Cinderella 99 (C-99) Brothers Grimm

brewer7 said:

Crap. That's disappointing Those beans are ordered and slated for the next grow. What did you find not that good... yield? vitality? Taste? Effect???

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NevilleS.2013 said:

That's an interesting story. Princess's mother was a queen from royal lineage. She won cups under various names. Her mother was NL5HzC1 and she won cups and her mother was NL5 and she won a cup. The assumption that the father was a sibling to JH is wishful thinking and far from likely. One can only hope that the father was a NL5Hz, which is how the original seed version of JH was made.If I was going to do further line breeding with the C99, I'd be looking to add Haze A male and 5HzC122 (the sister of 5HzC1) to the mix. Further back crossing to princess won't take this any further.

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brewer7 said:

Crap. That's disappointing Those beans are ordered and slated for the next grow. What did you find not that good... yield? vitality? Taste? Effect???

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Why would you take such a good plant and add more haze to it?

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hazey grapes said:

uh... because REAL haze, and not the watered down crap everyone CALLS haze these days is WAAAAAAAY better and C99 isn't that far from being a gereic haze herself. C99 haze makes more sense than NL5, critical+, G13, blueberry, skunk, lowryder or even afghani *cringe* haze! i was expecting better than a generic haze high out of cindy that just isn't there, but it's way better than the other cash crap to keep a haze high in tact, but speed it up better than those other stoner strains that have been mainstream for too long now that much better hybrids like herer are available. the real question is why NOT cindy and apollo haze instead of dragging it down with more afghani dominant fodder?

i like sativa trans love better than C99 myself. it has more fruity haze flavor, can be more compact and definitely faster flowering, with a little bit more of a generic haze high that falls short of trippy still. C99's ONLY good use is clearheaded activities. that's too one dimensional. trippier and more mellow apollo 11 has to be much better, but jack herer and i'm sure it's super silver haze twin are too.

haze is THE buzz a billion more percent want than get or my name wouldn't be hazey grapes. few here, myself included sadly, even know what REAL haze brothers is like, but i'm sure it's closer to columbian gold than anything else i've EVER smoked.

C99 columbian! C99 malawi!, panamaa! kerala! burmese!, vietnamese blackseed!, cambodian! durban! and so on... we need MORE of that kinda good stuff, not less! less is bad... less is greedy schwag. C99's not my favorite strain, but most of the alternatives are worse

shit... most of the stuff that CALLS itself haze should be lucky to get crossed with some REAL!

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bluntmassa1 said:

he uses c99 a lot cause the linage of his favorite father plant is c99 x romulan
but subcool don't use a11 for his a13 backcross from what he has on their site:

Hybrid:

Apollo 13 is a cross between Genius and P75 (a precursor to C99)

I don't understand how this guy advertises taste who wants weed that tastes like rotten fruit and baby poolol:

Taste:

It's almost indescribable, like rotting fruit, citrus, and baby poo with a hint of pepper

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SmoochieBoochies said:

C99 backstory (not mine, thought I'd share, love this strain, my absolute favorite):

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[h=2]C99 – Cinderella 99 – Cindy 99 – Brothers Grimm[/h]Brothers Grimm – Cinderella 99 http://en.seedfinder.eu/Brothers_Grimm_-_Cinderella_99.html

mostly sativa; Flowering: ~50 days;

aka: Cindy; or C99; or Cindy 99



This strain may be the “Holy Grail”. The result of painstakingly backcrossing a VERY RARE female to her male progeny over 3 generations. This hybrid was specifically bred for indoor cultivation. Short-statured & heavily branched, this plant grows LONG, dense colas with an EXTREMELY high flower/leaf ratio and OUTRAGEOUS resin production. The breeder has observed a “giant leap” in potency with each progressive generation and, as expected, Cinderella 99 has topped all previous results – her high is heavily influenced by Haze; clear, energetic & devastatingly psychoactive. A plant with all of the above is rare enough, but Cinderella 99 finishes flowering after a scant 50 days of 12/12! Above-average yields of crystal covered buds reeking of tropical fruit aromas can be harvested every other month once a mother plant is selected and asexually propagated.
Flowering: 50 days
Height: 100 cm
Yield: 1-2lbs per 1000W lamp



Cinderella Story
Comments from MrSoul:


I’ve been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the “Cinderella Story”, so here it is:
In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ “Sensi Smile” coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn’t expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call “Princess”.
Therefore Princess’ mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.

I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe’Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is “Cinderella 99″, a cubed version of Princess.


The name “Cinderella” was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It’s also VERY similar to the story of the “Morgan Horse”…go Figure
I ALWAYS see preflowers between the age of 4 and 6 weeks. Node 6 is commonly where they start, so I’d say you’re probably seeing them. The plants that show first are usually males. Look over each plant carefully, using a loupe. If you see a preflower at such an early age, it’ll most likely be male, but be SURE before culling it. If you can’t find a preflower on a plant, while most of the others HAVE shown… it’s most likely a female. Isn’t that uniformity NICE? Cinderella 99 is a STABLE strain. Cinderella 88 was close, but this generation is there.
(Cinderella needs odor control?) I don’t know if it helps you, but the scent is very sweet and fruity. It won’t “fool” anyone who’s familiar with MJ, but the average person might not recognize the scent as pot. They start to smell after 3 weeks of 12/12 and they’re harvested 4 weeks later, so the SHORT flowering cycle helps a bit by lessening the amount of time your garden “stinks”.
Yields are highly dependant on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. I get about 2 lbs every 50 days under 2kW. I grow a combination of bushes and single-cola clones (about 12-20 of ‘em) in 2 gallon pots of organic soil, feeding them “teas” of dissolved worm castings, PSG, high phosphorus bat guano and kelp meal. My yields are average at best. Professional growers write me saying they get 2lbs/kW, which I’m sure is true.


The scent given off by Cinderella is NOT the typical “pot stench”…not at all skunky -she’s sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. C-99 is more “psychedelic”… I think that’s what you’re looking for eh? Just be sure to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more…it’s easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.
Haze is my favourite high. Very “trippy” C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high and each time I back-cross to her the next generation gets a bit more of it. Smoking PURE Princess buds is a bit scary… it’s too “speedy” and paranoia-inducing for most people. But she’s so RESINOUS (see photo) and her flavour is just so delicious and fruity that I knew back-crossing her to her offspring over several generations would create a strain which is actually BETTER than the original mother in terms of a more PLEASING high. It was successful beyond my expectations.


The progression I went through was:
P.50 = Princess/(ShivaSkunk/Princess’Brother)
P.75 = Princess/P.50
Cinderella 88 = Princess/P.75
Cinderella 99 = Princess/Cinderella 88
Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is “TRIP WEED” with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess.
C-99 will be a bigger yielder and faster finisher (than D/T) – which I personally think makes more sense to begin a grow with. If you’re growing under 1000W lamps, you should easily get a pound of C-99 per lamp after a 7 week flowering period. When you have all the weed you need and can take your time waiting for a long-flowering Sativa, THEN start those “extra” beans (included in your order)… I don’t know what the Bros Grimm sent you, but it’s NOT Durban/Thai. I’m still developing it, so they won’t see it for about 6 months.

Thanks for noticing her she IS beautiful! Cafe’Girl is a sister of “Princess” – Princess is the mother of the Cinderella series. Cafe’Girl smells like a combination of ginger, orange and cream… kinda smells like a “Creamsicle” -you know those ice cream bars? She has the highest YIELD of the 3 Sisters (Princess, Genius and Cafe’Girl). Cafe’Girl makes HUGE, DENSE, SPARKLING buds with a lovely high. A really sweet high, in that you never feel paranoid and it continues to “creep up” over the first 15 minutes after you smoke, leaving you feeling warm and at peace with life. Bros Grimm may offer an hybrid of Cafe’Girl when enough testing of her offspring has been completed.


1. I flower clones when they’re about a foot tall and they double in height during flowering.
2. They clone SUPER EASY.
3. Crossing Cindy 88′s will you a variety of phenotypes… they’re not stable. Cindy 99 IS STABLE.
4. The seeds are small, tan in colour and “speckled” not striped. If you ordered from either Bros.Grimm or Heaven’s Stairway you WON’T get ripped off…but I’ll describe the plants:

As seedlings they’re fast-growing, Indica-dominant with fairly wide leaves. They show preflowers @ 5-6 weeks old WITHOUT FAIL. They NEVER herm, so if the preflowers have pistils, it’s FEMALE forever. They flower RAPIDLY – you probably won’t believe how fat and dense and frosty they’ll be @ 4-5 weeks 12/12. The flower/leaf is EXTREMELY high; the tops of the colas go NUTS at about 5 weeks into flowering, sending braid-like floral cluster projections out in all directions without any leaves. Just before that happens, hundreds of SNOW WHITE pistils make the tip of the colas look like they’re wearing fur caps! The resin production is HEAVY (again, you won’t believe it), a HEAVENLY scent of tropical fruit and berries begins to fill the room @ 3 weeks of 12/12 and just keeps getting more overpowering ’til they’re done. The finished smoke is the type of high that keeps you UP; it’s very cerebral – the only body effect is the “jitters”. I certainly wouldn’t recommend it to anyone looking to “mellow out” on the sofa, BUT if you wanted to smoke before going running or cycling – PERFECT!


I smoked C-88 one eve after trying Silver Haze and the C-88 buzz cut RIGHT THROUGH the high of the Haze so badly that my wife asked me, “what did you do?… smoke too much?” The flavour is just like the scent; fruity and sweet…not at all hashy (not that there’s anything WRONG with that!…heehee.
Outdoors, Apollo 13 and Cinderella 88 will finish before October 15th at 43 degrees north lattitude.
If you liked NL#5/Haze, you’ll like C-99 too. It’s got a sweet, fruity taste and some of that “paranoia inducing” effect, very cerebral and speedy. The major advantages of C-99 over the old Haze x NL#5 from the original Seed Bank are rapid maturation and bigger yield. The highs and flavours are “different” but in the same class.

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whitetiger said:

Mosca Negra has c99 f1 (not really though its a cross of separate f4 and f6 c99 lines ) and c99 bx1 . The bx1 is stabilized for the pineapple pheno , where as the f1 has more variety.

I can say the c99bx1 is great and seems to be very close to the original, though i never smoke an actually bro grim c99 it seems t match the descriptions and is very potent.

Also kingdom of organic has an f3 worth checking out supposedly from the original brothers grimm line.

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