minnesota has record low temperatures and tie earliest snow record linkParts of the UK have the coolest summer in 20 years, butterfly population suffers link Switzerland has record September snows link

October '11, extremely rare early snow in Germany link Earliest snows in Ireland since 1964 link New York City has largest October snow since the Civil War link Many records set for earliest snow and most snow in the northeast USA for October, millions without power link Many snow records broken in New England. link Colorado ski resorts have ealiest season opening in history link 80% of Australia cooler than normal in first ten months of 2011 link Record 2011 snow in U.S. link

November '11 British Columbia ski resort has earliest opening in its history link record Alaska snow link Russia south hit with record low temps link Northern Hemisphere has record snow cover extent for this date link Fairbanks Alaska has record low temps of -41F, 39 degrees below avg temp. link
December '11, Australia has coolest start to summer in 50 years, Brisbane coldest temps in 126 years link

The best and most accurate way to measure global temperatures are from satellites that measure atmospheric temperatures. See how atmospheric temperatures have changed since the start of measurement in 1979 link 

Total global polar sea ice extent is largely unchanged over the past 30 years
*When adding the sea ice volumes at both poles there is about the same ice as 30 years ago link. Antarctica has 90% of the world's ice and had the most sea ice ever recorded at the end of 2008, over one million square kilometers above the average maximum. The global sea ice extent today (combined sea ice at both Poles) is nearly the same as the average of the last 30 years according to NASA and NSIDC link link View today's Antarctic sea ice extent compared to the 1979-2007 average (National Snow and Ice Data Center) link link While it is true Arctic sea ice volumes have been overall slightly less today than the average of the last 30 years the ice there has been growing the past several years and as of mid September 2009 there was 24% more ice than just two years earlier, which is over 1 million square kilometers of new ice since 2007. There is also substantially more multi year ice in the Arctic in 2009 than just one year earlier link Antarctic sea ice extent in September 2009 is also growing and is 1 million square kilometers more than the previous year. In 2009 the Antarctic had the most Summer ice ever recorded link. The 2010 Arctic sea ice melt has started later than at any time ever recorded. Arctic ice volumes in April 2010 are the largest in nine years and are now close to the average of the last 30.View today's Arctic sea ice extent, AMSR-E link NSIDC link (Nansen) link DMI link

2010 Antarctic ice extent was the third largest ever recorded. Average snowfall in Antarctica was the most ever recorded link

See current ice conditions in the Northern Hemisphere link and the Southern Hemisphere link

Ocean temperatures are cooling*NSIDC/NASA AMSR-E also shows that the overall trend of ocean temperatures since 2002 is one of cooling in spite of a recent short lived El Nino warming event link

The oceans have been cooling which is contrary to climate model predictions link See how Argo is measuring ocean temperatures throughout the globe link Argo research (with its 3,300 ocean buoys) has found ocean temperatures are cooler. link link

The PDO (Pacific) is moving towards a cool period (La Nina). See current ocean surface temperatures from the NOAA link link

Track mid Atlantic storm formation here, NOAA link

Global storms and their intensity are in decline
*The trend for violent tornadoes is in decline in the US link. U.S. landfall hurricanes are less numerous and powerful than decades ago. Global hurricane, typhoon, and cyclone activity are nearing 50 year lows according to Florida State University link Deaths from severe weather events are in decline link

Global cyclone activity is at 33 year lows at the end of the 2010 hurricane season. Pacific storms lowest since recording began in 1945. link

There have been few hurricanes to reach US shores in the past three years which is highly unusual link

Global hurricane (tornado) activity in 2010 was at the lowest level in three decades even though 2010 was a warm year overall link

Polar Bear populations are of record size
Some say Polar Bears are threatened but there are more polar bears today than ever recorded, an increase of 300%+ since the 1950s. link link The scientific name for Polar bears is Ursus Maritimus, which means sea bear. Polar Bears are excellent swimmers and can swim 200 miles or more link. A Polar Bear with a radio tracking collar swam over 400 miles in 9 days and without rest link Polar bears have survived periods when the Arctic melted completely in the past (they moved to land). Polar bear face bright future link

Solar activity is lower. This has led to cooler temperatures in the past
So what has changed? CO2 concentrations continue to increase yet temperatures have been falling since 2002? Polar ice is growing. Storm intensity is in decline. One reason may be that solar activity is at the lowest level in almost a Century. link link link See what the sun looks like with and without sunspots link In the past periods with fewer sunspots and lower solar activity were ones with cooler temperatures. It is believed by some scientists that lower solar activity increases cloud formation and this has a cooling effect. If the past is a predictor of the future, these changes in solar activity will cause a 30 year period of cooling temperatures on earth and in fact it appears that this has already begun. See solar activity charts here link

See the combined impact of ocean and solar cycles on global temperatures link

Europe, North America and many other areas of the Earth have recently experienced a score of unusually low temperatures. So where is the global warming that we are preparing for?
 
You cannot place any faith in much of the data due to where it is collected.


[h=1]The Impact of Urbanization on Land Temperature Trends[/h] Posted on December 5, 2011 by Anthony Watts
by Zeke Hausfather , Steven Mosher, Matthew Menne , Claude Williams , and Nick Stokes
[Note: this is an AGU poster displayed at the annual meeting, available here as a PDF. I’ve converted it to plain text and images for your reading pleasure. I'm providing it without comment except to say that Steven Mosher has done a great deal of work in creating a very useful database that better defines rural and urban stations better than the metadata we have available now. - Anthony]

Introduction
Large-scale reconstructions of surface temperature rely on measurements from a global network of instruments. With the exception of remote automated sensors, the locations of the instruments tend to be correlated with inhabited areas. This means that urban
ares [sic] are probably oversampled in surface temperature records relative to the total land surface that is actually urbanized.
It has long been known that urbanized areas tend to have higher temperatures than surrounding less developed (or rural) areas due to the concentration of high thermal mass impermeable surfaces (Oke 1982). This has led to some concern that changes in
urban heat island (UHI) effects due to rapid urbanization in many parts of the world over the past three decades may have been responsible for a portion of the rapid rise in measured global land surface temperatures. This concern is reinforced by lower
observed trends in some interpretations of satellite measurements of lower tropospheric temperature over land areas during the same period (Klotzbach et al 2009).

An analysis of the impact of urbanization on temperature trends faces multiple confounding factors. For example, an instrument originally installed in a city frequently will have warmer absolute temperatures than one in a nearby rural area (especially at night), but will not necessarily show a higher trend over time unless the environs change in such a way that the UHI signal is altered in the vicinity of the instrument. Similarly, microsite characteristics that may be unrelated to the larger urban environment can have
notable effects on temperature trends and act counter to or in concert with the ambient UHI signal.
Moreover, the definition of urban areas is subject to some uncertainty, both in terms of how urban form is characterized and at what distance from built surfaces urban-related effects persist. Published station metadata often includes outdated indications of whether a station is urban or rural, and instrument geolocation data can be imprecise, out of date, or otherwise incorrect.
There is also uncertainty over how much explicit correction is needed for urban warming in global temperature reconstructions, and how well homogenization techniques recently introduced in GHCN-Monthly version 3 both detect and correct for inhomogenities
arising from changes in urban form.
To address these issues and obtain a more accurate estimation of the impact of urbanization on land temperature trends, we examine different urbanity proxies at multiple spatial resolutions and urbanity selection criteria through both simple spatial
weighting and station pairing techniques. This study limits itself to unadjusted average temperature data, though we will examine homogenized data in the future to see how much of the UHI signal is removed.
Methods
We examine GHCN-Daily version 2.80 temperature data rather than the more commonly used GHCN-Monthly data as it contains significantly more stations, particularly during the past thirty years, and allows for separate examination of maximum and minimum
temperatures. A relatively high spatial density of stations is useful to allow sampling into various urban and rural station subsets while minimizing biases due to loss of spatial coverage. After excluding stations that have fewer than 36 months at any time in the
period of record or at least one complete year of data during the 1979 to 2010 period, we are left with 14,789 stations.

A complete set of metadata is calculated for each station using the station location information provided in station inventories and publically available GIS datasets. These datasets include: Distance From Coast (0.1 deg), Hyde 3.1 historical population data (5
arc minute), 2000AD Grump Population density (30 arc seconds), Grump Urban Extent, Land use classes from the Harmonized Land Use inventory (5 arc minutes), radiance calibrated Nightlights (30 arc seconds), ISA- Global Impervious Surfaces (30 arc
seconds), Modis Landcover classes (15 arc seconds), and distance from the closest airport (30 arc seconds). In addition, area statistics at progressive radii are calculated around each putative site location.
Stations are then divided into two classes based on various thresholds for urbanity and two analytical methods are used to estimate the bias in trend due to urbanity: a spatial method and a paired station approach. The spatial averaging method relies on
solving a set of linear equations for the stations in each class. For each group of stations, urban and rural, a time series of average temperature offsets was created by fitting the model:

where T represents the observed temperature for each station, month and year, L is a local average temperature for each station for each month (incorporating seasonal variation) and G is the desired global (or regional) average, varying by year. This is fitted
with a weighting that is inversely proportional to a measure of station density. With a G calculated for both urban and rural, the trends can be compared.
The pairwise method proceeds with the same classification of stations and the following steps are taken. An urban base pair is selected based on the length of record. To qualify as a base urban pair a station must have 30 complete years of data in the 1979-2010 window.
Ten out of 12 months of data are required to count as a complete year. For every urban base station rural pairs are selected based on distance and data overlap. For every urban base station the rural stations are exhaustively searched and all those rural pairs within 500km are assigned to the base station. Since rural stations may have short records the entire rural ensemble is evaluated for data overlap with the urban base pair. 300 months of overlap are required. If the collection of rural stations has less than 300 months of overlap with its urban pair, it is dropped from the analysis. A weighting function is deÞned in the neighborhood of each urban station, which diminishes with distance and is zero outside a certain radius. An average trend is computed for the rural stations within that radius by fitting the model

where t is time in years, and B is the gradient. This trend is then compared with the OLS trend for the central urban station. The differences in the shapes of the distributions of the trends is a function of the number of stations that form the trend estimation.
Urban trends are trends for individual stations, while rural trends are the result of computing a trend for all the rural pairs taken as a complete ensemble.
Discussion
While urban warming is a real phenomenon, it is overweighted in land temperature reconstructions due to the oversampling of urban areas relative to their global land coverage. Rapid urbanization over the past three decades has likely contributed
to a modest warm bias in unhomogenized global land temperature reconstructions, with urban stations warming about ten percent faster than rural stations in the period from 1979 to 2010. Urban stations are warming faster than rural stations on average across all urbanity proxies, cutoffs, and spatial resolutions examined, though the underlying data is noisy and there are many individual cases of urban cooling. Our estimate for the bias due to UHI in the land record is on the order of 0.03C per decade for urban stations.

This result is consistent with both the expected sign of the effect and regional estimates covering the same time period (Zhou et al 2004) and differs from some recent work suggesting zero or negative UHI bias (Wickham et al, submitted).

Stricter urbanity proxies that result in a smaller set of rural stations show larger urban-rural differences in trend. The upper limit on UHI bias between rural and urban stations is on the order of 0.06 to 0.1C per decade. However, these cases are clearly problematic from the spatial coverage aspect, as the number of rural stations becomes vanishingly small when the most stringent filters are applied. Adopting cutoffs that define rural less strictly leads to more reasonable spatial coverage and an estimate of UHI bias in the record that converges on 0.02C to 0.04C per decade across the proxies. The station pair approach avoids this issue by limiting the analysis to areas with both rural and urban stations available, but has limited global coverage and excludes large areas in India and coastal China where rapid urbanization has been occurring in recent decades.
It is likely that homogenization will further reduce the observed UHI-related bias, as many urbanity biases are detectable through break-point analysis via comparison to surrounding rural stations. We are currently in the process of using the Pairwise Homogenization Algorithm (Menne and Williams 2009) on GHCN-Daily data to examine the effects in more detail. However, it remains to be seen to what degree UHI bias can be removed via homogenization in areas like coastal China and India where there are few rural stations and where station densities are not particularly high in the current version of GHCN-Daily. In any case, the acquisition of additional station data outside of urban areas in these parts of the world would likely be benefitial.
Acquiring more accurate station location data will allow us to use higher-resolution remote sensing tools to identify urban characteristics below the 5 km threshold, and better test effects of site-specifc vs. meso-scale characteristics on urban warming biases. In addition, validated site locations allows for more refinement in the definition of rural stations as a function of distance from urban cores of various sizes.
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"Alarmist scientists were incorrect then. So why would anyone be gullible enough to believe that alarmist scientists are correct now?"

This is an absolutly absurd statement to make. With this attitude, science can never and has never been right about anything because at any moment, why, they could discover something new. So why bother with it at all, right?
 
"Alarmist scientists were incorrect then. So why would anyone be gullible enough to believe that alarmist scientists are correct now?"

This is an absolutly absurd statement to make. With this attitude, science can never and has never been right about anything because at any moment, why, they could discover something new. So why bother with it at all, right?



It is not absurd. They were just as positive of their research findings about a soon to be occurring catastrophic change as the current alarmists are, but look how wrong they were.

Alarmist pseudo-scientists are the scientist versions of the shabby bearded homeless guys you see walking city street carrying signs saying The End Is Nigh!

They hold a belief and then they perform advocacy research attempting to prove their concrete belief. When someone does that they invariably shape their findings to support their already held concrete belief, and they manipulate data, they exclude data, they do not report everything they discover, they tell the world bits and pieces of what they discovered, making sure they create a scary sounding scenario.

In other words they do precisely what the emails in Climategate 1 and Climategate 2 have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the pseudo-scientist alarmists have been doing from day one and are continuing to do.

You also have to consider and factor in the massive funding and prestige that goes with being a pseudo-scientist alarmist. They receive obscenely massive grants and every burp that comes out of their mouths is put in print in every scientific journal and magazine and the uber-liberal mainstream media that is trying it's hardest to sell the myth to the public puts it in every newspaper, magazine and on every uber-liberal news channel broadcast. If the nonexistent problem, the myth, goes away, so do the obscenely massive grants and the fame and prestige. So the pseudo-scientist alarmists are doing everything they can, with the help of the uber-liberal mainstream media, and also governments like the U.S. government that has wasted sickeningly massive amounts of taxpayer money funding the voodoo research, and together they are doing everything within their power to keep a dead issue appear to still be alive.

The pseudo-scientist alarmist side has turned into the scientific version of; "Weekend at Bernie's" where they try to convince people that the dead myth isn't really dead.

The planet has been much warmer in the past than it is now, and it happened way before coal fired power plants and soccer moms driving SUVs. A few years back scientists who probed two kilometers (1.2 miles) through a Greenland glacier to recover the oldest plant DNA on record.

DNA of trees, plants and insects including butterflies and spiders from beneath the southern Greenland glacier was estimated to date to 450,000 to 900,000 years ago, according to the remnants retrieved from this long-vanished boreal forest.

That contrasts sharply with the prevailing view that a lush forest of this kind could only have existed in Greenland as recently as 2.4 million years ago, as had previously been claimed.

The samples suggest the temperature probably reached 10 degrees C (50 degrees Fahrenheit) in the summer and -17 C (1 F) in the winter.

They also indicated that during the last period between ice ages, 116,000-130,000 years ago, when temperatures were on average 5 C (9 F) higher than now, the glaciers on Greenland did not completely melt away.

So the planet was warmer, prior to any major influence by man, and glaciers did not completely melt away in the hotter temperatures.

But now with the planet cooling we're supposed to believe that man is responsible for nonexistent warming and that glaciers and polar ice caps that are expanding and or thickening will melt because of man.

This perfectly shows the pseudo-scientist alarmists work, this is them trying to show their so-called proof of man-made global warming and how and why it is happening and the direct connection man has to it and the key part man plays in it.

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And this is the pseudo-scientist alarmists when they were going to school when they were believed to be highly gifted young children.


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In other words they do precisely what the emails in Climategate 1 and Climategate 2 have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the pseudo-scientist alarmists have been doing from day one and are continuing to do.
They have not. Only in your conspiracy-addled brain do these selectively-edited, cherry picked quotes prove anything you claim it does.

You also have to consider and factor in the massive funding and prestige that goes with being a pseudo-scientist alarmist
If you understood science and scientists you would know how wrong you are. Scientists dream of being the one to overturn a major consensus. The most money and top prizes in science go to those that show everyone else was wrong. If the warming skeptics are correct, the science will reward them in due time. No one wants to make their life work based on perpetuating a myth even if they are 'uber-liberals.'
The planet has been much warmer in the past than it is now, and it happened way before coal fired power plants and soccer moms driving SUVs. A few years back scientists who probed two kilometers (1.2 miles) through a Greenland glacier to recover the oldest plant DNA on record.
Straw man. No one claims the earth has not been hotter in history.
So the planet was warmer, prior to any major influence by man, and glaciers did not completely melt away in the hotter temperatures.
No one is claiming man is the only influence on the climate. No one claimed that the glaciers have to melt away entirely in order to influence sea level and thermohaline circulation.

But now with the planet cooling we're supposed to believe that man is responsible for nonexistent warming and that glaciers and polar ice caps that are expanding and or thickening will melt because of man.
The only ones that think the planet is cooling are a small minority of people, mostly non-climatologists and have their very own political agenda to claim there is no warming. In fact even most AGW skeptics agree the planet is warming, they just disagree that man is having significant influence. The fact that you proscribe to the most radical and fringe ideas puts you squarely in the conspiracy theorist camp. Not only are you a non-climatologist that rejects the consensus because of ideology and not science, but you don't even agree with most of the real scientists that reject the consensus.
 
They have not. Only in your conspiracy-addled brain do these selectively-edited, cherry picked quotes prove anything you claim it does.

No, that is only how you and other members of the cult try to spin the facts to attempt to regain some shred of credibility.

If you understood science and scientists you would know how wrong you are. Scientists dream of being the one to overturn a major consensus. The most money and top prizes in science go to those that show everyone else was wrong. If the warming skeptics are correct, the science will reward them in due time. No one wants to make their life work based on perpetuating a myth even if they are 'uber-liberals.'


You attribute far too much nobility to some people based solely on your perception of what someone who chooses their line of work would be like. It is not as if no scientist has never sold their efforts to the highest bidder and then attempted to discover or create what they were paid to discover or create.



Straw man. No one claims the earth has not been hotter in history.

It is not a straw man argument. The point is valid. There have been higher levels of Co2 and periods of time, some rather extended periods of time, long before man could have ever done anything to begin to have even the slightest influence on the planet. It's all part of natural cycles, some that take place so many thousands of years apart that man cannot begin to comprehend them or predict them, and that is all that has been going on with the planet. But given the incredible degree of arrogance mankind has developed through the years some now want and need to take credit for cyclical changes that take place, even if they are negative ones.

Planetary alignment and orbits alter, they change, they are not always the same and when certain orbits and alignments occur, some only every many, many, many thousands of years, they cause alterations that result in climate changes, not only on earth but on other planets. There is evidence that there is planetary warming occurring on some planets in space. Oddly enough there are no coal fired power plants on those planets or soccer moms driving around in SUVs. What is causing their changes to occur is the same thing that is causing changes on earth to occur.


NASA Study Shows Sun Responsible for Planet Warming

By Bob Ellis

Click to enlarge (Credit: Robert A. Rohde)

From DailyTech, we have still more evidence that any warming occurring on planet earth is coming from natural sources and is cyclic in nature–NOT from the evil capitalism that Al Gore, the UN politicians at the IPCC and other socialists love to blame.From the article:

Now, a new research report from a surprising source may help to lay this skepticism to rest. A study from NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland looking at climate data over the past century has concluded that solar variation has made a significant impact on the Earth’s climate. The report concludes that evidence for climate changes based on solar radiation can be traced back as far as the Industrial Revolution.Past research has shown that the sun goes through eleven year cycles. At the cycle’s peak, solar activity occurring near sunspots is particularly intense, basking the Earth in solar heat. According to Robert Cahalan, a climatologist at the Goddard Space Flight Center, “Right now, we are in between major ice ages, in a period that has been called the Holocene.”


If our media, culture and a large portion of the “scientific” community were really honest, it would be the worshippers of the religion of anthropogenic global warming who are called “skeptics,” wouldn’t it?Because it is those pushing this silly theory that our puny SUVs and power plants are causing earth to warm up when the most obvious source of heat hangs over their head every single day.AGW simply doesn’t pass the smell test. Nor does it line up with the objective data.




Click to enlarge (Credit: Robert A. Rohde)

As this graph shows, solar activity has been cyclic in nature going back hundreds of years. Solar activity is also increasing, and we are coming out of the “Little Ice Age” of just a few hundred years ago. Of course the planet is warming–we’re coming out of a cold spell! The Maunder Minimum period of diminished solar activity coincided with the Little Ice Age when Europe and North America experienced bitterly cold winters.

About 1,000 years ago, Greenland was warm enough for the Vikings to colonize and grow vineyards. Today Greenland is almost entirely covered in ice. Tell me: is the earth warmer today than it was 1,000 years ago? Did they have SUVs and coal power plants in the days of the Vikings? This isn’t tough to figure out, people.The only thing tough about the global warming debate is trying to get the facts to match the socialist agenda of the AGW proponents. Try as they might, they just can’t do it, and more and more people are starting to see that.Things like cyclic solar data, warming occurring on other planets such as Mars and Jupiter just don’t line up with the suppositions of the AGW worshippers. They craft all manner of complex calculations and “what ifs,” but in the end the best they can do is say things like, “Well, we can’t prove it now, but by the time we can, it’ll be too late.”And we’re supposed to watch our electric bills go up 40% and see our economy devastated on what-ifs and a bunch of garbage that not only doesn’t match the evidence but doesn’t even pass the smell test?I’m not as gullible as these shysters seem to think I am, and I don’t believe most of the American people are either.



No one is claiming man is the only influence on the climate. No one claimed that the glaciers have to melt away entirely in order to influence sea level and thermohaline circulation.


But the cult pseudo-scientist alarmists do claim that man's influence is altering the planet's temperature, and to a degree that would in time, a fairly short period of time according to some, cause cataclysmic changes. What's more, the cult pseudo-scientist alarmists erroneously claim the issue is settled, that man-made, man-driven global warming is a fact, that it is without question occurring and that there is no debating or denying it.

While the U.S. Supreme Court is not a scientific group, it disagrees with that position. The justices of the United States Supreme Court became the world’s most august global warming sceptics. Not by virtue of their legal reasoning – the global warming case they decided turned on a technical legal issue — but in their surprising commentary. Global warming is by no means a settled issue, they made clear, suggesting it would be foolhardy to assume it was.

“The court, we caution, endorses no particular view of the complicated issues related to carbon-dioxide emissions and climate change,” reads the 8-0 decision, delivered by the court’s acclaimed liberal, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.




The only ones that think the planet is cooling are a small minority of people, mostly non-climatologists and have their very own political agenda to claim there is no warming.


That again is the spin being put out, the damage control attempt being made by the cult pseudo-scientist alarmists and rank and file members of the cult.

But if you want to bring political agendas into this, than you need to consider the political agenda of the U.N., several other governments who have invested deeply in the creation and advancement of the myth and of course the cult pseudo-scientist alarmists take for example Agenda 21: a global contract that bound governments around the world to a U.N. plan to change the way people "live, eat, learn and communicate," all in the name of "saving the earth" from mankind’s mistakes, particularly global warming. It is a a U.N.-crafted convergence of climate "science" and social "justice."

It is an attempted power grab by the U.N., a step towards one world government and a redistribution of wealth in a way that the U.N. and it's evil minions sees as being fair and just. And it's basis, it's justification, it's validation is the false religion of the cult of man-made global warming.


In fact even most AGW skeptics agree the planet is warming, they just disagree that man is having significant influence.

Clearly you read and accept only what fits what you want and need to believe and you ignore and reject all else.

Over the years many cult pseudo-scientist alarmists saw the light and have abandoned the myth and have since said it is false, that nothing is close to being settled and more and more have said it's the sun and planetary influences on it as cyclical orbits change and gravitational pressures change.


The fact that you proscribe to the most radical and fringe ideas puts you squarely in the conspiracy theorist camp. Not only are you a non-climatologist that rejects the consensus because of ideology and not science, but you don't even agree with most of the real scientists that reject the consensus.


That is a biased and inaccurate asessment. It is a perfect example of how the cult attempt to discredit and bash anyone who does not bow down before their false idol of man-made global warming. It relies on lies, like the claimed consensus that never was. It also ignores the existing ideology of the cult but then claims that taking a position based on ideology is not scientific.

In other words, it is a majorly hypocritical statement, but one that is commonly heard from the cult leaders and their minions.
 
November 27, 2011 [h=1]Scientists in Revolt against Global Warming[/h] By Karin McQuillan

Global warming became a cause to save life on earth before it had a chance to become good science. The belief that fossil fuel use is an emergency destroying our planet by CO[SUB]2[/SUB] emissions took over the media and political arena by storm. The issue was politicized so quickly that the normal scientific process was stunted. We have never had a full, honest national debate on either the science or government policy issues.


Everyone "knows" that global warming is true. The public has no idea of the number of scientists -- precisely one thousand at last count of a congressional committee -- who believe that global warming is benign and natural, and that it ended in 1998. We have not been informed of the costs to our economy of discouraging fossil fuel development and promoting alternatives. The public need to know the choices being made on their behalf, and to have a say in the matter. We are constantly told that the scientific and policy debate on global warming is over. It has just begun.


What is never discussed is this: the theory of global warming has catastrophic implications for our economy and national security. Case in point: Obama's recent decision to block the Keystone pipeline in order to placate global warming advocates. Key Democrat supporters fear the use of oil more than they care about losing jobs or our dangerous dependence on the Mideast for oil. The president delayed the pipeline by fiat, and the general public has had no say. (For the impact on our economy, see my article, "The Whole Country Can Be Rich.")


President Obama has spoken out passionately on the danger of developing oil and gas because of man-made global warming. "What we can be scientifically certain of is that our continued use of fossil fuels is pushing us to a point of no return. And unless we free ourselves from a dependence on these fossil fuels and chart a new course on energy in this country, we are condemning future generations to global catastrophe."


Obama calls for the debate to end. He cites hurricanes as proof: "dangerous weather patterns and devastating storms are abruptly putting an end to the long-running debate over whether or not climate change is real. Not only is it real -- it's here, and its effects are giving rise to a frighteningly new global phenomenon: the man-made natural disaster."


Happily, our president is wrong. The worst hurricanes were in 1926, the second-worst in 1900. The world's top hurricane experts say that there is no evidence that global warming affects storms. There is no such thing as a man-made hurricane. Storm cycles and long patterns of bad weather are entirely natural. Yet this good news is suppressed by our politicized media. We hear only one side.


More and more scientists are revolting against the global warming consensus enforced by government funding, the academic establishment, and media misrepresentation. They are saying that solar cycles and the complex systems of cloud formation have much more influence on our climate, and account for historical periods of warming and cooling much more accurately that a straight line graph of industrialization, CO[SUB]2[/SUB], and rising temperatures. They also point out that the rising temperatures that set off the global warming panic ended in 1998.


It takes a lot of courage. Scientists who report findings that contradict man-made global warming find their sources of funding cut, their jobs terminated, their careers stunted, and their reports blocked from important journals, and they are victimized by personal attacks. This is a consensus one associates with a Stalinist system, not science in the free world.


Here is how it has worked. The theory that entirely natural sun cycles best explain warming patterns emerged years ago, but the Danish scientists "soon found themselves vilified, marginalized and starved of funding, despite their impeccable scientific credentials." Physicists at Europe's most prestigious CERN laboratory tried to test the solar theory in 1996, and they, too, found their project blocked. This fall, the top scientific journal Nature published the first experimental proof -- by a team of 63 scientists at CERN -- that the largest factor in global warming is the sun, not humans. But the director of CERN forbade the implications of the experiment to be explained to the public: "I have asked the colleagues to present the results clearly, but not to interpret them. That would go immediately into the highly political arena of the climate change debate."


As more and more scientific evidence is published that debunks global warming, the enforced consensus is ending. The Royal Society, Britain's premier scientific institution -- whose previous president declared that "the debate on climate change is over" -- "is being forced to review its statements on climate change after a rebellion by members who question mankind's contribution to rising temperatures. ... The society has been accused by 43 of its Fellows of refusing to accept dissenting views on climate change and exaggerating the degree of certainty that man-made emissions are the main cause." Most of the rebels were retired, as one of them explained, "One of the reasons people like myself are willing to put our heads above the parapet is that our careers are not at risk from being labeled a denier or flat-Earther because we say the science is not settled. The bullying of people into silence has unfortunately been effective."


In America, Dr. Ivar Giaever, a Nobel Prize-winner in physics, resigned in protest from the American Physical Society this fall because of the Society's policy statement: "The evidence is incontrovertible: global warming is occurring." Dr. Giaver:


Incontrovertible is not a scientific word. Nothing is incontrovertible in science.


In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible?


The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this "warming" period.


In 2008, Prof. Giaever endorsed Barack Obama's candidacy, but he has since joined 100 scientists who wrote an open letter to Obama, declaring: "We maintain that the case for alarm regarding climate change is grossly overstated."


Do a Google search: you will find this letter reported in Britain and even India, but not in America.


Fifty-one thousand Canadian engineers, geologists, and geophysicists were recently polled by their professional organization. Sixty-eight percent of them disagree with the statement that "the debate on the scientific causes of recent climate change is settled." Only 26% attributed global warming to "human activity like burning fossil fuels." APEGGA's executive director Neil Windsor said, "We're not surprised at all. There is no clear consensus of scientists that we know of."


Dr. Joanne Simpson, one of the world's top weather scientists, expressed relief upon her retirement that she was finally free to speak "frankly" on global warming and announce that "as a scientist I remain skeptical." She says she remained silent for fear of personal attacks. Dr. Simpson was a pioneer in computer modeling and points out the obvious: computer models are not yet good enough to predict weather -- we cannot scientifically predict global climate trends.


Dr. Fred Singer, first director of the U.S. Weather Satellite Service, and physicist Dr. Seitz, past president of the APS, of Rockefeller University and of the National Academy of Science, argue that the computer models are fed questionable data and assumptions that determine the answers on global warming that the scientists expect to see.


Recently we've had a perfect example of the enforced global warming consensus falling apart. Berkeley Professor Muller did a media blitz with the findings of the latest analysis of all land temperature data, the BEST study, that he claimed once and for all proved that the planet is warming. Predictably, the Washington Post proclaimed that the BEST study had "settled the climate change debate" and showed that anyone who remained a skeptic was committing a "cynical fraud."


But within a week, Muller's lead co-author, Professor Curry, was interviewed in the British press (not reported in America), saying that the BEST data did the opposite: the global "temperature trend of the last decade is absolutely flat, with no increase at all - though the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere have carried on rising relentlessly."


This is nowhere near what the climate models were predicting," Prof Curry said. "Whatever it is that's going on here, it doesn't look like it's being dominated by CO[SUB]2[/SUB]." In fact, she added, in the wake of the unexpected global warming standstill, many climate scientists who had previously rejected sceptics' arguments were now taking them much more seriously. They were finally addressing questions such as the influence of clouds, natural temperature cycles and solar radiation - as they should have done, she said, a long time ago.


Other scientists jumped in, calling Muller's false claims to the media that BEST proved global warming "highly unethical." Professor Muller, confronted with dissent, caved and admitted that indeed, both ocean and land measurements show that global warming stopped increasing in 1998.


Media coverage on global warming has been criminally one-sided. The public doesn't know where the global warming theory came from in the first place. Answer: the U.N., not a scientific body. The threat of catastrophic warming was launched by the U.N. to promote international climate treaties that would transfer wealth from rich countries to developing countries. It was political from the beginning, with the conclusion assumed: the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (U.N. IPCC) was funded to report on how man was changing climate. Its scientific reports have been repeatedly corrected for misrepresentation and outright fraud.


This is important. Global warming theory did not come from a breakthrough in scientific research that enabled us to understand our climate. We still don't understand global climate any more than we understand the human brain or how to cure cancer. The science of global climate is in its infancy.


Yet the U.N. IPCC reports drive American policy. The EPA broke federal law requiring independent analysis and used the U.N. IPCC reports in its "endangerment" finding that justifies extreme regulatory actions. Senator Inhofe is apoplectic:


Global warming regulations imposed by the Obama-EPA under the Clean Air Act will cost American consumers $300 to $400 billion a year, significantly raise energy prices, and destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs. This is not to mention the 'absurd result' that EPA will need to hire 230,000 additional employees and spend an additional $21 billion to implement its [greenhouse gas] regime.


Former top scientists at the U.N. IPCC are protesting publicly against falsification of global warming data and misleading media reports. Dr. John Everett, for example, was the lead researcher on Fisheries, Polar Regions, Oceans and Coastal Zones at the IPCC and a former National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) senior manager, and he received an award while at NOAA for "accomplishments in assessing the impacts of climate change on global oceans and fisheries." Here is what he has to say on global warming:


It is time for a reality check. Warming is not a big deal and is not a bad thing. The oceans and coastal zones have been far warmer and colder than is projected in the present scenarios ... I would much rather have the present warm climate, and even further warming...No one knows whether the Earth is going to keep warming, or since reaching a peak in 1998, we are at the start of a cooling cycle that will last several decades or more.


That is why we must hear from all the best scientists, not only those who say fossil fuel use is dangerous. It is very important that we honestly discuss whether this theory is true and, if so, what reasonable steps we can afford to take to mitigate warming. If the theory is not based on solid science, we are free to develop our fossil fuel wealth responsibly and swiftly.


Instead, federal policies are based on global warming fears. Obama has adopted the California model. The Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006 has shed a million jobs in that state. California now has almost 12% unemployment, ranking 50[SUP]th[/SUP] in the nation.
The country could be following North Dakota, where oil development has led to a 3.5% unemployment rate, or Texas, which has created 40% of the jobs nationwide since the 2009 economic crash thanks to its robust energy sector. These are good jobs. An entry-level job on an oil rig pays $70,000 a year. A roughneck with a high school diploma earns $100,000 a year in Wyoming's Jonah Fields. Brazil's new offshore oil discoveries are predicted to create 2 million jobs there. We have almost three times more oil than Brazil.


When we treat oil and gas companies like pariahs, we threaten America's economic viability. For global warming alarmists who believe that man-made CO[SUB]2[/SUB] threatens life on earth, no cost is too high to fight it. They avert their eyes from the human suffering of people without jobs, with diminished life savings, limited future prospects, and looming national bankruptcy.


This is not all about idealism. There are crasser reasons of money and power for wanting to close the debate. Billions of dollars in federal grants and subsidies are spent to fight global warming. The cover of fighting to save the planet gives the government unlimited powers to intrude into private business and our individual homes. The government can reach its long arm right into your shower and control how much hot water you are allowed to use. In the words of MIT atmospheric scientist Dr. Lindzen, "[c]ontrolling carbon is kind of a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life."


Warming advocates persistently argue that we cannot afford to pause for a reality check; we must not ignore the possibility that global warming theory might be true. Limiting fossil fuels and promoting green energy are presented as a benign, a "why not be on the safe side," commonsense approach.


There is a lot of emotion and little common sense in this argument. If a diagnosis is based on a shaky and partly fraudulent theory, ignores much more convincing evidence, and has terrible negative side effects, you don't perform major surgery. We do not have to run around like Chicken Little on the off-chance that the sky may be falling.


There has been a high economic cost to limiting our oil and gas wealth, with much human anguish because of government-imposed economic contraction. Responsible government policy requires honest media coverage, unfettered scientific inquiry, and robust political debate. Our country cannot afford the costs of foolish energy policy based on politicized science and fear.


 
“On principle it is quite wrong to try founding a theory on observable magnitudes alone. In reality the very opposite happens. It is theory which decides what we can observe.”
Albert Einstein.

"Governments will lose elections over this issue. From a policy perspective it is a situation where you can only lose because any government will be faced with the reality that their policies don't match the rhetoric. Where does that leave policy-makers?
It leaves them looking very exposed. But that's the price you pay for exaggerating a risk that you actually cannot address. Politicians have cornered themselves. They have dug themselves into such a hole that there is no way out."
Dr Benny Peiser, Faculty of Science, Liverpool John Moores University, November 2006
"The (global warming) alarmists have confused cause and effect. As solar radiation warms the earth, CO2 is released into the atmosphere from the world's oceans."
Dr Habibullo Abdussamatov, Head of Space Research, Pulkovo Observatory, St Petersburg, January 2007.


"We have the highest solar activity we have had in 1,000 years. Evidence from ice cores show this happening long in the past."
Professor Henrik Svensmark, climate scientist, The Danish National Space Centre and author, The Chilling Stars: A new theory of climate change.

"Sun spot activity has reached a 1,000 year high."
Climate scientists affiliated to the Max Planck Institute, Gottingen, Germany.
"Sea levels have been rising steadily since the peak of the last Ice Age about 18,000 years ago. The total rise since then has been four hundred feet...For the last 5,000 years or so, the rate of rise has been about seven inches per century."
"The Medieval and Roman warmings, with their intervening cold periods, present a huge problem for the advocates of man-made global warming. If the Medieval and Roman occurred warmer than today - without greenhouse gases, what would be so unusual about modern times being warm as well?"
"The temperatures at the North and South Poles are lower now than they were in 1930. The Antarctic Peninsula, the finger of land pointing north towards Argentina (and the equator) has been getting warmer...The other 97 percent of Antarctic has been cooling since the mid-1960s."
S. Fred Singer, Distinguished Research Professor, George Mason University and Dennis Avery, Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute and co-authors Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1500 Years.
"Climate prediction is complex, with many uncertainties. The AASC recognizes climate prediction is an extremely difficult undertaking. For time scales of a decade or more, understanding the empirical accuracy of such prediction - called 'verification' - is simply impossible, since we have to wait a decade or more to assess the accuracy of the forecasts."
The American Association of State Climatologists.
"There is not such thing as consensus science. If it's a consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't a consensus. Period. The greatest scientists in the world are great precisely because they broke with the consensus."
Environmentalism has already killed somewhere between 10-30 million people since the 1970s."
Michael Crichton, Science writer and author 'State of Fear'.
"The positive aspects of global warming appear to have been downplayed."
A UK House of Lords report on the science of Kyoto
The European Union has established by fiat that a two-degree rise in global temperatures would be quite dangerous. However, this data is not scientifically sound."
Yuri Izrael, Vice President of the International Panel on Climate Change, the body responsible for the Kyoto Protocol.
Q. "Don't you believe that we're ruining our planet?"​
A. "Perhaps only Mr Al Gore may be saying something along these lines: a sane person can't"
Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic.

"There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact."
Mark Twain.
 
Read 'em and weep, cult members!


Only 52 scientists agreed to IPCC 2007 summary report linking human CO2 to global warming. In contrast, 650 scientists have publicly announced their disagreement with the theory of man-made global warming. In addition, 31,000 American scientists/researchers have signed the Oregon Petition stating their direct opposition to the Kyoto global warming agreement. Approximately 17,000 signers have a PhD or a M.S. (additional details of signers listed here).


(If you are interested in an analysis of IPCC scientists who support man-made global warming theory, visit here.)


Quote by John Dewey: “Scepticism: the mark and even the pose of the educated mind.”



Quote by Gerrit van der Lingen, scientist: “Being a scientist means being a skeptic.”



Quote by Madhav L. Khandekar, UN scientist, a retired Environment Canada scientist: "Unfortunately, the IPCC climate change documents do not provide an objective assessment of the earth's temperature trends and associated climate change….As one of the invited expert reviewers for the 2007 IPCC documents, I have pointed out the flawed review process used by the IPCC scientists in one of my letters. I have also pointed out in my letter that an increasing number of scientists are now questioning the hypothesis of Greenhouse gas induced warming of the earth's surface and suggesting a stronger impact of solar variability and large-scale atmospheric circulation patterns on the observed temperature increase than previously believed."



Quote by Nigel Lawson, former Chancellor of the Exchequer of UK: “In Europe, where climate change absolutism is at its strongest, the quasi-religion of greenery in general and the climate change issue in particular have filled the vacuum of organised religion, with reasoned questioning of its mantras regarded as a form of blasphemy.”



Quote by Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic: “As someone who lived under communism for most of my life I feel obliged to say that the biggest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and prosperity at the beginning of the 21st century is not communism or its various softer variants. Communism was replaced by the threat of ambitious environmentalism.”



Quote by Andrey Illarionov, economic adviser to Vladimir Putin: “Ideology on which the Kyoto Protocol is based, is a new form of totalitarian ideology, along with Marxism, Communism and socialism.”



Quote by Delgado Domingos, environmental scientist: “Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.”



Quote by Will Harper, Princeton University physicist, former Director of Energy Research at the Department of Energy: “I had the privilege of being fired by Al Gore, since I refused to go along with his alarmism....I have spent a long research career studying physics that is closely related to the greenhouse effect....Fears about man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science. The earth's climate is changing now, as it always has. There is no evidence that the changes differ in any qualitative way from those of the past.”



Quote by Nobel Prize Winner For Physics, Ivar Giaever:“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.”



Quote by Nobel Prize Winner For Chemistry, Kary Mullis:“Global warmers predict that global warming is coming, and our emissions are to blame. They do that to keep us worried about our role in the whole thing. If we aren't worried and guilty, we might not pay their salaries. It's that simple.



Quote by Martin Keeley, geology scientist: “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.”



Quote by Eduardo Tonni, paleontologist, Committee for Scientific Research, Argentina: “The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.”



Quote by George Kukla, climatologist, research scientist with the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University: "The only thing to worry about is the damage that can be done by worrying. Why are some scientists worried? Perhaps because they feel that to stop worrying may mean to stop being paid."



Quote by James Spann, American Meteorological Society-certified meteorologist: "Billions of dollars of grant money [over $50 billion] are flowing into the pockets of those on the man-made global warming bandwagon. No man-made global warming, the money dries up. This is big money, make no mistake about it. Always follow the money trail and it tells a story."



Quote by Tom McElmurry, meteorologist, former tornado forecaster in Severe Weather Service: “Governmental officials are currently casting trillions down huge rat hole to solve a problem which doesn’t exist....Packs of rats wait in that [rat] hole to reap trillions coming down it to fill advocates pockets....The money we are about to spend on drastically reducing carbon dioxide will line the pockets of the environmentalists....some politicians are standing in line to fill their pockets with kick back money for large grants to the environmental experts....In case you haven’t noticed, it is an expanding profit-making industry, growing in proportion to the horror warnings by government officials and former vice-presidents.”



Quote by Claude Culross, organic chemistry: “Dire predictions of catastrophe from that bottomless pit of disasters du jour, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, are based solely on computer models that amount to poorly crafted mathematical opinions, not experimental proof....There is no proof that man-made carbon dioxide causes additional warming, or that carbon-dioxide reduction would reduce warming.”



Quote by Ritesh Arya, geologist, specializes in hydrogeology and groundwater resources in the Himalayas: “There is urgent need to put the phenomenon [global warming], which had not been triggered off suddenly, in the right perspective....There is a hype of global warming created by western mass media and there is a need to redefine the whole concept.”



Quote by John Takeuchi, meteorologist: “The atmosphere has periodic warming and cooling cycles. The sun is the primary source of energy impacting the earth's surface. That energy heats the land and the seas, which then warm the air above them. Water vapor and other gases in the atmosphere also affect temperature....Oceans are the main repository for CO2. They release CO2 as their temperature rises - just like your beer. This strongly suggests that warming oceans - heated by the sun - are a major contributor to CO2 in the atmosphere.”



Quote by Peter Dailey, director of atmospheric science, AIR Worldwide: “There is now a near consensus that global air temperatures are increasing, however, there is no consensus on how this has affected the temperature of the world’s oceans, and in particular in the Atlantic Ocean, or how much of the recent warming trend is attributable to man’s activities....For the layman, there is sometimes a tendency to regard every new ‘discovery’ or scientific finding from the latest published paper as an inviolate fact....In reality, rarely is there ever a last and final word in studies of complex systems such as earth’s environment. Rather, science is a dynamic process based on the scientific method in which researchers test hypotheses leading to new discoveries, but also reexamine earlier theories and try to improve, build upon, or extend them.”



Quote by Mark Paquette, meteorologist, Accuweather: “The earth's climate is ridiculously complicated, and carbon dioxide is not the only thing that influences the climate that is changing. In fact, probably EVERYTHING in the earth's climate system changes at one time or another. So, earth's changing climate can not be entirely attributed to carbon dioxide levels rising.”



Quote by Ian McQueen, chemical engineer: "Carbon dioxide is not the bogeyman - there are other causes that are much more likely to be causing climate change, to the extent that it has changed....Carbon dioxide does have a small warming effect, McQueen said, but 32 per cent of the first few molecules do the majority of the warming. The carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere, he said, is currently at 380 parts per million; if that were upped to 560 parts per million, Earth's temperature would only rise about 0.3 degrees.”



Quote by Art Raiche, former chief research scientist, Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization: “The suppression of scientific evidence that contradicts the causal link between human-generated CO2 and climate has been of great concern to ethical scientists both here in Australia and around the world....The eco-hysteria that leads the Greens, as well as the left-leaning media, to attack any person who attempts to publish science that contradicts their beliefs is a gross example of the dangerous doctrine that the end justifies the means.”



Quote by Kevin Warwick, professor of cybernetics-University of Reading, England, research in artificial intelligence, control, robotics: “I am afraid that I do not hold with the theory of ‘global warming’ – there will always be climate change....Big thing here is – do we know what we are doing that is bringing about climate change? At present the answer to this is NO.”



Quote by Theodore G. Pavlopoulos, retired U.S. Navy physicist and chemist, New York Academy of Sciences: “CO2 in air has been branded as the culprit for causing the green house effect, causing global warming. However, regularly omitted is another important green house gas also present in air and in much higher concentration. It is water vapor. In the air, it absorbs infrared radiation (heat) more strongly than CO2....The concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is considerable lower than that of water vapor; it is just a few percent. Consequently, doubling the CO2 concentration would not significantly increase the combined absorption of the two green house gases of water vapor and CO2.”



Quote by Muriel Newman, mathematician, a member of the Northland Conservation Board: “Around the world, as controversy over climate change continues to grow, it remains very clear that contrary to what the politicians tell us, not only is there is no consensus of scientific thought on this matter, but the science is certainly not settled. In fact, in a bizarre twist of fate, at a time when advocates of man-made global warming continue to push government policies to restrict energy use and the burning of fossil fuels in order to prevent ‘catastrophic’ warming, the world continues to cool....That is leading to increasing scepticism that the call to sacrifice living standards in order to “save the planet” is just political spin designed to persuade the public to accept green taxes.”


Quote by Dennis Hollars, astrophysicist: "What I'd do with the IPCC report is to put it in the trash can because that's all it's worth....carbon dioxide was an insignificant component of the earth's atmosphere and that, rather than being the purveyor of doom it is currently viewed as today, it is needed in order for plants to grow....'Mars' atmosphere is about 95 percent CO2 and has no global warming.”



Quote by Larry Bell, University of Houston,one of designers of International Space Station, has forthcoming book, "Climate
Hysteria": “Cause and effect relationships between atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations from all sources and global temperatures are inconclusive. Although carbon dioxide levels have generally been observed to increase during warm periods and fall during colder ones, the temperature changes typically lead rather than follow carbon dioxide changes.”



Quote by W.J. “Bill” Collins, professor, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences-James Cook University: “As the climate change debate moves from the scientific to the political, it is important to stay with the facts. The bottom line is that humans cannot prevent global warming. Therefore, we should not be forced into emissions trading schemes, or any other scheme that sacrifices Australia’s economic advantage and standard of living for the wrong reasons....Sure, let us try to lessen our environmental impact and develop a sustainable economy, but we should not be carried away by misconceptions about what is driving climate change. It’s with the Earth itself.”



Quote by John Williams, agricultural scientist, researcher, author, and educator, University of Melbourne: “There is no proof that carbon dioxide is causing or precedes global warming....All indications are that the minor warming cycle finished in 2001 and that Arctic ice melting is related to cyclical orbit-tilt-axis changes in earth’s angle to the sun.”



Quote by Roger W. Cohen, physics, American Physical Society fellow: “I retired four years ago, and at the time of my retirement I was well convinced, as were most technically trained people, that the IPCC's case for Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) is very tight. However, upon taking the time to get into the details of the science, I was appalled at how flimsy the case really is....I was also appalled at the behavior of many of those who helped produce the IPCC reports and by many of those who promote it. In particular I am referring to the arrogance; the activities aimed at shutting down debate; the outright fabrications; the mindless defense of bogus science, and the politicization of the IPCC process and the science process itself.”



Quote by Sherwood Thoele, analytical chemist and mathematician: “I submit that there is no man-made global cooling/warming, that there is no study or research data that makes a good argument to that effect when carefully examined objectively and that the Earth has many different and wide ranging cycles that man cannot control, no matter how much he would like to.”



Quote by Michael J. Myers, analytical chemist, specializes in spectroscopy and atmospheric sensing: “I am troubled by the lack of common sense regarding carbon dioxide emissions. Our greatest greenhouse gas is water. Atmospheric spectroscopy reveals why water has a 95 percent and CO2 a 3.6 percent contribution to the ‘greenhouse effect.’ Carbon dioxide emissions worldwide each year total 3.2 billion tons. That equals about 0.0168 percent of the atmosphere's CO2 concentration of about 19 trillion tons. This results in a 0.00064 percent increase in the absorption of the sun's radiation. This is an insignificantly small number.”



Quote by Ed Rademacher, chemical engineer: “Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant and, in fact, is a desired....To date, global warming alarmists have not come close to providing any valid scientific data that proves humans are the sole source of changes in so-called global average temperatures. Quite simply, correlation between the carbon dioxide levels and the global average temperatures does not prove a causal relationship.”



Quote by Robert A. Perkins, professor of civil and environmental engineering at the University of Alaska, registered civil engineer has 30 years work in arctic and sub-arctic: “All the ‘science’ that you read about global warming is based on models, not observed facts. Here are some reasons to doubt the models: Expert statistician Akaike proved that the more parameters a model needs to fit the historical data, the less certain the model will predict the future....All the climate models are incredibly complex, hence ‘over-parameterized.’ The climate models, however, do not even fit the present data, at least in the Arctic....Finally, none of the published models that ‘blame’ human activity for the warming trend account for the known historical variations in global climate.”


Quote by Gerhard Lobert, physicist, Recipient of The Needle of Honor of German Aeronautics: “As the glaciological and tree ring evidence shows, climate change is a natural phenomenon that has occurred many times in the past, both with the magnitude as well as with the time rate of the temperature change that have occurred in the recent decades.”



Quote by Norm Kalmanovitch, geophysicist:“There is zero warming possible from further increases in CO2....The temperature record shows that the global temperature has been increasing naturally at a rate of about 0.5°C/century since the Little Ice Age. The forcing parameter is based on the full measured 0.6°C/century without subtracting the natural warming of 0.5°C/century giving a forcing parameter that is 6 times larger than can be attributed to the measured increase in CO2....Far less obvious, but the major fatal flaw of the forcing parameter is that it is based on an observation of temperature and CO2 concentration without taking into account the actual physical properties of CO2 and its limited effect on thermal radiation as defined by quantum physics.”



Quote by David Stockwell, ecological modeler, published research articles on climate change, authored book about “niche modeling": “It would be recognized that the IPCC is just another review, and an unstructured and biased one at that. Its main in-scope goal is to find a human influence on climate, and the range of reasons for climate change are out-of-scope, creating a systematic bias against natural explanations for climate change. I think climate models are inadequately validated, confidence in the skill of models to forecast global warming is vastly exaggerated, and current skill is not enough to serve useful purposes.”



Quote by Tom Kondis, chemist, a consultant with practical experience in absorption and emission spectroscopy: “To support their argument, advocates of man-made global warming have intermingled elements of greenhouse activity and infrared absorption to promote the image that carbon dioxide traps heat near earth's surface like molecular greenhouses insulating our atmosphere. Their imagery, however, is seriously flawed....The fictitious ‘trapped heat’ property, which they aggressively promote with a dishonest ‘greenhouse gas’ metaphor, is based on their misrepresentation of natural absorption and emission energy transfer processes and disregard of two fundamental laws of physics.”



Quote by Bob Ashworth, chemical engineer, 16 U.S. patents, has written 55 technical papers, American Geophysical Union, authored a 2008 technical analysis of global warming: “The lesson to the world here is, when it comes to science, never blindly accept an explanation from a politician or scientists who have turned political for their own private gain. Taxing carbon will have absolutely no beneficial effect on our climate, will hurt the economies of the world, and will be harmful to the production of food because less carbon dioxide means reduced plant growth.”



Quote by Greg Benson, earth scientist, geologic study/geologic modeling:“The concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide has changed greatly since fossilized life began on Earth nearly 600 million years ago. In fact, there is only 1/19 as much CO2 in the air today as there was 520 million years ago. That high CO2 was hardly the recipe for disaster.”



Quote by Dave Dahl, chief meteorologist of Minnesota’s ABC Channel 5: “Many peer-reviewed scientific papers are now looking at the real possibility that the sun may play the main role in climate variation here on earth....Recent studies show that the unusually ‘quiet’ sun may be one of the reasons for the unusually cold winter that was experienced across much of the Northern Hemisphere. An extremely low number of solar flares and sunspots may be linked to the current cooling trend globally.”



Quote by Dan Pangburn, mechanical engineer, author of a climate research paper: “For most of earth’s history carbon dioxide level has been several times higher than the present....The conclusion from all this is that carbon dioxide change does NOT cause significant climate change. Actions to control the amount of non-condensing greenhouse gases that are added to the atmosphere are based on the mistaken assumption that global warming was caused by human activity.”



Quote by Colin Robinson, founder of the Department of Economics- University of Surrey UK, Fellow of the Royal Statistical Society: “In an echo of earlier times, the climate change prophets have in recent years tried to silence counter views and suppress dissent. August members of the Royal Society, a body once noted for its cultivation of debate in science, are now leaders of the ‘science is settled’ camp: the only debate they consider to be legitimate is about choice among the different forms of the centralized action they believe is required to deal with the problems they foresee.”



Quote by Geoffrey Kearsley, geographer, environmental communication-University of Otago, director of Wilderness Research Foundation: “It is said that we are now beyond the science and that the science of global warming has been finalized or determined and that all scientists agree. Skeptics and deniers are simply cynical pawns in the pockets of the big oil companies. This is unfortunate, to say the least. Science is rarely determined or finalized; science evolves and the huge complexity of climate science will certainly continue to evolve in the light of new facts, new experiences and new understandings.”


Quote by Phil Chapman, an astronautical engineer and the first Australian to become a NASA astronaut, staff physicist at MIT: “The bleak truth is that, under normal conditions, most of North America and Europe are buried under about 1.5km of ice. This bitterly frigid climate is interrupted occasionally by brief warm interglacials, typically lasting less than 10,000 years. The interglacial we have enjoyed throughout recorded human history, called the Holocene, began 11,000 years ago, so the ice is overdue,” Chapman wrote. “All those urging action to curb global warming need to take off the blinkers and give some thought to what we should do if we are facing global cooling instead."



Quote by Jeffrey A. Glassman, physicist and engineer, former division Chief Scientist - Hughes Aircraft Company, expert modeler of microwave and millimeter wave propagation in the atmosphere: “CO2 concentration is a response to the proxy temperature in the Vostok ice core data, not a cause....The Vostok data support an entirely new model. Atmospheric CO2 is absorbed by the oceans. Fires, volcanoes, and now man deposit CO2 into the atmosphere, but those effects are transient. What exists in steady state is CO2 perpetually pumped into the atmosphere by the oceans....Atmospheric CO2 is a dynamic stream, from the warm ocean and back into the cool ocean. Public policy represented by the Kyoto Accords and the efforts to reduce CO2 emissions should be scrapped as wasteful, unjustified, and futile.”



Quote by Jon Hartzler, retired science professor St. Cloud State University: “We are left with what we call correlations, like increasing carbon dioxide and increasing temperature. This is not proof, only suggestive in science....The Chinese laugh at the Kyoto Protocol and the ‘civilized’ world trying to fix ‘global warming.’ Our puny little effort (but very costly) when China refuses and puts their economy first makes us seem insignificant.”



Quote by Mike Thompson, Chief Meteorologist of Kansas City news station, former U.S. Navy meteorologist: "It is easier to silence scientific dissent by utilizing the politics of personal destruction, than to actually debate them on the merits of their arguments. That should tell you something about the global warming debate...there is none right now....it's either you believe, or you are to be discredited."


Quote by Arnold Kling, economist, formerly of the Federal Reserve Board: “I am worried about climate change. In one respect, I may be more worried than other people. I am worried because I have very little confidence that we know what is causing it....One of my fears is that we could reduce carbon emissions by some drastic amount, only to discover that--oops--it turns out that climate change is being caused by something else.”



Quote by Klaus P. Heiss, formerly of Princeton University and Mathematica, space engineer, NASA, the US Atomic Energy Commission, Office of Naval Research, International Astronautics Academy: “The 20th Century increased the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere continuously. Man-made CO2 grew exponentially; however, global temperatures fell between 1940 and 1975, during the time span as the global industrial production almost exploded....The entire atmospheric carbon dioxide, of which man-made CO2 is only a fraction of, is not to blame for global warming....Carbon dioxide is not responsible for the warming of the global climate over the last 150 years. But what then? For more than 90 percent are changes in the Earth-Sun relationship to the climate fluctuations. One is the sun's activities themselves, such as the recently discovered 22-year cycles occur and sunspots.”



Quote by Patrick Frank, chemist, author of more than 50 peer-reviewed articles: “So the bottom line is this: When it comes to future climate, no one knows what they’re talking about. No one. Not the IPCC nor its scientists, not the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, not the NRDC or National Geographic, not the U.S. congressional House leadership, not me, not you, and certainly not Mr. Albert Gore.”



Quote by Jonathan DuHamel, geologist: “I am a geologist familiar with the scientific literature on climate change, but I have yet to see any proof or compelling evidence supporting the assertion that human carbon-dioxide emissions have produced measurable temperature change,”...The current warm period is well within natural variations.”



Quote by Ferdinand Engelbeen, chemist and process engineer: “Why ‘skeptical’? As I have some experience with models, be it in chemical processes, not climate, I know how difficult it is to even make a model of a simple process where most, if not all, physico-chemical parameters and equations are exactly known....To make a climate model, where a lot of parameters and reactions are not even known to any accuracy, for me seems a little bit overblown. And to speak of any predictive power of such models, which are hardly validated, is as scientific as looking into a crystal ball.”



Quote by Kevin Lemanowicz, Chief Meteorologist of broadcast station in Massachussetts: "Did you know that if the greenhouse effect didn't exist, life on this planet would be frozen? Further, I'm sure you remember from grade-school science that carbon dioxide is vital for life. Plants need it, and, in turn, give us oxygen. No CO2 means no plants, which means little oxygen for us. Certainly not enough to live on. Why, then, is CO2 called "pollution"? Is it really bad for us?"



Quote by Glenn Speck, chemist, Isotek Environmental Lab, 35 years testing air, water, fuel, and soil for chemicals, including CO2: “The public has been repeatedly misled that there is a scientific consensus on global warming. Totally false. Unfortunately, man-made climate change, or anthropogenic global warming as it’s more commonly known, has become a political issue rather than a scientific one.”


Quote by John Lott, Jr., economics, senior research scientist, University of Maryland: “Are global temperatures rising? Surely, they were rising from the late 1970s to 1998, but ‘there has been no net global warming since 1998.’ Indeed, the more recent numbers show that there is now evidence of significant cooling [...] Mankind is responsible for just a fraction of one percent of the effect from greenhouse gases, and greenhouse gases are not responsible for most of what causes warming (e.g., the Sun).”



Quote by William Hunt, research scientist National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, served as a wildlife biologist and a geologist: “Scientists and activists alike have jumped on the [global warming] bandwagon. It’s become a fad, a trend, a wave of enthusiasm and the scientists are going along with the fad to get research grants and the media limelight....The facts, such as we can observe and calculate them, do not support the idea of man-made global warming. Natural processes completely eclipse anything that man can accomplish- a minor rainstorm expends more energy than a large nuclear explosive releases and the lowest category of hurricane expends more energy than all of the nuclear weapons ever produced in a short time.”



Quote by Al Lipson, meteorologist former lead forecaster at the Weather Channel and Accuweather: “[Promoters of climate fear] want to make money. Billions of dollars are being funneled into research...I feel mans’ influence on climate is a micro influence Nature has a tendency to balance itself on a macro scale....Extreme weather events happen. Quit spinning research to foster monetary and political agendas. That's dishonest science.”



Quote by Peter Friedman, professor mechanical engineering-University of Massachusetts, member of the American Geophysical Union: “Several respected climate scientists have told me that there would be even more vocal skeptics if they were not afraid of losing funding, much of which is controlled by politically correct organizations.”



Quote by R. W. Bradnock, scientist, former head of geography at the School of Oriental and African Studies, Senior Visiting Research Fellow at King’s College London, field-based research on sea level and environmental change: “In my own narrow area of research, I know that many of the claims about the impact of ‘global warming’ in Bangladesh, for example, are completely unfounded. There is no evidence that flooding has increased at all in recent years. Drought and excessive rainfall are the nature of the monsoon system. Agricultural production, far from being decimated by worsening floods over the last twenty years, has nearly doubled.”



Quote by Frederick Seitz, past president, U.S. National Academy of Sciences: “It is one thing to impose drastic measures and harsh economic penalties when an environmental problem is clear-cut and severe....It is foolish to do so when the problem is largely hypothetical and not substantiated by observations....we do not currently have any convincing evidence or observations of significant climate change from other than natural causes.”


Quote by Topper Shutt, chief meterologist, Washington D.C. Channel 9: “I try and remind our viewers that climate is always in a state of flux and yes, the world has warmed over the last 25 years but claiming that Katrina is a product of global warming is absurd. We have had much stronger hurricanes hit the United States in the past, the Labor Day or Keys hurricane of 1935 and Camille in 1969 to name just two. There is much more development now on our shores.”



Quote by Terry Wimberley, professor of Ecological Studies of Florida Gulf Coast University, Division of Marine Sciences and Ecological Sciences: “Scientists do not dispel the problem of global warming -- that is real -- but rather the CO2 theory of global warming, which unfortunately is not verified by geological and climate records going back thousands of years or by observed fact. The CO2 theory of climate change is based upon a computer simulation model and flawed data that has been widely criticized in scientific literature."



Quote by Francis T. Manns, geologist, manages Artesian Geological Research: “As a stratigrapher/paleogeographer, I have been aware throughout my career of the wide variations in the climate of Earth as recorded in the rocks. Climate change is the norm for the planet....I am unaware of any CO2 research that demonstrates a temperature anomaly that corresponds to CO2 flux in the atmosphere. On the contrary, everything I read from the refereed side of science shows CO2 to trail warming."



Quote by William L. Wells, chemist/chemical engineer, adjunct professor of chemistry-Murray State University: "Many in Congress promoting these measures for CO2 control mandates fail to appreciate that the atmosphere is global, hence emissions must be considered world-wide. One source indicates that China has plans to add 500 coal-fired plants in the next decade, while India is right behind with 200 plants on the drawing board. Restricting U.S. anthropogenic emissions, only a small part of the CO2 released into the environment, is a way of cutting off our economic noses to spite our faces....Without global reductions there is very little that the US can do to impact CO2 levels in the atmosphere, besides, of course, political posturing."



Quote by Fred W. Decker, professor of Meteorology-Oregon State University: "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”



Quote by Viv Forbes, soil scientist and geologist, chairman-Australian based The Carbon Sense Coalition: “There is no evidence that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is driving surface temperature, and there is plenty of evidence to show that current levels of temperature and carbon dioxide are neither extreme nor of concern....It is unbelievable that many in politics and the media are whipping up public hysteria about ‘global warming’ when the best evidence suggests that for the 100 years ending in the year 2000, the century of coal, steel, electricity, the internal combustion engine, jet planes, two world wars and a population explosion, the average surface temperature rose by only 0.6 deg, and there has been NO increase in temperature since 1998."



Quote by Vincent U. Muirhead, professor emeritus of aerospace engineering, researched gas dynamics, University of Kansas: “The new green left (environmentalist) propaganda reminds me of the old red left (communist) propaganda. The dirty word is now carbon rather than capitalism. The game is simply to intrude and control everything.”



Quote by Louis A.G. Hissink, field geologist, editor of The Australian Institute of Geoscientists Newsletter: “Recent discoveries by NASA in the area of space exploration show that the earth is connected to the sun electromagnetically where tens of millions of amperes of electric current are routinely measured during polar aurora displays by satellites - this enormous source of energy, and thus heat, is completely ignored as a factor affecting the earth's thermal balance in global climate models. It is this electromagnetic connection that underpins the solar factor that modulates the earth's climate.”



Quote by Rosa Compagnucci, author of two IPCC reports in 2001, researcher with the National Science and Technology Commission, Department of Atmosphere Sciences - University of Buenos Aires: "Is global warming something unusual, say, the last two thousand years?...There was a global warming in medieval times, during the years between 800 and 1300. And that made Greenland, now covered with ice, christened with a name [by the Vikings] that refers to land green: 'Greenland.’”



Quote by Karl Bohnak, meteorologist: “Water vapor accounts for about 95 percent of earth’s natural ‘greenhouse’ effect. Carbon dioxide gets all the attention because that is what is released in the burning of fossil fuels. Yet it accounts for less than 4 percent of the total greenhouse effect. For the anthropogenic global warming argument to work, water vapor must increase along with CO2. CO2’s contribution - natural and man-made - is just not enough to raise global temperatures as much as climate models predict.”



Quote by David Gee, geologist, chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress: “So my question is extremely simple, we know temperature goes up and down. We know there is tremendous amount of natural variations, but for how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?"



Quote by Leighton Steward, geologist, twice chaired the Audubon Nature Institute and is currently the chairman of the Institute for the study of Earth and Man at SMU: “We [on earth] are at one of the lowest points of CO2 levels today....CO2’s ability to trap heat declines rapidly, logarithmically, and reaches a point of significantly reduced future effect explaining why correlations with CO2 don’t hold. A far more consistent and significant correlation exists between the planet’s temperature and the output of energy from the sun."



Quote by Wayne Hocking, physics professor, University of Western Ontario, who heads the Atmospheric Dynamics Group: “For this to be effective, we need to be there for 20, 30, 40 years, have a long-term data set and then we can start to make useful predictions....researchers do not know enough about the atmospheric changes and how they influence each other to draw any conclusions about global warming. We know there is so much complexity involved, we want to tread more cautiously.”



Quote by Chris Landsea, former IPCC scientist: “I personally cannot in good faith continue to contribute to a process [IPCC process] that I view as both being motivated by pre-conceived agendas and being scientifically unsound.”



Quote by Roger Pielke Sr., climatologist, former NOAA researcher, former professor Colorado State: “The same individuals who are doing primary research in the role of humans on the climate system are then permitted to lead the [IPCC] assessment! There should be an outcry on this obvious conflict of interest, but to date either few recognize this conflict, or see that since the recommendations of the IPCC fit their policy and political agenda, they chose to ignore this conflict. In either case, scientific rigor has been sacrificed and poor policy and political decisions will inevitably follow.”



Quote by Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic: “The climate change debate is basically not about science; it is about ideology. It is not about global temperature; it is about the concept of human society. It is not about nature or scientific ecology; it is about environmentalism, about one — recently born — dirigistic and collectivistic ideology, which goes against freedom and free markets.”


Quote by Jack Schmitt, geology scientist and U.S. astronaut: “As a geologist, I love Earth observations, but it is ridiculous to tie this objective to a 'consensus' that humans are causing global warming when human experience, geologic data and history, and current cooling can argue otherwise. 'Consensus,' as many have said, merely represents the absence of definitive science. You know as well as I, the 'global warming scare' is being used as a political tool to increase government control over American lives, incomes and decision making.”



Quote by Freeman Dyson, theoretical physicist and mathematician: “The models solve the equations of fluid dynamics, and they do a very good job of describing the fluid motions of the atmosphere and the oceans. They do a very poor job of describing the clouds, the dust, the chemistry and the biology of fields and farms and forests. They do not begin to describe the real world that we live in. The real world is muddy and messy and full of things that we do not yet understand. It is much easier for a scientist to sit in an air-conditioned building and run computer models, than to put on winter clothes and measure what is really happening outside in the swamps and the clouds. That is why the climate model experts end up believing their own models.”



Quote by Peter Friedman, professor mechanical engineering-University of Massachusetts, member of the American Geophysical Union: “The IPCC ‘policy summaries,’ written by a small group of their political operatives, frequently contradict the work of the scientists that prepare the scientific assessments. Even worse, some of the wording in the science portions has been changed by policy makers after the scientists have approved the conclusions.”



Quote by Joanne Simpson, former elite NASA climate scientist: “Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.”



Quote by John S. Theon, retired Chief of the Climate Processes Research Program at NASA Headquarters: “Climate models are useless....My own belief concerning anthropogenic climate change is that the models do not realistically simulate the climate system because there are many very important sub-grid scale processes that the models either replicate poorly or completely omit...Furthermore, some scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results. In doing so, they neither explain what they have modified in the observations, nor explain how they did it.”


Quote by Kiminori Itoh, member of IPCC process, award-winning environmental physical chemist: "Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.”


Quote by Geoffrey Kearsley, geographer, environmental communication-University of Otago, director of Wilderness Research Foundation: "Water vapor is the biggest greenhouse gas by a huge factor. The link between CO2 and temperature change is erratic; often, carbon follows heat rather than the uncritical popular perception that heat is induced by carbon. The oceans are a vast reservoir of dissolved CO2; as they warm, they release it and reabsorb it as they cool. Which causes what? There is much more yet to learn.”



Quote by Stanley Goldenberg, U.S. Government atmospheric and hurricane scientist : “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.”



Quote by Hajo Smit, meteorologist and former IPCC member: “Gore [Al] prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp [changed to skeptic camp]…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.”



Quote by Mark L. Campbell, professor of chemistry at the U.S. Naval Academy: "...consensus in science is an oxymoron. From Galileo to Einstein, one scientist with proof is more convincing than thousands of other scientists who believe something to be true. And I don't even grant that there is a consensus among scientists; it's just that the press only promotes the global warming alarmists and ignores or minimizes those of us who are skeptical. To many of us, there is no convincing evidence that carbon dioxide produced by humans has any influence on the Earth's climate."


Quoted by Peter Stilbs, physical chemist, chairs climate seminar Department of Physical Chemistry-Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm: “There is no strong evidence to prove significant human influence on climate on a global basis. The global cooling trend from 1940 to 1970 is inconsistent with models based on anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions. There is no reliable evidence to support that the 20th century was the warmest in the last 1000 years."



Quote by William Hunt, research scientist National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, served as a wildlife biologist and a geologist: “The problem with computer [climate] modeling is that only a tiny percentage of the literally millions of variables involved can be written into a program. It’s currently impossible for us to accurately model Earth’s climate and we are not aware of all of the variables yet.”



Quote by Terry Wimberley, professor of Ecological Studies of Florida Gulf Coast University, Division of Marine Sciences and Ecological Sciences: “More important [than CO2] is the interaction of solar activity (solar winds) with penetrating cosmic rays into the earth’s atmosphere. When cosmic ray activity is great a large volume of rays penetrate the earth's lower atmosphere and contribute to cloud formation and cool the earth. However, when there is a lot of solar activity, solar winds tend to blow away just enough of the cosmic rays to thwart cloud formation at the lower levels resulting in fewer clouds and global warming. This phenomenon can be documented over hundreds if not thousands of years - well before humans were able to affect atmosphere.”



Quote by Jonathan DuHamel, geologist: “CO2 is a minor player in the total system, and human CO2 emissions are insignificant compared to total natural greenhouse gas emissions. Therefore, lowering human CO2 emissions will have no measurable effect on climate, and continued CO2 emissions will have little or no effect on future temperature....While controlling CO2 emissions from burning fossil fuels may have some beneficial effects on air quality, it will have no measurable effect on climate, but great detrimental effects on the economy and our standard of living.”



Quote by Mike Thompson, Chief Meteorologist of Kansas City news station, former U.S. Navy meteorologist: "It's a slow process, but it is scary, because if someone can control your energy sources, they can control you. We are already being told what light bulbs we can and cannot use...through legislation. We are being forced to fund research into alternative energies sources that are inefficient, and that cause the price of food, energy, and everything else to rise...through legislation...rather than allow free enterprise to allocate funds to those energy sources that will survive through good old American innovation!"



Quote by Francis T. Manns, geologist, manages Artesian Geological Research: Manns disputes the CO2 caused ocean acidification fears. “Ocean pH is not governed by physico-chemical rules. Marine organisms control their calcium carbonate properties organically behind membranes....Objective scientists realize that coral, foraminifera and shellfish have deep mechanism that have evolved over 100s of millions of years as CO2 has fluctuated far wider than we see in the atmosphere today."



Quote by Viv Forbes, soil scientist and geologist, chairman-Australian based The Carbon Sense Coalition: “The output of a complex computer simulation of the atmosphere is not ‘evidence’. It is a fluttering flag of forecasts, hung on a slim flagpole of theory, resting on a leaky raft of assumptions, which is drifting without the rudder of evidence, in cross currents of ideology emotion and bias, on the wide deep and restless ocean of the unknown.”



Quote by Randy Cerveny, oversees Arizona State University meteorology program; named to key post UN’s World Meteorological Organization for developing a global weather archive for UN: "I don't think [global warming] is going to be catastrophic...our grandkids are going to have a lot better weather information than we did, and they will be able to answer a lot of the questions we're just in the process of asking."



Quote by Paul Berenson, physicist, former executive secretary of the Defense Science Board, U.S. Department of Defense: “The analytical models used to predict higher atmospheric CO2 content and temperature have not been validated, and do not predict the measured values from the last 200 years; e.g., the cooling of roughly 1 degree C from about 1940 to 1975. They are not valid because they do not include major effects on the climate such as clouds, rain, electric currents, cosmic rays, sun spots, etc.”



Quote by David Packham, former principle research scientist with Australia’s CSIRO, an officer in the Australian Bureau of Meteorology: “I find that I am uncomfortable with the quality of the science being applied to the global warming question. This lack of comfort comes from many directions: A lack of actual measurements for terrestrial radiation and the use of deemed values for particulate radiation absorption; the failure to consider the role of particulates from biomatter burning; the lack of critical thought and total acceptance of the global warming models as the conclusive evidence."



Quote by Thomas B. Gray former head Space Services branch at the NOAA and a researcher in NOAA’s Environmental Research Laboratories: “Nothing that is occurring in weather or in climate research at this time can be shown to be abnormal in the light of our knowledge of climate variations over geologic time...The claims of those convinced that AGW (anthropogenic global warming) is real and dangerous are not supported by reliable data.”



Quote by Colin Robinson, founder of the Department of Economics- University of Surrey UK, Fellow of the Royal Statistical Society: “One does not have to be a ‘climate change denier’ to see that a degree of skepticism about the present consensus might be in order....Most likely, now – as in the past – many analysts have become carried away by the results of their models, which purport to look into a far distant future, and have convinced themselves that they must embark on a crusade to enlighten others.”



Quote by Claude Culross, organic chemistry: “Fossils from our Holocene Era reveal a northern tree line approaching the Arctic Ocean. Surely it was warm enough then to preclude pack ice, and perhaps summer ice, from natural causes, and at only three-quarters of today’s carbon-dioxide level....Climate that seems unusual, but falls within the natural envelope of past climate, is no proof of man-made global warming.”


Quote by F. James Cripwell, physicist, former scientist with UK’s Cavendish Laboratory: “I am reminded of a quite well-known commercial in North America from Wendy’s, ‘Where’s the beef?’ When it comes to the [UN] IPCC claim that the increased level of CO2 in the atmosphere is the cause of global warming, where’s the science?....on the differences between astronomy and astrology, both use the same data of the relative positions and motions of the earth, sun, moon, planets and stars; both have long complex calculations; both result in numerical answers. In the case of astronomy, the numbers have a scientific meaning; in the case of astrology, they do not. It seems to me that this claim of doubling the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere resulting in a linear addition to the radiative forcing is more akin to astrology than it is to astronomy.”x



Quote by Mike MiConnell, hydrologist/geologist, professional Earth scientist U.S. Forest Service: “Our understanding on the complexities of our climate system, the Earth itself and even the sun are still quite limited. Scaring people into submission is not the answer to get people to change their environmental ways...if Earth was suffering under an accelerated greenhouse effect caused by human produced addition of CO2, the troposphere should heat up faster than the surface of the planet, but data collected from satellites and weather balloons do not support this fundamental presumption even though we are seeing higher CO2. We ought to see near lockstep temperature increments along with higher CO2 concentration over time, especially over the last several years. But we're not.”



Quote by David Bellamy, biologist: “Global warming — at least the modern nightmare vision — is a myth. I am sure of it and so are a growing number of scientists. But what is really worrying is that the world's politicians and policy makers are not.”


Quote by Lynwood Yarbrough, biochemist and molecular biologist, served as a consultant for the National Institutes of Health: “I consider myself a scientific skeptic and want to be convinced by the data before I accept something as ‘true.’ As a biologist, I am aware of a number of cases in which science has been led in directions not based on hard evidence. Examples include Malthus and the Malthusian Theory, Lysenkoism in the old Soviet Union, and eugenics in the U.S. and elsewhere.”



Quote by Christopher de Freitas, climate scientist, University of Auckland: "Climate is not responding to greenhouse gases in the way we thought it might. If increasing carbon dioxide is in fact increasing climate change, its impact is smaller than natural variation. People are being misled by people making money out of this."



Quote by Patrick Frank, chemist, author of more than 50 peer-reviewed articles: “But there is no scientific basis whatever to assert this warming is caused by human-produced greenhouse gasses because current physical theory is too grossly inadequate to establish any cause at all. Nevertheless, those who advocate extreme policies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions inevitably base their case on GCM projections, which somehow become real predictions in publicity releases....“General Circulation Models [GCM] are so terribly unreliable....even if extreme events do develop because of a warming climate, there is no scientifically valid reason to attribute the cause to human produced CO2."



Quote by Henrik Svensmark, scientist, Danish National Space Centre: “… those who are absolutely certain that the rise in temperatures is due solely to carbon dioxide have no scientific justification. It's pure guesswork.”


Quote by Greg Benson, earth scientist, geologic study/geologic modeling: “Geologists and paleo-climatologists know that in the past the Earth's temperature has been substantially warmer than it is today, and that this warming has occurred under purely natural circumstances. Until we can say precisely how much of the current global warming and greenhouse gas increase is the result of this normal temperature cycle, we will not be able to measure how much human activity has added to this natural trend, nor will we be able to predict whether there will be any lasting negative effects.”




Quote by Arun D. Ahluwalia, geologist, Punjab University: “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists.”


Quote by William M. Briggs, climate statistician: “After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet....The skill of climate forecasts---global climate models---upon which the vast majority of global warming science is based are not well investigated, but what is known is that these models do not do a good job at reproducing past, known climates, nor at predicting future climates.”




Quote by B.P. Radhakrishna, President of the Geological Society of India: "We appear to be overplaying this global warming issue as global warming is nothing new. It has happened in the past, not once but several times, giving rise to glacial-interglacial cycles."




Quote by Marcel Leroux, climatologist, director of the Laboratory of Climatology, Risks, and Environment in Lyon: "Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ... fortunately for them, the Inquisition is no longer with us!"



Quote by Nir Shariv, physicist, Racah Institute of Physics: “Like many others, I was personally sure that CO2 is the bad culprit in the story of global warming. But after carefully digging into the evidence, I realized that things are far more complicated than the story sold to us by many climate scientists or the stories regurgitated by the media. In fact, there is much more than meets the eye.”


Quote by David Evans, scientist, former global warming researcher, now a skeptic: "Land-based temperature readings are corrupted by the "urban heat island" effect: urban areas encroaching on thermometer stations warm the micro-climate around the thermometer, due to vegetation changes, concrete, cars, houses. Satellite data is the only temperature data we can trust, but it only goes back to 1979. NASA reports only land-based data, and reports a modest warming trend and recent cooling. The other three global temperature records use a mix of satellite and land measurements, or satellite only, and they all show no warming since 2001 and a recent cooling."



Quote by William F. McClenney, professional geologist and former Certified Environmental Auditor, former global warming proponent: “I believed [global warming theory]. It made sense....he then conducted extensive climate research and wrote a detailed analysis announcing that he had reversed his views....“did the math and realized that you just can’t get to global warming with CO2.”


Quote by Michael F. Farona, chemist/biochemist, emeritus professor of Chemistry, University of Akron and University of North Carolina: “What is the relationship between an increased level of carbon dioxide and temperature? Can it be predicted that an increase of so many parts per billion of carbon dioxide will cause an increase of so many degrees? I have not seen any answers to the questions posed above, leading me to adopt a somewhat skeptical view of blaming global warming on human activities. What puzzles me is the reluctance of climatologists to provide scientific data supporting their dire predictions of the near future if we don't change our ways.”




Quote by Oliver K. Manuel, professor of nuclear chemistry, the University of Missouri: “...[there is an] irrational basis of the current scare over global warming...Compared to solar magnetic fields, however, the carbon dioxide production has as much influence on climate as a flea has on the weight of an elephant.”


Quote by Peter R. Leavitt, President-Weather Information, served on the National Research Council’s Board on Atmospheric Science and Climate: “Progress in science is driven by skepticism. Dogmatism more often inhibits progress than fosters it.... There are numerous reasons to support a skeptical viewpoint. Most of the proponents of AGW rely on computer models to make their case. Very little substantive work has been done in showing that the magnitude of the influence of CO2 on climate change suggested by the various models can be derived directly through the application of first principles. There is considerable evidence that there are grievous shortcomings in the quality of the data especially with regards to the accuracy and representativeness of the surface temperature record acquired from both inland and ocean areas and upon which the various models depend."



Quote by José Ramón Arévalo, professor of Ecology-University of La Laguna, Spain: “Climate warming is more an ideology,....so, as an ideology is perfect to me, the problem is when administrators become members of this sect, and then they have to spend millions in demonstrating their ideology.”


Quote by Walter Cunningham, NASA astronaut/physicist, Apollo 7: “NASA should be at the forefront in the collection of scientific evidence and debunking the current hysteria over human-caused, or Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). Unfortunately, it is becoming just another agency caught up in the politics of global warming, or worse, politicized science.”




Quote by James A. Peden, former atmospheric physicist with U.S. Space Research and Coordination Center: "As a dissenting physicist, I simply can no longer buy the notion that CO2 produces any significant warming of the atmosphere at any rate. I’ve studied the atomic absorption physics to death, it simply doesn’t add up. Even if every single IR photon absorbed by a CO2 molecule were magically transformed into purely thermal translational modes , the pitifully small quantity of CO2 in the atmosphere doesn’t add up to much additional heat."


Quote by William Kininmonth, former head of Australia's National Climate Centre, consultant to the World Meteorological Organisation: "These specific computer models have a much exaggerated response to carbon dioxide and their response has been misinterpreted as a potential for "runaway global warming....This has led to unfounded claims of "tipping points" and "irreversibility" of the climate trends, and that the danger from anthropogenic global warming is even greater than IPCC has projected....In reality, runaway global warming is an illogical concept."




Quote by Martin Hertzberg, retired U.S. Navy meteorologist: “Not only is it false that human activity has any significant effect on global warming or the weather in general, but for the record, global warming is over. The fear-mongering hysteria about human-caused global warming is completely unjustified and is totally counterproductive to our Nation’s essential needs and security.”


Quote by Paul Reiter, scientist, Pasteur Institute: “I am a specialist in diseases transmitted by mosquitoes. So let's talk malaria. I wondered how many had taken anti-malaria tablets because they had seen Al Gore's film, 'An Inconvenient Truth', which claims that Nairobi was established in a healthy place "above the mosquito line" but is now infested with mosquitoes — naturally, because of global warming. Gore's claim is deceitful on four counts. Nairobi was dangerously infested when it was founded; it was founded for a railway, not for health reasons; it is now fairly clear of malaria; and it has not become warmer. Pseudoscience will damage your health and your wealth just as surely as malaria.”



Quote by Augusto Mangini, paleoclimate expert, University of Heidelberg: "I consider the part of the IPCC report, which I can really judge as an expert, i.e. the reconstruction of the paleoclimate, wrong...The earth will not die."



Quote by Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University: “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.”



Quote by Chief Meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia: "The media is promoting an unprecedented hyping related to global warming. The media and many scientists are ignoring very important facts that point to a natural variation in the climate system as the cause of the recent global warming."


Quote by Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology, Russian Academy of Sciences : "Even if the concentration of ‘greenhouse gases' double man would not perceive the temperature impact."




Quote by Nathan Paldor, Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography: "First, temperature changes, as well as rates of temperature changes (both increase and decrease) of magnitudes similar to that reported by IPCC to have occurred since the Industrial revolution have occurred in Earth's climatic history. There's nothing special about the recent rise!"



Quote by Hendrik Tennekes, internationally recognized expert in atmospheric boundary layer processes: "I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting - a six-meter sea level rise, fifteen times the IPCC number - entirely without merit...I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached."



Quote by Robert Durrenberger, climatologist, past president American Association of State Climatologists: "Al Gore brought me back to the battle and prompted me to do renewed research in the field of climatology. And because of all the misinformation that Gore and his army have been spreading about climate change I have decided that ‘real' climatologists should try to help the public understand the nature of the problem."


Quote by R. W. Bradnock, scientist, former head of geography at the School of Oriental and African Studies, Senior Visiting Research Fellow at King’s College London, field-based research on sea level and environmental change: “There remain many academics from a wide range of fields who question the evidence, and who believe that the catalogue of woes directly attributed to ‘global warming’ cannot be reduced simply to an increase in the proportion of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from 280 parts per million by volume to 384 ppm.”



Quote by Geoffrey Kearsley, geographer, environmental communication-University of Otago, director of Wilderness Research Foundation: “The longer trends tell us that by 2020, we will be experiencing an unusually low-energy sun. Apparently, these are exactly the conditions that preceded the Maunder Minimum and ushered in the Little Ice Age. The science goes on. “There is an increasing body of science that says that the sun may have a greater role. If it does have, then global warming is likely to stop, as it appears to have done since 1998, and if the current sunspot cycle fails to ignite, then cooling, possibly rapid and severe cooling, may eventuate.”



Quote by Tom V. Segalstad, geologist/geochemist, head of the Geological Museum - University of Oslo, past expert reviewer with the UN IPCC: "It is a search for a mythical CO2 sink to explain an immeasurable CO2 lifetime to fit a hypothetical CO2 computer model that purports to show that an impossible amount of fossil fuel burning is heating the atmosphere. It is all a fiction."




Quote by Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists and a retired Professor of Advanced Physics: "Significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming."



Quote by Frederick Seitz, Past President, U.S. National Academy of Sciences: "This treaty [Kyoto] is, in our opinion, based upon flawed ideas. Research data on climate change do not show that human use of hydrocarbons is harmful. To the contrary, there is good evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is environmentally helpful...agreement would have very negative effects upon the technology of nations throughout the world, especially those that are currently attempting to lift from poverty and provide opportunities to the over 4 billion people in technologically underdeveloped countries."



Quote by Richard Courtney, a UN IPCC expert reviewer, climate/atmospheric science consultant: "To date, no convincing evidence for AGW (anthropogenic global warming) has been discovered. And recent global climate behavior is not consistent with AGW model predictions."




Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “Is the warming unprecedented? Probably not. There is abundant historical and proxy evidence for both hotter and cooler periods in human history. Is it our fault? Again, maybe. The correlation of increasing warmth with increasing carbon dioxide concentrations is particularly weak; that with solar energy and with ocean movements is much stronger.”



Quote by Boris Winterhalter, retired scientist of marine geology at University of Helsinki: "The effect of solar winds on cosmic radiation has just recently been established and, furthermore, there seems to be a good correlation between cloudiness and variations in the intensity of cosmic radiation. Here we have a mechanism which is a far better explanation to variations in global climate than the attempts by IPCC to blame it all on anthropogenic input of greenhouse gases."



Quote by Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, researcher, Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico:“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.”



Quote by Zbigniew Jaworowski, former chairman of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR): "We thus find ourselves in the situation that the entire theory of man-made global warming-with its repercussions in science, and its important consequences for politics and the global economy-is based on ice core studies that provided a false picture of the atmospheric CO2 levels."



Quote by Geoffrey G. Duffy, Scientist, Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland: “Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.”



Quote by Peter R. Leavitt, President-Weather Information, served on the National Research Council’s Board on Atmospheric Science and Climate: "The peer review process as applied to AGW studies is deeply flawed. It lacks transparency and accountability.”


Quote by Michael J. Myers, analytical chemist, specializes in spectroscopy and atmospheric sensing: “‘Scientific’ computer simulations predict global warming based on increased greenhouse gas emissions over time. However, without water's contribution taken into account they omit the largest greenhouse gas from their equations. How can such egregious calculation errors be so blatantly ignored? This is why man-made global warming is ‘junk’ science.”



Quote by Habibullo Abdusamatov, Head of the Space Research Laboratory, Russia: “Global warming results not from the emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, but from an unusually high level of solar radiation and a lengthy — almost throughout the last century — growth in its intensity.


Quote by Roger W. Cohen, physics, American Physical Society fellow: “At this point there is little doubt that the IPCC position is seriously flawed in its central position that humanity is responsible for most of the observed warming of the last third of the 20th century, and in its projections for effects in the 21st century.”



Quote by David Wojick, UN IPCC expert reviewer, co-founded the Department of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie-Mellon University: "In point of fact, the hypothesis that solar variability and not human activity is warming the oceans goes a long way to explain the puzzling idea that the Earth's surface may be warming while the atmosphere is not. The GHG (greenhouse gas) hypothesis does not do this....The public is not well served by this constant drumbeat of false alarms fed by computer models manipulated by advocates."


Quote by Miklós Zágoni, Hungarian environmental researcher, physicist, reversed his view of man-made warming and is now a skeptic: “Nature's regulatory instrument is water vapor:more carbon dioxide leads to less moisture in the air, keeping the overall GHG [greenhouse gas] content in accord with the necessary balance conditions.”



Quote by Andrei Kapitsa, a Russian geographer and Antarctic ice core researcher: “The Kyoto theorists have put the cart before the horse. It is global warming that triggers higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, not the other way round.”



Quote by Wolfgang P. Thuene, former analyst and forecaster for the German Weather Service, German Environmental Protection Agency: “All temperature and weather observations indicate that the earth isn’t like a greenhouse and that there is in reality no ‘natural greenhouse effect’ which could warm up the earth by its own emitted energy and cause by re-emission a ‘global warming effect’. With or without atmosphere every body looses heat, gets inevitably colder....the most perfect thermos flask can’t avoid that the hot coffee really gets cold. The hypothesis of a natural and a man-made ‘greenhouse effect’, like eugenics, belongs to the category ‘scientific errors.”


Quote by Robert DeFayette, chemist and nuclear engineer, NASA’s Plum Brook Reactor, served as consultant to the Department of Energy: “I freely admit I am a skeptic....Until a few months ago, scientists believed we had 9 planets, but now we have 8 because Pluto was demoted....At the time of Columbus, the scientific consensus was that the earth was flat but obviously that was wrong. In the late 18th century, ‘Neptunists’ were convinced that all of the rocks of the Earth’s crust had been precipitated from water, a British geologist characterized the supporting evidence as ‘incontrovertible....In each of these cases there was ‘scientific consensus’ that eventually was rejected.”



Quote by Dennis Hollars, astrophysicist: “Man-made global warming is basically flawed science at this point. We do not have sufficient temperature data to even decide if there is a planetary scale warming, let alone what the cause might be. In the ’70s it was global cooling that was the scare - by many of the same people who are pushing warming now, using models that are not even close to reality.”




Quote by George Reisman, economist, emeritus professor-Pepperdine University: “Global warming is not a threat. But environmentalism’s response to it is....Even if global warming is a fact, the free citizens of an industrial civilization will have no great difficulty in coping with it—that is, of course, if their ability to use energy and to produce is not crippled by the environmental movement and by government controls otherwise inspired.”



Quote by Victor Pochat, president of the Argentine Institute of Water Resources and professor of water resources planning at Universidad del Litoral: “....it is not clear that increases of a few degrees in average temperature of the planet is directly related to human activity but could be due to cyclical effects....Scientists that deserve credit for their background say global warming is a climatic variability associated to cycles of warming and cooling of the Earth.”




Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “Are we likely to see rising sea-levels? Not in our lifetimes or those of our grandchildren. It is not even clear that sea-levels have risen at all. As so often in this domain, there is conflicting evidence. The melting of polar or sea ice has no direct effect.”



Quote by Robert Woock, senior geophysicist at Stone Energy, past president-Southwest Louisiana Geophysical Society: “I do not see any evidence in nature or data to suggest that we are in any anthropologic climate cycle....We have certainly created local climes, hot cities and deforestation that affect certain areas, but these are reversible to a large degree.”



Quote by Jarl R. Ahlbeck, scientist, a chemical engineer at Abo Akademi University in Finland, former Greenpeace member: “So far, real measurements give no ground for concern about a catastrophic future warming.”



Quote by Art V. Douglas, former Chair of the Atmospheric Sciences Department at Creighton University: “Whatever the weather, it's not being caused by global warming. If anything, the climate may be starting into a cooling period.”




Quote by Patrick Frank, chemist, authored more than 50 peer-reviewed articles: “But there is no falsifiable scientific basis whatever to assert this warming is caused by human-produced greenhouse gasses because current physical theory is too grossly inadequate to establish any cause at all.”



Quote by Richard Keen, climatologist, Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences University of Colorado: “Earth has cooled since 1998 in defiance of the predictions by the UN-IPCC….The global temperature for 2007 was the coldest in a decade and the coldest of the millennium…which is why ‘global warming’ is now called ‘climate change.’”



Quote by G LeBlanc Smith, a retired Principal Research Scientist with Australia’s Commonwealth Scientific and Research Organization (CSIRO): “I have yet to see credible proof of carbon dioxide driving climate change, yet alone man-made CO2 driving it. The atmospheric hot-spot is missing and the ice core data refute this. When will we collectively awake from this deceptive delusion?”



Quote by Philip Lloyd, a UN IPCC co-coordinating lead author, nuclear physcist: “The quantity of CO2 we produce is insignificant in terms of the natural circulation between air, water and soil....I am doing a detailed assessment of the UN IPCC reports and the Summaries for Policy Makers, identifying the way in which the Summaries have distorted the science.”



Quote by John Takeuchi, meteorologist: “Politicians have come to see global warming as a way to raise revenue by rationing CO2 production with schemes such as the ‘cap and trade’ legislation now in Congress. The taxes assessed for producing CO2 could be huge. But global warming as proclaimed by Al Gore and Co., is a hoax.”



Quote by Kenneth P. Green, environmental scientist, the American Enterprise Institute: “While I believe that Earth has experienced a
mild, non-enhanced greenhouse warming which will continue in the foreseeable future, I think the chaotic nature of the climate system makes projections of the future climate no better than science fiction....I am intensely skeptical of the entire process of predictive climate modeling, from its ability to meaningfully predict the climate in the future, to its ability to tell us how much of activity A would result in climate change B. These models have so many parameters that can be arbitrarily ‘tuned’ as to make them little more than a tool for mathematizing the fantasy scenarios of the programmers who set up and run the programs.”




Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “How reliable are the computer [climate] models on which possible future climates are based? Not very. All will agree that the task of modeling climate is vast, because of the estimates that have to be made and the rubbery quality of much of the data.”



Quote by Perry Ong, director of the Institute of Biology at the UP College of Science, Phillipines: “Climate change has become a convenient excuse when there are other [environmental] issues that need to be addressed....If we disproportionately blame ourselves for [climate change], our response will be different....we should look at the [bigger picture] and address other issues....there are 12 serious environment problems that need to be addressed in order to effectively deal with climate change....issues are: The destruction and conversion of forest, ocean, fresh water systems and other natural habitats; overharvesting of wild foods; the loss of biodiversity; excess fossil fuel extraction; soil erosion and swelling human population.”



Quote by Pal Brekke, solar physicist, senior advisor Norwegian Space Centre: “Anyone who claims that the debate is over and the conclusions are firm has a fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues of our time.”



Quote by Frederick Seitz, Past President, U.S. National Academy of Sciences: The IPCC “is pre-programmed to produce reports to support the hypotheses of anthropogenic warming and the control of greenhouse gases, as envisioned in the Global Climate Treaty....the 1990 IPCC Summary “completely ignored satellite data, since they showed no warming. The 1995 IPCC report was notorious for the significant alterations made to the text after it was approved by the scientists — in order to convey the impression of a human influence. The 2001 IPCC report claimed the twentieth century showed ‘unusual warming’ based on the now-discredited hockey stick graph. The latest IPCC report, published in 2007, completely devaluates the climate contributions from changes in solar activities, which are likely to dominate any human influence.”



Quote by Sherwood Thoele, analytical chemist and mathematician: “Because CO2 is slightly soluble in water and will come back to the Earth with precipitation, nature corrects for any excess, just as it does with other excess materials from volcanoes and forest fires. Nature recycles all of what it considers excess very efficiently.”



Gerhard Lobert, physicist, Recipient of The Needle of Honor of German Aeronautics: “The hypothesis that the global warming of the past decades is man-made is based on the results of calculations with climate models in which the main influence on climate is not included. The most important climate driver (besides solar luminosity) comes from the interplay of solar activity, interplanetary magnetic field strength, cosmic radiation intensity, and cloud cover of the Earth atmosphere.”



Quote by Jon Hartzler, retired science professor from St. Cloud State University: "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”



Quote by Colin Robinson, founder of the Department of Economics- University of Surrey UK, Fellow of the Royal Statistical Society: “Human myopia cannot be overcome simply by well-meaning attempts to build [climate] models that purport to peer decades and centuries ahead. Action taken now, in anticipation of supposed long run trends, may concentrate on the wrong issues and make matters worse rather than better.”



Quote by Topper Shutt, chief meterologist, Washington D.C. Channel 9: “Global warming is such a politically charged issue that we are losing our perspective on the issue and more importantly losing an open forum from which to discuss the issue. If we lose the right or comfort level to openly discuss and debate this issue we will not be able to tackle it efficiently and economically.”



Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “Why is there such insistence that AGW has occurred and needs drastic solutions? This is a puzzle, but my short answer is that the IPCC has been built on the AGW proposition and of course keeps plugging it, whatever the data say. The IPCC has considerable clout. Most people shy off inspecting the evidence because it looks like science and must therefore be hard. The media have been captured by AGW (it makes for great stories), the environmental movement and the Greens love it, and business is reluctant to get involved.”


Quote by John McLean, climate data analyst, Australian Climate Science Coalition: "The IPCC leads us to believe that this statement ['it is very highly likely that greenhouse gas forcing has been the dominant cause of the observed global warming over the last 50 years'] is very much supported by the majority of reviewers. The reality is that there is surprisingly little explicit support for this key notion. Among the 23 independent reviewers [of IPCC report] just 4 explicitly endorsed the chapter with its hypothesis."xx



Quote by Nigel Lawson, former Chancellor of the Exchequer of UK : “Not only is the Kyoto approach to global warming wrong-headed, the climate change establishment's suppression of dissent and criticism is little short of a scandal. The IPCC should be shut down.”


Quote by Jay Lehr, science director Heartland Institute: “The European Union and environmental advocacy groups use global warming hysteria to advance their own special agendas. The European Union recognizes any significant reduction in CO2 emissions by the United States will significantly reduce its economic output, thereby bringing it closer to the inferior output of European nations.”


Quote by Vincent Gray, climate scientist, expert reviewer on every single draft of the IPCC reports: "The [IPCC] ‘Summary for Policymakers' might get a few readers, but the main purpose of the report is to provide a spurious scientific backup for the absurd claims of the worldwide environmentalist lobby that it has been established scientifically that increases in carbon dioxide are harmful to the climate. It just does not matter that this ain't so."


Quote by Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic: (The IPCC is) “not a scientific body capable of accurately assessing the facts about global warming”.


Quote by Harlan Watson, U.S. negotiator at UN Climate Change convention: “The Kyoto protocol was a political agreement. It was not based on science.”



Quote by Kirill Kondratyev, scientist, Russian Academy of Sciences: “The only people who would be hurt by abandoning the Kyoto Protocol would be several thousand people who make a living attending conferences on global warming.”
 
Some of those quotes make some good points, but many of them have nothing to do with anything. “Being a scientist means being a skeptic.” isn't saying anything about climate change. Being a skeptic means accepting evidence, it doesn't justify general distrust or denialism. Many make use of strawmen, false dichotomy, ect. I can compile a similar list saying the holocaust didn't happen, that evolution isn't real, that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, and that Bigfoot needs more funding for study.

We already knew 3% of climatologists disagree. We already knew that scientists outside of their expertise misunderstand. We already knew that your brain is impressed by arguments from authority and popularity. None of this caused us to 'weep' before, why should it now that you have demonstrated it verbosely?
 
It is not absurd. They were just as positive of their research findings about a soon to be occurring catastrophic change as the current alarmists are, but look how wrong they were.

Interpretation: "How can we trust science when it once told us that the eath was the center of the universe, then it said that the sun revolved around the earth and now Bwahaha, they say the earth revolves around the SUN!" The point of science is that it hones in on the truth through iterative examinations of the facts and evidence before them - the scientific method.

Shall we claim that astronomy is all wrong because we continue to discover that the universe is larger than once supposed? Shall we call geology hogwash because we tend to find that the earth is older than we once thought? No, but this is the line of reasoning you use.


They hold a belief and then they perform advocacy research attempting to prove their concrete belief. When someone does that they invariably shape their findings to support their already held concrete belief, and they manipulate data, they exclude data, they do not report everything they discover, they tell the world bits and pieces of what they discovered, making sure they create a scary sounding scenario

That isn't science and yet, for the most part the "science" of your nay saying representation operates exactly that way. You quote Spencer while at the same time complaining about financialy or ideologicaly biased scientific findings. This sort of "science" is discovered and discarded through honest research and as has been said, scientists dream of nothing more than being the one who casts aside an entire established belief. I assure you, legitimate scientists would like nothing more than to be able to prove that global warming is a hoax but attempting to do so from an Exxon fund is likely to result in the very bullshit that Spencer and his type so consistantly manage.

Finally you mention obscene amounts of grant money. I noticed you didn't comment on the GCC and it's stated purpose in an earlier thread. What I said was that all the grant money for global climate research pales in comparison to the amount of money vested in the status quo. Much of the "other side's" money was spent on advertisement and disinformation rather than legitimate research but still, the status quo is worth tens of trillions, global warming, billions at most.
 
One more thing Brick top? I am interested in this debate but am unwilling to weed through the mountains of cut and paste chaff. Are the deniers denying CO2 increases as well?
 
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