Cinderella 99 (C-99) Brothers Grimm

hazey grapes

Well-Known Member
and here i thought i just annoy the crap out of everyone. gee thanks. :)

oh... i see the subtext!

"you know... you aren't so much of an asshole when you aren't letting people push your buttons and make you want to jump through the computer and knock them unconstipated. try being subtle, even positive a little more often, huh?"

i'm workin' on it. it's all good. if i really wanted to get high. i have JC2, haze skunk, sweet haze & many more great to awesome strains i can be blazing.

next goals... curing and having excess. is it my imagination, or do i blaze like crazy when i have what seems like a limitless supply of bud at a glance?
 

Toolegit2quit

Active Member
I've got 5 of the Mosca C99 going right now. (I'm not sure if it is the same as the bros grimm.. they take their strain description from Brothers Grimm) I've been trying to find brothers grimm apollo 11...

I'm about 1/2 way done with no hermies or issues at all.

5 out of 7 were female and it looks like I have 3-4 phenos. 1 short indica looking bush, the rest stretched but one of them is a little different, it has a slightly lighter green color and a slightly different looking bud development, huge balls of hairs that look like they'll be golfball size buds.. Another of the 4 stretchers is clearly filling in quicker and looks like it'll yield more, or maybe it's just a faster finisher.. we'll see.

Loving watching these fill out, watching the slightly different characteristics of each plant, while each is slightly different, the plant structure is beautiful on all 5... I'm just super excited to have a stable strain to check out with no worries of hermies this round! So far a few have a slight pineapple scent but I don't like squeezing or messing with the plants to release more scent.. I'm patiently waiting till they're done.

so far so good.
 

hiluxphantom

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man now i feel like a douche.....my breeding planss is a pack of mosca c99 and a few apollo13 BX fro subcool and ak47 and black dominia im gonna merge that c99 with everaythang. EVeraythang? EVERAYTHANG
 

raymo238

Member
Growing c99 in dwc useing gn hydro flora 3 prt. Dose any one know the ph that this lovely plant favores as seem to be having mag def after 2 weeks at 5.5 to 5.9.
 

hazey grapes

Well-Known Member
I've been trying to find brothers grimm apollo 11
well, it will be some time until bodhi gets his A11 genius phenos back up and running again, but TGA subcool has apollo 13. i don't know what difference there is between A11 & A13. i'm guessingit's just another pheno like back when there was NL#5 and two other northern lights phenos available.

all of the current apollos & cindys SHOULD be descended from brothers grimm original stock, but the phenos have diversified. even back when they were still in biz though, "potent pineapple" was the cindy pheno you hoped you got.

i'm liking mellower and trippier jack herers nowadays. i wanted to get some joey weed A11, but he went out of biz right before i ordered, so i grabbed a pack of cindy apollo before that vanished too.

a lot of TGA Subcool strains have either cinderella or apollo 11 in them and both have been used in plenty of hybrids too. there's been more than one "cindy's blues". i have 2 joey weed's of that too, though i've seen it under that name elsewhere.

C99 is best for work and activities, or if you are too twitchy to dabble in psychoactivity, though there are reports of paranoia with cindy. i don't recall ever experiencing it with joey's fruit phenos. there was someone mentioning a new version of cindy out by frost brothers. that's one to look into.

it's just a strain that vanishes and re-emerges. for a couple years, joey was the only breeder i knew that had either cindy or apollo, then mosca, female seeds, bodhi & even nirvana brought it back, but now mosca and bodhi are back out of the picture. WTF? you'd almost think there was a conspiracy to keep it off the market perpetuated by cash crappers or something.
 

bluntmassa1

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well, it will be some time until bodhi gets his A11 genius phenos back up and running again, but TGA subcool has apollo 13. i don't know what difference there is between A11 & A13. i'm guessingit's just another pheno like back when there was NL#5 and two other northern lights phenos available.

all of the current apollos & cindys SHOULD be descended from brothers grimm original stock, but the phenos have diversified. even back when they were still in biz though, "potent pineapple" was the cindy pheno you hoped you got.

i'm liking mellower and trippier jack herers nowadays. i wanted to get some joey weed A11, but he went out of biz right before i ordered, so i grabbed a pack of cindy apollo before that vanished too.

a lot of TGA Subcool strains have either cinderella or apollo 11 in them and both have been used in plenty of hybrids too. there's been more than one "cindy's blues". i have 2 joey weed's of that too, though i've seen it under that name elsewhere.

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he uses c99 a lot cause the linage of his favorite father plant is c99 x romulan
but subcool don't use a11 for his a13 backcross from what he has on their site:
Hybrid:Apollo 13 is a cross between Genius and P75 (a precursor to C99)




I don't understand how this guy advertises taste who wants weed that tastes like rotten fruit and baby poo:spew:lol:
Taste:It's almost indescribable, like rotting fruit, citrus, and baby poo with a hint of pepper



 

hazey grapes

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I don't understand how this guy advertises taste who wants weed that tastes like rotten fruit and baby poo
lol:
you're not the only one who thinks that. that's why i'm looking into pina colada third dimension instead of A13. actually that strain combines two strains i'd be interested in were it not for the flavor of one and the name of the other.

there's a lot of nasty strains out there though that people seem to go for
- cat piss... oh that haze pheno is VULGAR! i had some bud in a scraps bag that also included sickeningly sweet, like getting trapped in an elevator with someone who bathed in perfume so you can taste it lavender and some kind of pineapple. the buzz was OK with the cat piss, but that flavor? oh no!
- diesel... i'll NEVER understand anyone liking that crap. it's foul tasting to me, like licking truck stop tarmac. the buzz i got off ,y onyx freebie was bitchin', but that flavor has got to go. i picture chemdog being less than tasty too
- hog's breath... really? B.O.?

yeah... rotting fruit & baby poo aren't exactly on my shopping list. that's probably why A13 never caught on. i still don't care for afghani skunk ass either. it was funny when dealers tried to use that as part of their "bag appeal' propaganda to make weak minded smokers forget the shit doesn't get them high. i don't see any reason at all to grow funky strains. it's a negative trait to be avoided, but i'm cool with fluffy peach fuzz columbian gold popcorn that tastes like a common wild weed.

i do like TGA Subcool's jack's cleaner though... awesome buzz and DOESN'T taste bad either, though i wouldn't exactly say it tasted like lemonhead candy.
 

farmerjoe420

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well, it will be some time until bodhi gets his A11 genius phenos back up and running again, but TGA subcool has apollo 13. i don't know what difference there is between A11 & A13. i'm guessingit's just another pheno like back when there was NL#5 and two other northern lights phenos available.

all of the current apollos & cindys SHOULD be descended from brothers grimm original stock, but the phenos have diversified. even back when they were still in biz though, "potent pineapple" was the cindy pheno you hoped you got.




i'm liking mellower and trippier jack herers nowadays. i wanted to get some joey weed A11, but he went out of biz right before i ordered, so i grabbed a pack of cindy apollo before that vanished too.

a lot of TGA Subcool strains have either cinderella or apollo 11 in them and both have been used in plenty of hybrids too. there's been more than one "cindy's blues". i have 2 joey weed's of that too, though i've seen it under that name elsewhere.

C99 is best for work and activities, or if you are too twitchy to dabble in psychoactivity, though there are reports of paranoia with cindy. i don't recall ever experiencing it with joey's fruit phenos. there was someone mentioning a new version of cindy out by frost brothers. that's one to look into.

it's just a strain that vanishes and re-emerges. for a couple years, joey was the only breeder i knew that had either cindy or apollo, then mosca, female seeds, bodhi & even nirvana brought it back, but now mosca and bodhi are back out of the picture. WTF? you'd almost think there was a conspiracy to keep it off the market perpetuated by cash crappers or something.



motarebel has apollo 13 F4 from original BG stock right now. hes vending at the farm and tsd
 

Clankie

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E$cobar has two c99 crosses that look good, I'm running some Holy Princess (c99 x Santa Maria) right now, I think I have three females, one definite and around 10 days into 12/12. I opted for the Holy Princess due to the similar speedy sativa nature, fruit tastes, and fast finishing time of both the c99 and the Santa Maria cut; but if hybrids are more your thing the Chucky's Bride (UK Cheese x c99) should be top notch as well.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Fuck that's not good to hear, I got a pack I was going to maybe run next
check out the c99 from the frost bro's.. dizz made them from original bro's grimm stock ,and are like an f4 or so and very nice... he has them separated by flavor as well.. you can buy just the pineapple pheno, or the spicy pheno..

i ran the pineapple pheno and they're very nice plants.. very nice pineapple taste, good yields and a nice sativa dom high.. :D plus dizzle is good people and i like to support the small guy.. :D
 

NevilleS.2013

Active Member
C99 backstory (not mine, thought I'd share, love this strain, my absolute favorite):

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C99 – Cinderella 99 – Cindy 99 – Brothers Grimm

Brothers Grimm – Cinderella 99 http://en.seedfinder.eu/Brothers_Grimm_-_Cinderella_99.html

mostly sativa; Flowering: ~50 days;

aka: Cindy; or C99; or Cindy 99



This strain may be the “Holy Grail”. The result of painstakingly backcrossing a VERY RARE female to her male progeny over 3 generations. This hybrid was specifically bred for indoor cultivation. Short-statured & heavily branched, this plant grows LONG, dense colas with an EXTREMELY high flower/leaf ratio and OUTRAGEOUS resin production. The breeder has observed a “giant leap” in potency with each progressive generation and, as expected, Cinderella 99 has topped all previous results – her high is heavily influenced by Haze; clear, energetic & devastatingly psychoactive. A plant with all of the above is rare enough, but Cinderella 99 finishes flowering after a scant 50 days of 12/12! Above-average yields of crystal covered buds reeking of tropical fruit aromas can be harvested every other month once a mother plant is selected and asexually propagated.
Flowering: 50 days
Height: 100 cm
Yield: 1-2lbs per 1000W lamp



Cinderella Story
Comments from MrSoul:


I’ve been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the “Cinderella Story”, so here it is:
In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ “Sensi Smile” coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn’t expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call “Princess”.
Therefore Princess’ mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.

I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe’Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is “Cinderella 99″, a cubed version of Princess.


The name “Cinderella” was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It’s also VERY similar to the story of the “Morgan Horse”…go Figure
I ALWAYS see preflowers between the age of 4 and 6 weeks. Node 6 is commonly where they start, so I’d say you’re probably seeing them. The plants that show first are usually males. Look over each plant carefully, using a loupe. If you see a preflower at such an early age, it’ll most likely be male, but be SURE before culling it. If you can’t find a preflower on a plant, while most of the others HAVE shown… it’s most likely a female. Isn’t that uniformity NICE? Cinderella 99 is a STABLE strain. Cinderella 88 was close, but this generation is there.
(Cinderella needs odor control?) I don’t know if it helps you, but the scent is very sweet and fruity. It won’t “fool” anyone who’s familiar with MJ, but the average person might not recognize the scent as pot. They start to smell after 3 weeks of 12/12 and they’re harvested 4 weeks later, so the SHORT flowering cycle helps a bit by lessening the amount of time your garden “stinks”.
Yields are highly dependant on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. I get about 2 lbs every 50 days under 2kW. I grow a combination of bushes and single-cola clones (about 12-20 of ‘em) in 2 gallon pots of organic soil, feeding them “teas” of dissolved worm castings, PSG, high phosphorus bat guano and kelp meal. My yields are average at best. Professional growers write me saying they get 2lbs/kW, which I’m sure is true.


The scent given off by Cinderella is NOT the typical “pot stench”…not at all skunky -she’s sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. C-99 is more “psychedelic”… I think that’s what you’re looking for eh? Just be sure to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more…it’s easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.
Haze is my favourite high. Very “trippy” C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high and each time I back-cross to her the next generation gets a bit more of it. Smoking PURE Princess buds is a bit scary… it’s too “speedy” and paranoia-inducing for most people. But she’s so RESINOUS (see photo) and her flavour is just so delicious and fruity that I knew back-crossing her to her offspring over several generations would create a strain which is actually BETTER than the original mother in terms of a more PLEASING high. It was successful beyond my expectations.


The progression I went through was:
P.50 = Princess/(ShivaSkunk/Princess’Brother)
P.75 = Princess/P.50
Cinderella 88 = Princess/P.75
Cinderella 99 = Princess/Cinderella 88
Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is “TRIP WEED” with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess.
C-99 will be a bigger yielder and faster finisher (than D/T) – which I personally think makes more sense to begin a grow with. If you’re growing under 1000W lamps, you should easily get a pound of C-99 per lamp after a 7 week flowering period. When you have all the weed you need and can take your time waiting for a long-flowering Sativa, THEN start those “extra” beans (included in your order)… I don’t know what the Bros Grimm sent you, but it’s NOT Durban/Thai. I’m still developing it, so they won’t see it for about 6 months.

Thanks for noticing her she IS beautiful! Cafe’Girl is a sister of “Princess” – Princess is the mother of the Cinderella series. Cafe’Girl smells like a combination of ginger, orange and cream… kinda smells like a “Creamsicle” -you know those ice cream bars? She has the highest YIELD of the 3 Sisters (Princess, Genius and Cafe’Girl). Cafe’Girl makes HUGE, DENSE, SPARKLING buds with a lovely high. A really sweet high, in that you never feel paranoid and it continues to “creep up” over the first 15 minutes after you smoke, leaving you feeling warm and at peace with life. Bros Grimm may offer an hybrid of Cafe’Girl when enough testing of her offspring has been completed.


1. I flower clones when they’re about a foot tall and they double in height during flowering.
2. They clone SUPER EASY.
3. Crossing Cindy 88′s will you a variety of phenotypes… they’re not stable. Cindy 99 IS STABLE.
4. The seeds are small, tan in colour and “speckled” not striped. If you ordered from either Bros.Grimm or Heaven’s Stairway you WON’T get ripped off…but I’ll describe the plants:

As seedlings they’re fast-growing, Indica-dominant with fairly wide leaves. They show preflowers @ 5-6 weeks old WITHOUT FAIL. They NEVER herm, so if the preflowers have pistils, it’s FEMALE forever. They flower RAPIDLY – you probably won’t believe how fat and dense and frosty they’ll be @ 4-5 weeks 12/12. The flower/leaf is EXTREMELY high; the tops of the colas go NUTS at about 5 weeks into flowering, sending braid-like floral cluster projections out in all directions without any leaves. Just before that happens, hundreds of SNOW WHITE pistils make the tip of the colas look like they’re wearing fur caps! The resin production is HEAVY (again, you won’t believe it), a HEAVENLY scent of tropical fruit and berries begins to fill the room @ 3 weeks of 12/12 and just keeps getting more overpowering ’til they’re done. The finished smoke is the type of high that keeps you UP; it’s very cerebral – the only body effect is the “jitters”. I certainly wouldn’t recommend it to anyone looking to “mellow out” on the sofa, BUT if you wanted to smoke before going running or cycling – PERFECT!


I smoked C-88 one eve after trying Silver Haze and the C-88 buzz cut RIGHT THROUGH the high of the Haze so badly that my wife asked me, “what did you do?… smoke too much?” The flavour is just like the scent; fruity and sweet…not at all hashy (not that there’s anything WRONG with that!…heehee.
Outdoors, Apollo 13 and Cinderella 88 will finish before October 15th at 43 degrees north lattitude.
If you liked NL#5/Haze, you’ll like C-99 too. It’s got a sweet, fruity taste and some of that “paranoia inducing” effect, very cerebral and speedy. The major advantages of C-99 over the old Haze x NL#5 from the original Seed Bank are rapid maturation and bigger yield. The highs and flavours are “different” but in the same class.
That's an interesting story. Princess's mother was a queen from royal lineage. She won cups under various names. Her mother was NL5HzC1 and she won cups and her mother was NL5 and she won a cup. The assumption that the father was a sibling to JH is wishful thinking and far from likely. One can only hope that the father was a NL5Hz, which is how the original seed version of JH was made.If I was going to do further line breeding with the C99, I'd be looking to add Haze A male and 5HzC122 (the sister of 5HzC1) to the mix. Further back crossing to princess won't take this any further.
 
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